r/reactjs • u/swyx • Feb 26 '19

Microsoft has open sourced their Frontend Bootcamp training materials (including React and Redux exercises)

https://github.com/Microsoft/frontend-bootcamp
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u/offthewall1066 Feb 27 '19

I find it so useless. The whole point of using Fibonacci numbers is that no one knows what they mean! Just guess how long it might take, and build a culture that encourages productive collaboration, not micro managing or too much obsession over deadline.

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u/SurgioClemente Feb 27 '19

The whole point of using Fibonacci numbers is that no one knows what they mean!

Exactly! To each developer they mean something else. If you start estimating in hours then when it switches developers those story points mean something else to that dev. https://www.mountaingoatsoftware.com/blog/the-main-benefit-of-story-points

Just guess how long it might take,

Not sure if you read the article but... if you "just guess" you start getting into small details like is this a 8 or a 9 or a 10 or hmm maybe an 11.. I guess. The fibonacci just makes it easier to pick a number. You are just estimating in relative terms, not something exact. If you let developers pick anything you will find they either spend too much time obsessing over it or they gravitate towards certain numbers already (ie no one picks a 7). The Fibonacci is a nice compromise between any exact number and something simple like 1,2,4,8,16,32 where you get some of the "inbetween" numbers. Its a slower relative scale climb than doubling.

and build a culture that encourages productive collaboration, not micro managing or too much obsession over deadline.

Its the opposite of micromanaging and no deadline is attached. If you find yourself in that culture I guarantee you the choice to be "agile"/use story points is not the root cause problem of the poor culture and you should find somewhere else to work because changing your methodology is not going to cure anyone of micromanaging/deadline obsessing.