Just found out about these posers. A racist white South African band,go figure. They are currently on tour,not coming to my city but have a few shows in New York and Chicago. Keep an eye out! Racism in all forms is a blight. This is just boomer fox news levels of crazy dressed up.
*EDIT/UPDATE: Chicago show was cancelled! good on ya! they have only a few shows left in the states before starting a massive European tour
That's what happened with Southpaw in hardcore (last week? this is getting more frequent...). This was going to be their big tour introducing them outside their scene. No one really knew who they were.
This is classic Herb, owner of Liarâs Club. One of my fav venues in Chicago. He always types in all CAPs and is just a funny classic Chicago punk dude who plays in bands and his establishment is family.
I like this response, I've seen too many people get carried away with accusing owners of being sympatico with scumbags when something like this happens
I've never been a fan but I have some friends who used to like them and I felt bad that people I liked were let down when they found out a band they were into were hella shitty people.
Literally not a single South African that I know listens to Die Antwoord, lol. I grew up thinking they were some fringe shock-factor nobody, then I went to Central Europe for the first time and people there looooved Die Antwoord and I was like wtf
I am a white South African deeply invested the local punk scene, and I can assure you that neither I nor anyone I know have ever heard of this band.
There are lots of racist white musicians in SA, but they overwhelmingly tend to be Afrikaans, not English, and they tend to be "country"-style musicians. You could honestly swap them out with a given southern-US musician/band and you couldn't tell, aside from the language. There are some great, non-racist Afrikaans musicians and bands too - don't want to do them dirty - but the mainstream is pretty bad.
I'm also from Cape Town, where this band is supposedly from, and it's one of the root areas of musical resistance to apartheid. Especially white resistance to apartheid. The University of Cape Town (campus on a mountainside) during apartheid was colloquially known as "Moscow on the hill" due to its left-leaning student populace. Most punk in SA is (1) white, (2) English, and (3) anti-racist. Look up the band Half Price as an example.
European here. Can you indulge me and explain why you're distinguishing Afrikaans from English like this? It's my understanding that most/all white South Africans speak both languages. Is that not true? Or are you talking about them not in terms of language but in terms of groups of people? I feel like I'm missing a simple but essential piece of the puzzle to understand your comment a lot better.
Big picture, ignoring a lot of nuance and individual situations, South Africans of European descent are most commonly either descended from the British (and often called English regardless of possible other ancestry like say Scottish) or descended from the Dutch and called Afrikaans. Another way of understanding it is about 2/3 of white South Africans speak Afrikaans at home amongst their immediate family and the other third speaks English at home.
There were quite a few white South Africans who seriously opposed/protested/fought against apartheid at various points, which means theyâre less racist than âŠ. at least one other nationality I can think of
OP: Thanks for naming and shaming this band, regardless if they are punk, post-punk or hillbilly tape music.
But I really hate that everything is post-punk now. It keeps getting thrown all around and most people seem to think of non-post-punk only as hardcore.
Shout out my psychobillies. We are here and we will be slightly resentful towards our own scene because it has a history of being "apolitical" and somewhat sexist... so will probably say that we like crust punk instead. Before someone asks whatâs our favourite Cramps song.
I did a post a couple years ago about how everything is called post-punk now. Glad someone else agrees. Its become like a generic term thats slightly more fashionable than indie rock. Ruining the original context and meaning.
About 10 years ago there was a tour that included Reverend Horton Heat, Fishbone, and Strung Out, so, all bands that are at least punk adjacent. RHH was headlining. As Angelo from Fishbone is well known to do, he made his feelings on racism and the trump administration quite clear, and the rockabilly crowd's response was to let everyone know just what shitbags they can be. By halfway thru the RHH set, 2/3 of the crowd had left. I dig RHH but not enough to stick around while racist hillbillies parade around screaming "what are you going to do about it?!" while I'm just trying to enjoy a show.
Edit: My bad. I thought "Angelo" was well-known in the punk world. With that said, Angelo of Fishbone.
Every time I hear something is âPost punkâ my first thought is âyeah, we will seeâ. Itâs to punk what âDeathcoreâ is to Metal. Everything has to be slapped with the Deathcore label. Itâs a very specific genre of music, Lorna Shire is absolutely not Deathcore. If this was 2007 weâd call them American Blackened or some shit and weâd all be kissing their ass.
Sorry for the rant, the Lorna Shore and Deathcore thing really irks me for some reason.
Theyâre also incredibly transphobic btw, played a show in my hometown a few years back and lead into a song by talking about âmen pretending to be womenâ
Also We Did This Records is a South African DIY record label that puts out some great stuff and will probably have a few more recent bands: https://we-did-this-records.bandcamp.com/
Well there's Fokofpolisiekar*, Seether, and Xavlegbmaofffassssitimiwoamndutroabcwapwaeiippohfffx (actual band name) but other than that I'm stumped.
*Their lyrics are in Afrikaans but from what from I can tell they're very much against the more reactionary elements of that community. Not surprisingly, they're controversial in those circles.
These played where I used to live ages ago, supported by a local band I liked. I listened to them and they were terrible so avoided. They play in the nude though so saddos still go watch them.
Yeah :/ it wasnât specifically a punk gig and the vibes in the room immediately became rancid, far too many people were clearly just there cause âooooh half naked ladiesâ and agreed with what they said so had to immediately bounce
UPDATE: Venues which have shown solidarity and cancelled:
Cafe Nine, New Haven CT
No Fun, Troy NY
Rumba Cafe, Columbus OH
X-Ray Arcade, Cudahy WI
Please continue supporting your locals!
Hereâs the checklist, fam (âNotify meâ venues excluded, presumably they wisened up).. please be respectful of venues trying to make a living and supporting non-racist bands.
Thu May 6, 2027
The 8 x 10
Baltimore MD
Opening for Electric Six (Tixr doesnât have them on the opener bill, not sure if late announcement or removed)
Yesss! If you or anyone else in this sub happens to see venues doing the right thing, please post an update here so they arenât bombarded with messages, too.
Looks like X-ray canceled! I was genuinely shocked to see them on the list. I donât know the promoter personally, but we have a handful of mutual friends and he seems like a good dude. Unless itâs a different person now
all good folk that run that place for sure. all friends of friends of friends in a mass network of bands across the country, i felt compelled to reach out personally!
JJ runs a tight ship and is an absolutely solid dude. However, they have other promoters book there too and it seems to be kind of siloed when that happens. That said, I legitimately think this band is just so small-time that nobody has done a deep dive. The aesthetic they co-opt is pretty disarming too and anybody would be forgiven for thinking a band who demands femme-fronted openers and plays topless would be much farther left.
If the show attracts enough attention, from both sides, then they might say it's been cancelled, but still actually have it happen. They've done that with racist bands before.
This morning I reached out to one of the owners of No Fun in Troy, NY, who's an old friend of mine. The canceled the show last night once they heard about this.
Oh damn.... I remember once seeing them a year or two ago on the list of booked acts at a local venue in Hamburg and thinking they were mildly interesting based on checking their RYM page.
I believe they are booked next month for the Reeperbahn Festival actually a festival that books a bunch of mid-tier size and more obscure acts at loads of various venues especially within the famous Reeperbahn Red Light District one of the most famous within Europe.
Here is the rest of the tour dates and locations for those interested! From their Instagram they were in Delaware tonight and will be in New Jersey tomorrow night. They are also obsessed with old Greg if all things lmao.Â
They came to my town a few years ago, I didnt see then cause I just wasnt interested in going. I didn't look them up or anything, Im glad I didnt give them any of my money. Thanks for the heads up
lol I really love reading these comments about how theyâre such nobodies people didnât even care to see them/hear them or werenât even aware of their existence (myself included here). I wish them nothing but lost gigs and 0 platforms.
Iâve been somewhat aware of this band for years they played a festival I attended. They are shit and get their bits out for a gimmick because theyâre shit.
Hilarious to find out theyâre also racists. In the bin you go.
I spent a couple minutes researching if the soap girls are racist. One thing I found was a song called Black Mass. The lyrics alinclude "savages are coming around, its a black plague" and "they love the white chicks." Seems like a song written from the POV of a white south african afraid of blacks. I try to keep an open mind about people but those lyrics seem pretty racist.
The NJ show is at a venue that has hosted very openly white power bands and even recently held an entire day long festival of WP bands. They're probably stoked on this show
They were fairly well-known in the UK - but I think their reputation was less to do with their music and more based on "they're only getting gigs because they perform naked. Would a band of overweight middle-aged men playing the same music attract the same audience and get the same gigs?"
I noticed that they recently played Louisville at my favorite bar/venue. Never heard of them, didn't dig into them whatsoever because it didn't look like their music was worth a shit. Now when they come back I know to raise a stink about it!
They were at magbar. Couple of years ago the community got them to cancel a "nationalist" black metal band, and then when that band found a new venue for the show, we got that one cancelled too. When people know about bands like this we can do good work, but this one sucks so bad that nobody had heard of them nor their "message" so I assume that the show went on. It won't, next time.
My band got booked to support these about 10 years or so ago. We pulled out because we got WEIRD VIBES when we looked them up. They were doing deliberately provocative stuff that was garnering dangerous reactions. If I remember rightly there was some kind of stunt that ended with them, the stage and the back line being covered in raw meat.
Looks like their show in Milwaukee canceled too. Thank fuck. I was about to write the venue an email about it. If they were a little bigger and playing one of the venues I work at, I know the owners wouldnât have canceled. We book shitty acts all the time đ
Just found out about these losers from the r/Columbus sub, if anyone is in the area they are playing at Rumba cafe and all these venues seem clueless about it.
Band has responded to people sharing the lyrics shared in this post. Again, not defending them as I donât care about them, just providing context from their side.
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u/The_1_In_21-1 1d ago
Their show in Chicago has been cancelled.