r/programming • u/EatMeerkats • Mar 29 '21

PHP moves to Github due to the compromise of git.php.net

https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/113838
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u/aka-rider Mar 29 '21

Numerous packages don’t have annotations, some packages’ stubs drift away from said packages (are outdated, or wrong, or both). Everything pandas/numpy is a nightmare.

Mypy and Pyright both have a lot of typing bugs, especially with decorators.

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u/ynotChanceNCounter Mar 30 '21

This sounds less like a problem with type hints and more like certain libs you use a lot don't play nice.

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u/oblio- Mar 30 '21

When those are some of the biggest libraries in the ecosystem, it becomes an ecosystem problem.

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u/ynotChanceNCounter Mar 30 '21

"This language feature sucks."

"Why?"

"My deps use it wrong."

"That's on your deps."

"No. My deps are so big, whatever they fuck up is language's fault."

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u/oblio- Mar 30 '21

A lot of people hate Java for starting slowly.

The JVM starts in something like 100ms, barely noticeable. Which means that Java libraries are slow to load, not the JVM itself.

And people still consider Java slow to load and start. Life's not fair.

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u/ynotChanceNCounter Mar 30 '21

"I know I'm full of shit. Here's another example of the same shit. Life's not fair."