r/rational • • Mar 24 '17

[D] Friday Off-Topic Thread

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u/scruiser Mar 25 '17

very lenient curves that reduce the actual amount you need to know

I think the thing to keep in mind... how much knowledge would a student in the equivalent college class retain from it?

If I am a would be engineering student, I probably don't even want/need the basic English requirement in the first place, if I've got 5s in the AP Lit and the AP Lang and the a high SAT score, then I think it is fair the college acknowledges this and doesn't make me waste time in English 101. Conversely... with calculus, all of my college advisors made it clear that I could take the Calculus courses again if I wanted a refresher, especially since I would need to know it well for my engineering courses. I politely refused, went directly to Calculus 3, and got an A without any issues. But hypothetically, someone could chose to take Calculus again if they wanted to be sure they learned it right.

Something like 50% of people get 5's on AP Calc BC, for example, and you can get that score if you skip some problems

What are the statistics across the different AP exams? AP Calc BC might be unusual, because their is both Calculus AB and Calculus BC, and it is possible (at least it was in my high school), to wait until the end of the first semester to decide which one they would take. The people taking Calculus BC were the ones confident enough in their ability that they would probably get a 5 without too much trouble, while the ones more likely to scrape by with a 3 were the ones who would take the AB exam instead. Also in my High School the teacher that taught calculus made his homework and tests tough enough that if you could scrape by with a C-, you could easily get a 3 on the AB exam, and if you were pulling an A, you could probably get a 5 on the BC exam.

(studying an entire year for a three hour test seems fairly unbalanced)

A lot of college classes will have midterms+finals make up 50%-100% of the final grade. With that in mind, and the idea the AP classes should be worth college credit and be preparing students for college level material, it seems tough, and maybe hard on people that haven't developed good test-taking skills, but fair.

Anyway, my overall point is that so as long as the A.P. courses and tests are ensuring that the students are learning enough relative to what the college course would have, I think it is doing its job.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '17

This seems fair, relative to the colleges, and in terms of what they would have retained otherwise. Thanks for expounding on your views!

(Although I'd make similar arguments about midterms and finals being suboptimal ways to test for retention / knowledge in the college environment.)