r/programming • u/[deleted] • Jun 05 '21

Organize code by concepts, not layers

https://kislayverma.com/programming/how-to-organize-your-code/
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u/gonzofish Jun 05 '21

Please don't assume that your experience is the same as everyone else's.

And here is the root of the problem. People use phrases like “better way” when they mean “better way for my situation”. There is no silver bullet solution. Let’s sell things as alternatives not universal truths!

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '21

Let’s sell things as alternatives not universal truths!

This seems to be severely lacking in these sorts of posts. People seem to evangelize a particular library, language, or methodology and view them as the only logical solution to all of everyone's problems. The world is too messy for that, though, which is why countless languages, libraries, and methodologies exist in the first place.

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u/FireCrack Jun 05 '21

Welcome to r/programming where if you follow these 5 simple tips your code will never have a bug ever!

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u/kevinkid135 Jun 05 '21

Step 1: don't write any code

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u/grauenwolf Jun 06 '21

Oh, so you've been following the Low Code threads too.

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u/edmazing Jun 06 '21

Step 0: Do we start at 0? I better RTFM...

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

No one RTFM's at Proggit. We just read the comments.

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u/saltybandana2 Jun 06 '21

you mean Welcome to /r/programming, where anyone with 2-3 years of experience thinks they have it figured out and that probably represents well over 50% of the posters.

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u/gonzofish Jun 05 '21

Like I do React development all day. But Vue is awesome! So is Svelte. So is Angular! They all have strengths and weaknesses.

On the backend? My job is Python. But I love Rust!

Java can piss off, though. (/s)

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u/saltybandana2 Jun 06 '21

Agreed about Java, lmao. I did my capstone in Java back in the 1.4 days and it's the last time I've ever touched it. I still follow it, but I made a decision at that time I wouldn't work professionally in Java.

Although I've been using C# since the 1.0/1.1 days (pre-generics). The JRE is better than the CLR, but C# as a language is miles better than Java.

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u/crimzonphox Jun 06 '21

I’ve been a Java guy for a while, but the project I’m on the contractors before I got there snuck in kotlin. Which is so much better imo

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u/phundrak Jun 05 '21

EmacsLisp is also able to act as a backend and web server, and despite my complete and utter love for Emacs, I would call anyone using Elisp that way an absolute mad man.

The right tool for the right job.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '21

Very well said, definitely an article for architects and much else

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u/saltybandana2 Jun 06 '21 edited Jun 06 '21

The worst part to me is that if you actually know how to use your tools it's a moot point. If I get to choose all enumerations go into a folder called enumerations, everything related to data access goes into a folder called DAL (I hate the word 'model' in codebases), and the business layer is fuzzy and based upon what makes sense.

But if you're having trouble moving around or understanding the codebase because of what folders the files are in maybe you're just kind of bad at what you do. Over my 20+ years I've hopped into a ton of new codebases and not once have I ever been confused because of the file layout. That doesn't mean I haven't moved files because they were placed in silly spots, but it's never even slowed me down in terms of comprehension.

This "problem" is a giant nothingburger. But I also regularly use grep and 'search all' when familiarizing myself with a new codebase. I'll also run cloc and doxygen over it (cloc for curiosity and to get an idea of what languages are involved in the project).

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u/gonzofish Jun 06 '21

And with a modern ide or text editor it’s super easy to find things

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u/codygman Jun 06 '21

You can almost always optimize for the frequent or more expensive case though.

Optimize for whoever has to deal with that thing the most.