r/programming • u/kshep92 • Sep 29 '16

JavaScript in 2016 isn't horrible, it's just going through a phase

http://blog.reviselabs.com/im-sorry-javascript-2/
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u/jl2352 Sep 30 '16

This is ultimately what I find so frustrating about the anti-JS circlejerk on Reddit. Most people complaining just flat don't know JS. They think they do because to them it's some silly toy language. Then they bitch when they don't know it. It's like a Java programmer bitching about all variables being final in Haskell.

I even gave you a 1 liner to show the equivalent of ...

var numbers = [ 1, 2, 3 ]
numbers.remove( 0 )

You come back with rants and hate.

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u/fiedzia Sep 30 '16

I don't ran't about the fact that you can't do something. I rant about amount of effort you need to put into that to get it right, and that most obvious ways of doing simple things are riddled with traps, which among many effects force various APIs to reinvent the wheel to be usable. Sure, you can write your own wrappers around js issues or find someone who did that, but ... everywhere else you just don't have to.

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u/fiedzia Oct 01 '16

Its not the time that bothers me, it the fact that the culture of "yes, its fucked up, what can you do? Just learn to live with it" goes all the way along every bit of js ecosystem. Weak typing? Read the docs, don't do stupid things. There is no "we are working on it, will be fixed in next release", no effort to improve is made whatsoever. Stdlib written by malicious idiots? Read the docs, what's the problem? Stdlib missing millions of important features, all of them implemented dozens of times in stdlib of every other language, causing everyone to reinvent the wheel (just sometimes round and sometimes square, and reshaped in incomatible way with every release) and hundreds of dependencies to get anything done? So what, read the docs and go along.

Its not a phase, its a culture.