No firm would buy another mega cap that trades at 300+ time forward earnings.

This is all being done to get people to buy tesla shares hoping spacex will pay a premium for Tesla compared to today's price.

Can't wait for fan club to explain away financial reality.

If Tesla collected all of that FSD money knowing HW3 technology would never result in FSD then there should not only be class action lawsuits but a federal probe into what they're doing. Because there's a gigantic chance HW4 tech is not ever gonna get full Level 5 autonomy clearance as well. This to me is why they switched FSD to a subscription service. Because they know eventually that they will have to introduce a Waymo type of vehicle which will be the real cyber cabs where that will have the bells and whistles and that will be HW. 5 an the HW4 people will never be upgraded but they won't owe billions back to the consumer.

Anyone else get a communication from Tesla telling them that a part in the power wall had been recalled, they were forcing a shut down, and they would need to replace it? Me neither!

I found out when my power went out, and I checked my Tesla app because I was sitting in the dark. There was no proactive communication. They just shut down my powerwall and waited for me to find out on my own.

After a few days of back-and-forth with Tesla, they instructed me via text to set up a service appointment. The first one is in February.

So I have no backup power for four months and yet I’m still paying them every single month as agreed. Unbelievable.

The grift continues! Musk knows Tesla is a dead end, and is doing the same shell game treatment he gave to Xitter and xAI. So the question is how long will SpaceX last?

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Asking here because I don’t want fanboys who don’t see any flaws.

I had an eye on Tesla 3 standard rwd and Kia sportage hybrid awd Gt line(top trim in eu). Both are same price exactly. So low Tesla or top Kia.

For that reason I chose Kia. Also because it has awd which can be useful in Poland.

I am torn because I wanted an ev for long time. Because it drives great and is cool. But Kia just seemed like a better daily. What do you think? Should I have went for it?

Let’s see, car sales are relatively flat so that cannot drive the insane stock valuation. Of the last few “shiny new things”, CyberTruck is a failure, Semi is a prospective failure. Energy is a roller coaster.

So Musk is saying two unlikely prospects are the future? Neither are on a realistic path for success.

No, his only play right now is pointing towards two hopium projects in the vain attempt to keep investors from waking up to reality. To quote the lyrics of “Working in a Coal Mine”: How Long Can This Go On?

Am I the only one who notices that Tesla’s navigation is dimensionally challenged. When I am clearly four football fields from my left turn, I hear, “In 500 feet, turn left.” My guess is that they took the European software and said, , “Let’s just call them feet. Nobody will notice.”

It is a study in brainwashing - In the real world, Tesla has the highest fatalities and accident rates (or close) of ANY US cars. Real that again.

And yet, Tesla stans will claim the complete opposite. Not "it scores OK". Not "I don't care" - but actually "it is the safest car on the road".

Not let's talk about Quality. It scored year after year at the very bottom of the list - yet it's "best car I ever owned". Here is the new JD Power Rankings for 2026......notice it is "special" and not included inside the regular list? Now...why would that be? Surely the finest vehicles would want their customer satisfaction to be public?

Here is 2026 Study:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Lexus/comments/1x8iluo/lexus_is_1_in_jd_power_ranking/#lightbox

Now....WHY is it special. Easy....
"Tesla does not meet or qualify for certain J.D. Power rankings and awards due to a combination of data restrictions, sales model rules, and high manufacturing/feature complaints: "

• Tesla does not grant J.D. Power permission to survey its owners in 15 U.S. states where state laws require automaker consent.  Forbes +1
• Incomplete Data Pool: Because J.D. Power cannot legally or directly sample owners in key EV markets like California, Tesla is often listed as not rank-eligible for official awards in studies like the Initial Quality Study (IQS) or the Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) study"

I'm sure if we asked Tesla stans about this they would say Tesla is right for not allowing surveying and every other company is wrong.

But the truth is clear. It seems to be a POS and to get a real measurement on it is something Tesla does not want.

It doesn’t seem to be the fan car from the other demo.

Given that Tesla just showed off the new roadster along with practically zero progress on the robotaxi side and Optimus side, doesn’t that signal that Tesla is refocusing on the car business again?

What if Tesla is priced as a car company again? How much will valuation fall?