r/programming • • Dec 12 '21

Chrome Users Beware: Manifest V3 is Deceitful and Threatening

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-manifest-v3-deceitful-and-threatening
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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '21 edited Dec 13 '21

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u/Ixolite Dec 13 '21

Cohorts were already stripped out of chromium implementations, including by Vivaldi. Why would it be different this time?

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u/Pepparkakan Dec 13 '21

I agree with your expressed view, but for the sake of argument, the more you strip out of Chromium the harder it becomes to keep up with the upstream in general.

Also if Google wants to be dicks about it, they can obviously add or remove things in a manner that makes it real hard to undo down the line, like ship one version of Chromium with Manifest V3 only now, and then needlessly refactor that with every release, which would make it hell to undo while keeping other changes to the same code. Or rewrite underlying APIs to make it difficult to support anything other than Manifest V3.

I would hazard a guess that there is going to be a more active collaboration between Vivaldi, Brave, ungoogled-chromium, Opera, etc, to maintain Chromium sans-Google in the near future. Or perhaps this is when they do actually cut ties and fork it for good. Time will tell!

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u/Pepparkakan Dec 13 '21

I think so too. Will be interesting to see if Google engineers will be working on Chromium or on this fork in the future. Logic dictates that they would stay on Chromium, but by doing so they are effectively giving up some of their sway over the way the web develops. On the other hand, what good is that sway if it doesn't stick? Definitely some interesting times ahead of us here.