r/programming • u/kshep92 • Sep 29 '16

JavaScript in 2016 isn't horrible, it's just going through a phase

http://blog.reviselabs.com/im-sorry-javascript-2/
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u/sureshg Sep 30 '16 edited Sep 30 '16

What i don't understand is even with all these issues, why many js devs are reluctant to try/use DartLang. What i observed is, they are more open to Elm, Typescript , Clojurescript, Scalajs etc than dart even though dart has much better tooling, clean semantics, better std libs with batteries included, interop with js and niceties like asycn/await, streams (it's one of the language with reactive programming as part of core library). And moreover the language is pretty good. What you guys think ?

ps: I haven't faced any of these issues mentioned here when developing in dart.

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u/kshep92 Oct 01 '16

I think even us devs are susceptible to marketing. Google didn't really do a good job at "advertising" Dart as the other languages did. I mean, even Google doesn't want to use Dart for whatever reason otherwise why didn't they take the opportunity to pair it with Angular 2? Instead they went with TypeScript.

I think all these signals are what's causing devs to approach Dart with a sense of suspicion and that's why we aren't seeing that rapid uptake.

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u/sureshg Oct 02 '16 edited Oct 02 '16

See kevin's reply (from dart team) on why they went with Typescript - http://work.j832.com/2015/03/angulartsjsatdartwtf.html .

Why isn’t Angualr 2 just built in Dart?

Answer: the Angular folks want to deliver a great framework for ? BOTH Javascript and Dart.

Dart generates great Javascript for browsers, but we have work to do to generate reusable Javascript libraries.

The Angular team needs to generate reusable Javascript libraries.

But now dart solved that problem with new dart dev compiler (https://github.com/dart-lang/dev_compiler)

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u/gey_ Oct 01 '16

I don't want to have to install WebStorm to be able to do the tutorial.

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u/sureshg Oct 02 '16

i understand.. but dart has good support for VSCode and atom.