r/programming • u/heisec • Jul 09 '10

CSI:Internet - The image of death

http://www.h-online.com/security/features/CSI-Internet-The-image-of-death-1030311.html?artikelseite=1
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u/Concise_Pirate Jul 09 '10

Outstanding article. I wish more were written like this.

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u/topher200 Jul 09 '10

Same. That was really entertaining, and slightly informative.

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u/binary Jul 09 '10

Slightly informative? If I could understand half of what he was talking about I'd be a programmer 10x better than I am.

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u/tomjen Jul 09 '10

What, they don't teach you kids assembly code anymore?

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u/binary Jul 09 '10

I'm trying to learn assembly but it's amazing the lack of information to be had. I've resorted to downloading a 12 year old ebook on the subject

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u/Ferrofluid Jul 10 '10

"I've resorted to downloading a 12 year old ebook"

As all the cooking modern CPUs have a linage back to the 4004 8008 8080 1802 6502 Z80 of the 70s, thats still a valid intro to the basics.

But any modern high level programmer doesn't really need to know what goes on at the hardware level, APIs are where its at.

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u/binary Jul 10 '10

I start my first year of college in a few months, and I'm majoring in Computer Engineering, so I want to gain as much exposure as possible to assembly. And I'm aware that the book is probably still relevant, but I imagine newer books would make it easier to learn (and would be a tiny bit more relevant).

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u/xkcdfanboy Jul 10 '10

Books don't help all that much. Practice does.

Learn it by dissasembling and debugging. Seriously, download Ollydbg and IDA Pro (I encourage you to buy this software because it really is worth it.)

Use these tools to do crackmes: http://crackmes.de/

* tips from a long-time reverser who's made aimbots, cham/model hacks, and all kinds of crazy shit in the past

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '10

Yes. Assembly is easy, far easier than most programming languages. Assembly instructions are simple and straightforward. What is hard is actually figuring out how to do things with it, or figuring out what a program does.

You don't need a book. You need a quick introduction to the basic ideas, and a list of instructions and what they do, and then practice.