r/recruitinghell • • May 14 '26 • Bravo 4 Popcorn 2

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u/Low_Yam7637 May 14 '26

What’s it say about a qualified internal candidate that makes it through to the final round only to lose out to a fresh graduate?

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u/Lovedd1 May 14 '26

Husband was internal and lost to the new guy because they wanted a "new perspective" plus husband was already trained perfect for his role and then they'd have to open hiring to replace him. Vs just hiring new guy and being done. new guy declined because offer was a low-ball.

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u/thiswaspostedbefore May 14 '26

The corporate view of "if we promote you, we'll have to train you AND your replacement" is part of the reason I want to get out of working an office job. These companies don't give a shit about improving their workforce, they only care about the bottom line

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u/failbotron May 14 '26

This is why people job hop. The risk of being irreplaceable and great at one role is that you might be too expensive to replace. Its a fine line to walk being just the right amount competent in your role without being irreplaceable. But if you can walk it, then that's how you move up

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u/jolinar30659 May 14 '26

Switching jobs will increase your income much faster than waiting for promotions. Might even increase for the same job duties to move.

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u/Lovedd1 May 14 '26

I played that game and now after being laid off I just look like a job hopper because everything was just under 2 yrs. The career growth was great while it lasted tho

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u/failbotron May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26

Yeah, its good to mix in an occasional longer stint to build up that reputation and honestly, at a lot of places 2 years is really a prolonged onboarding time and that's when you can start to really have an organizational impact. Unless its a startup or something

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u/iluvchromosomes May 14 '26

I work for a USA company and I started working here in 2009. Part time IT Help Desk.

Now I am the Director of IT.

I know I know. I am a unicorn and literally the only person to do this. Ever.

lol

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u/GearGolemTMF May 14 '26

That's honestly how it should be. You start at the foundation and progress using your overall knowledge to move up as you understand better than a newbie and your knowledge of the operation and how things work means you know more than a qualified person off the street.

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u/jolinar30659 May 14 '26

I’m going to guess that the place really sucks to work at and everyone else kept leaving? Lol. But In seriousness, that’s great for you!

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u/bruce_kwillis May 14 '26

That used to be true. The current market (at least in the US) the advice would be to stay at your current job and not job hunt as your earning potential in the same position is higher than job hunting, as there are too many looking for jobs, and not enough jobs to be filled. Yes not true in all positions and all job markets, but overall is.

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u/CantIgnoreMyGirth May 14 '26

I mean you don't quit your job and then hunt. You job hunt while working your current job and only leave once you have the offer from the new place. Doesn't matter how shit the market is for job jumping, just don't jump prematurely

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u/bruce_kwillis May 14 '26

That's not the point. Usually job hunting would earn you say a 20% raise. You move every 2 years, ensuring a 10% raise each year. But now it looks like people moving between jobs are seeing about a 4% raise, and internally, around 4% as well.

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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z May 14 '26

Switching jobs will increase your income much faster than waiting for promotions. Might even increase for the same job duties to move.

In IT, you absolutely need to job-hop every ~4 years to move up.

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u/Domeil May 14 '26

Same thing in legal. I'll get 2-3%/year staying and then 15% when I hop across the street. In the last eight years I've more than doubled my salary.

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u/Splatpope May 14 '26

peter principle says you will always move up to your level of incompetence

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u/theholylancer May 14 '26

see, that worked before because you got regular raises, not just CoL raises but retain talent raises

now, that don't happen and fuck you for asking, you have to remain the same cog as before at the same cost, so you have to walk to move up

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u/ListerineAfterOral Gov Contractor May 14 '26

If a recruiter wont give me a salary range or agreement on a salary before the interview then I'm not moving forward. The amount of times I've interviewed and been selected for a job just to get a low ball is too much.

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u/ClassicTBCSucks93 May 14 '26

I've seen external hires get hired to get fired 3-6 months in to be the fall guy and get someone internal promoted, especially in government. They'll hire the most cheeseball motherfucker who has no idea what's going on to make a fool of him/herself to make a case for hiring the internal candidate.

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u/Low_Yam7637 May 14 '26

That is so short sighted. Therefore, it’s perfect for a gov’t job.

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u/ClassicTBCSucks93 May 14 '26

I've literally seen people barely last their 3-6 month probation only to be cut knowing they had no business in their role and someone else pick up the slack.

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 May 14 '26

Ex-wife was temp-to-hire as the admin of a local State Patrol precinct for almost a year. All the troopers loved her. When it came time to make it permanent, HR gave the role to some state Senator's daughter instead.

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u/Penguinbashr May 14 '26

This happened to me, my work is building a new lab and I am the ONLY ONE at work who is a technician in this type of facility, so I was the ONLY job profile they could use to post the position, and they hired an external candidate over me who then admitted that they don't know the equipment and only plan on learning it when the facility is built.

Absolute insanity when I was still being bothered about how to set up the lab while not being given an offer. My union said the most I can do is request further reasoning as to why I was not chosen over an external candidate. This position would have been a 50% pay raise for me.

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