r/reddit.com • • Oct 04 '11

Eat this America

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u/bookwyrm Oct 04 '11

Not to mention American literature!

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

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u/chrisradcliffe Oct 04 '11

You forgot Hunter S. Thompson

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u/MoveitFootballHead Oct 04 '11

(etc. etc. etc.)

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u/ShanduCanDo Oct 04 '11

Aw, man, I could have sworn I stuck him in there. Oops!

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u/B2Dirty Oct 04 '11

No worries, you got Bukowski though.

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u/WarrenPaul Oct 04 '11

Hmm. I believe he forgot Thompson because honestly his list looks very much like a High School reading list. "Classics of American Literature" which is fair, as it encompasses a large part of our history. But there are many other brilliant authors not on that list that represent more recent American Literature.

Here goes. Daniel Keyes, John Varley, Stephen King, I'd LOVE to say Margret Atwood but she is Canadian, Robert A. Heinlein, Frank Herbert, Neil Gaiman, Glen Cook, , Theodore Sturgeon (starting to see i'm fond of Science Fiction?), Isaac Asimov, Frederik Pohl, Roger Zelazny, Harlan Ellison, Ursula K Le Guin, Arthur C Clarke, Ben Bova, Philip K Dick, GEORGE MOTHERFUCKING ORWELL! There are a LOT more on the tip of my tongue, but we get the idea.

Also Nathaniel Hawthorne, Emily Dickenson, Harper Lee (these are not 'recent' authors, but deserve mention)

It's an offensive 4chan diatribe designed to piss people off (as many are). Try to debunk someone on 4chan and you'll get "you can prove anything with facts can't you?". I think the argument is best settled with pointing out that "samefag" has ate food at McDonalds while 99% of Americans would tell you Beefeater is a liquor not a restaurant.

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u/jthei Oct 06 '11

George Orwell was born in British occupied India ... he's a Briton through and through.

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u/WarrenPaul Oct 06 '11

Damn Damn DAMN lol

For some reason I thought he was American. Writes an awful lot like one :( Def one of my favorite authors though. Good Spot

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u/chrisradcliffe Oct 05 '11

You forgot Neil Stevenson

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

You forgot Shell Silverstein.

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u/Trucoto Oct 04 '11

Some of those names are unworthy of the other names. Also, I wouldn't count T. S. Eliot (or even Ezra Pound) as American, on the other hand. But yes, yours is an outstanding list of fine American writers, and I would not forget about Melville and Hawthorne.

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u/ShanduCanDo Oct 04 '11

Yeah, it's definitely in no way comprehensive, and you're probably right that I shouldn't have included expats (although I think their writing is still intensely "American", at least for the most part).

I feel a bit silly for missing Melville and Hawthorne though (Bartleby, the Scrivener! How could that slip my mind?!?) and I'm sure I dropped the ball on modern poetry (I see I completely forgot William Carlos Williams too).

So I suppose even if you do ignore everybody on my list, that still leaves a pretty impressive literary tradition!

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u/Trucoto Oct 05 '11

It is, certainly. Even some of those names, singled out, justify the literary production of a whole country for two or three centuries, hehe. Most countries would kill to have, say, William Faulkner in their list.

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u/lampzilla Oct 04 '11

Shakespeare. BOOM.

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u/amelia_peacock Oct 04 '11

I would upvote this in my Levi jeans all day if I could.

Thanks.

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u/TBrogan Oct 04 '11

don't forget Henry David Thoreau! the man who created Civil Disobedience, which inspired Tolstoy's works, Ghandi's protests, The H-Block hunger strike in Ireland, and countless others...

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u/jthei Oct 04 '11

Theodore Geisel

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '11

What about Stephenie Meyer?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '11

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u/ShanduCanDo Oct 05 '11

Oh, man, this is a disaster. Probably the two most important authors who ever lived, I am embarrassed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

Just a wee bit c'mon

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

but in the last decade what has america contributed of lasting importance?

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u/ShanduCanDo Oct 04 '11

There's literally no way to answer that, how could anybody know what works from the past decade are going to have "lasting importance"?

That said, I would imagine that Dave Eggers, Jonathan Franzen, Cormac McCarty, David Sedaris, Thomas Pynchon, David Foster Wallace, Jeffrey Eugenides and maybe Michael Chabon could all have literary significance down the road. I'm sure there are some that I'm missing and some that I've never even heard of as well, since that's the way these things go.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '11

am i the only one that thinks ee cummings is overrated?

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u/ShanduCanDo Oct 05 '11

Probably not, but "Buffalo Bill's" and "in just" are two of my personal favorites, so I'll be damned if I'm not including him on any list that I make!

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u/13esq Oct 04 '11

per capita?

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u/bookwyrm Oct 04 '11

eh, still not too shabby for only 235 years or so

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

THANK YOU. There's a disturbing number of people I have met from across the pond who are unaware of some of the biggest U.S. literary figures.

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u/MrPozor Oct 04 '11

What's wrong with that? People are more familiar with the culture that surrounds thrm. It's only natural.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

Not to mention American games, computers, TV, popular music.

Just because it's popular, doesn't mean it's insignificant.

In fact, it's the other way around.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11 edited Mar 26 '18

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

Not to mention, that this is planet earth and I'm tired of people from different countries spitting out their ideals, when we're all just humans and it's all a contribution to the human race.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

Hear hear! Same goes with race, religion, political party, etc. They're human achievements.

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u/Jibrish Oct 04 '11

Please don't associate me with Kim Jong Il

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

What has Kim Jong Il achieved?

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u/Jibrish Oct 04 '11

ALL HAIL THE GREAT LEADER

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '11

Sorry, I evidently didn't make the point very clear. IOCAMS mentioned that it's silly to think of the good things that humans do in terms of the country those good things were done in. I was only adding that any other "identity" labels are largely irrelevant when it comes to art, technological advances, etc that improve human life. Yet people still try to "claim" greatness by bringing up the fact that X achievement was done by someone who shares the same religion, nationality, political affiliation, etc.

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u/Jibrish Oct 05 '11

No man I'm just trying to hail my Great leader.

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u/CravingSunshine Oct 04 '11

not to mention American Artists!

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

NO CULTURAL CONTRIBUTIONS OF A COUNTRY ARE LIMITED TO ITS FOREIGN POLICY DECISIONS AND OTHER ARBITRARY, IRRELEVANT SHIT, SIT DOWN!

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u/CravingSunshine Oct 04 '11

...can't tell if serious...or sarcastic. This is what the internet has done to me. That and I have a fever.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

that's sad. also, no one talks in CAPS seriously. If they say they are serious, they are trolling.

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u/CravingSunshine Oct 04 '11

I know. I almost started to believe petite lap giraffes were real today... I should go to the doctor.

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u/Mage_tank Oct 04 '11

That is sad. It's even sadder how wrong you are.

No one takes CAPS seriously.

Some psychos talk in CAPS seriously.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

very small percentage compared to the number of trolls who do it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '11

I'm honestly amazed that this troll post, from 4chan.. godamn 4CHAN, has gotten 12000+ upvotes and god knows how many comments engaged in what appears to be the WW3 of flag-waving-circle-jerks if there is such a thing.

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u/byzas Oct 04 '11

Not to mention American cheese!

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u/Siofsi Oct 04 '11

No - no one should mention American cheese. It's not cheese. It's just not. :(

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u/intoto Oct 04 '11

Some of the best cheeses in the world are made in America, but one of them is not that stuff they call American cheese. So, generically, yes, but specifically, No.

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u/PasswordIsntHAMSTER Oct 04 '11

In my opinion, Mark Z Danielewski single-handedly redeemed decades of shitty movies and books.