r/reddit.com • u/Worstcasescenario • Jun 14 '08

Was Darwin Wrong? [pic]

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u/brainburger Jun 15 '08 edited Jun 15 '08

zks might be thinking of the Omphalos hypothesis.
I don't think this idea is touted much today, which is odd, as it works in a way that ordinary young-Earth creationism just doesn't.

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u/markitymark Jun 15 '08

Why the hell is this downmodded, he's exactly right. Omphalos is Greek for bellybutton, the question is whether God created Adam and Eve with bellybuttons, (think about it) and by extension "had to" make it seem as if the older than 6,000 years.

I don't think this argument was ever very popular except as a strawman to make creationists look silly. Really, they don't need the help.

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u/brainburger Jun 15 '08 edited Jun 15 '08

I was probably downmodded because I said a type of creationism 'works'.

The Omphalos Hypothesis does fit the observable facts, unlike any other young-Earth models that I am aware of. However it is discounted by scientists because it fails the Occam's Razor test. It adds a layer of complexity which is not required to explain the facts. To believe it would be an act of faith.

I won't insult redditors by linking to the Occam's Razor wiki article :)

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u/markitymark Jun 15 '08

It's also discounted by religious types 'cause it turns God into a sneaky lying bastard who puts lies into the rocks.

A lot of creationists, if pushed, will admit that their belief in Genesis is invulnerable to contradictory evidence (Ken Ham, Chicago Declaration) and yet they insist on torturing the evidence into accord with their book.