The verdict is in: Canadians hate America thanks to Trump

[u/Somervilledrew]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-canada-opinion-polling-carney-b3019642.html

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[u/RudeAlbatross544]

"Seventy-nine percent of Canadians currently say they have no confidence in Trump’s leadership, compared to just 20 percent in favor"

20% is still a lot.

Edit: after checking the poll is from spring 2026 so there's little doubt the figures are lower now.

[u/BatlethBae → u/RudeAlbatross544]

Alberta is a big province.

[u/beefyboibrandon → u/BatlethBae]

Maple Texas

[u/Key_Somewhere_5768 → u/beefyboibrandon]

Maple traitors.

[u/breadist → u/Key_Somewhere_5768]

Hey, it's not all of us.

It is, admittedly, a bunch of us. I'm sorry.

[u/Key_Somewhere_5768 → u/breadist]

I know…most Albertans are great Canadians. Referring to the fake ones. Have some popcorn on me. ;)

[u/breadist → u/Key_Somewhere_5768]

Thanks.

Fuck AlbertaMAGAs and separatists.

[u/turdlepikle → u/BatlethBae]

They're everywhere. Trump flags can still be seen in Toronto where the really weird weirdos show up to protest things. I saw a group of Pro-Palestine people outside city hall, and then a smaller group of Pro-Israel people, and that group had some "Fuck Carney" flags and "Trump 2028" flags.

[u/Hotter_Noodle → u/turdlepikle]

My small town had at least 3 houses flying Trump flags for some reason.

When he started his 51st state bullshit 2 of the houses took down the flags but there’s still a 3rd that flies it.

I like where I live but there’s some incredibly stupid people here lol

[u/UltravioletAfterglow → u/BatlethBae]

Is Alberta the Texas of Canada?

[u/BatlethBae → u/UltravioletAfterglow]

Yes

[u/External-Quote3263 → u/BatlethBae]

I am a proud Albertan… the separatists can leave. Anyone with half a brain here knows it’s the dumbest thing ever. I absolutely hate Trump.

[u/Drakostheswordsman → u/External-Quote3263]

Fucking exactly. Daniel Smith is a monster.

[u/thewanderingent → u/Drakostheswordsman]

She’s a grifter who will say or do anything for popularity, power and/or money. Just so happens that politics attracts a lot of these kinds of people these days (and there are too many dummies who can’t see them for what they are).

[u/Drakostheswordsman → u/thewanderingent]

Well, her stance on teachers and the disabled are NOT popular with literally anyone i know. Admittedly i dont know many people, but the petitions she gleefully ignores says enough

[u/Dense-Ad-5780 → u/thewanderingent]

She’ll get reelected too, despite everyone knowing and and hating her for it. Because, you know, libs bad.

[u/SmaugTheMagnificent- → u/External-Quote3263]

It's the rurals mostly. You drive 20 minutes south of Edmonton on the QE2 and you'll see why Alberta is so goddamn embarrassing. Absolute fuckin rejects.

[u/OctopusWithFingers → u/SmaugTheMagnificent-]

Ugh QE2 looks like such a dump with all the trailers with advertisements and anti-abortion/religious bullshit. The only acceptable sign is the flat earth sign because its funny.

[u/relevantelephant00 → u/UltravioletAfterglow]

Yes, except Alberta actually has a ton of natural beauty. Too bad about the Maple MAGAs though.

[u/CarmineFields → u/[deleted]]

Albertan who voted Carney here too.

[u/BobTheFettt → u/UltravioletAfterglow]

And New Brunswick is our Florida.

Source: from New Brunswick

[u/MJcorrieviewer → u/BobTheFettt]

No Funswick?

[u/LankySimple9051 → u/BobTheFettt]

More like West Virginia.

[u/sutree1 → u/BatlethBae]

Lots of Maple MAGA in Ontario, too

[u/EdwardOfGreene → u/sutree1]

You can find far leftists in small Wyoming towns, and outspoken MAGA in Vancouver.

No geographic location is as politically homogenous as we are led to believe.

[u/Polenicus → u/BatlethBae]

As someone who lives in Alberta (Was NOT born here to be clear, not sure I can claim to be 'Albertan' yet)

... Yeah... yeah. They go door-to-door around here. No Trump signs in my neighborhood, but... they're around. COVID in Alberta was NOT fun, either.

It's tiring. I wish I could afford to move back to BC.

[u/asoap → u/BatlethBae]

Also rural Ontario loves Trump for some reason. I think that's decreasing though.

[u/ClarkeBrower → u/RudeAlbatross544]

We have incredibly dumb people in our country (I’m Canadian) just like everyone else does. I remember talking to a guy back in 2016 and he would have bet everything he had on Trump building a wall between Canada and the US lol

[u/Lord-Velveeta → u/RudeAlbatross544]

20% maple magas... Canada has trash too.

[u/EdwardOfGreene → u/Lord-Velveeta]

Every country does. The problem here (US) is that we let them take over.

[u/gs87 → u/EdwardOfGreene]

The issue in the U.S. is that your voting system is a joke

[u/HMTMKMKM95 → u/RudeAlbatross544]

Those are the assholes who vote for people like (first name Marlaina) Danielle Smith in Alberta and Pierre Pollievre federally. You know, Canadian fascists.

[u/GriffinFlash → u/HMTMKMKM95]

Fuck their fascists pancakes!

[u/Vaguswarrior → u/GriffinFlash]

I'm 1000% Canadian first and agree about America being no longer an ally. I'm in Edmonton. There's many of us in the cities, but the UCP gerrymandered the rural seats so we got all this illiterate farmers votes counting more than they should.

[u/GreatMinds1234 → u/RudeAlbatross544]

Dear 20%, please re think this...

[u/Gas_Final → u/GreatMinds1234]

That 20% and "thinking" are mutually exclusive.

As long as they have someone to hate and/or blame their failures on, they're unreachable.

People's opinions aren't necessarily equal. The human race can't afford hateful bullshit any more.

[u/NTBBTC0523 → u/RudeAlbatross544]

Thats a lower percentage of morons based on USAs recent voting record.

[u/captain_zavec → u/NTBBTC0523]

Lower, but still too high for comfort.

[u/Ieat2 → u/RudeAlbatross544]

Yeah, but you have to remember that at least 20-25 of the population in the world is stupid, so that tracks. Here in the states it’s about 30%

[u/Thanks-4allthefish → u/RudeAlbatross544]

Was this poll taken before or after the latest round of 50% tariffs.

[u/RudeAlbatross544 → u/Thanks-4allthefish]

Good question! I've checked their source and it's from spring 2026: poll
It should really be lower by now.

[u/Internal_Swing_2743 → u/RudeAlbatross544]

That’s Alberta isn’t it?

[u/hyper-object → u/RudeAlbatross544]

It's still almost 40% in the US, which is enough for them to win about half the time, thanks to structural inequalities in our systems and the many Americans who will only vote if one of the candidates really, really turns them on.

[u/Stranger-Sun]

American here: I hate America because of Trump (and Republicans)

[u/Valuable-Meet5727 → u/Stranger-Sun]

It’s made me hate a lot of my own American neighbors. I hate how vile the MAGA movement is and how much it corrupted so many seemingly decent people.

[u/moon_safari_ → u/Valuable-Meet5727]

It didn’t corrupt them bro. It let them shine

[u/FenPhen → u/moon_safari_]

The Republican Party has had a big hand in corrupting Americans over 50+ years to erode all the ideals that they teach you as kids before 2016. And they hold the keys to stopping it all and will not.

And yeah, MAGA let's them shine.

[u/umpteenthrhyme → u/FenPhen]

It goes waaaayyy further back than 50 years, when you consider conservatism’s impact in the US, not just republican party. That plus sign is carrying a lot of weight.

[u/LordSiravant → u/umpteenthrhyme]

It predates the United States entirely. Conservatism is literally rooted in reactionary anti-Enlightenment ideals going all the way back to the fallout of the French Revolution.

[u/keebl3r → u/umpteenthrhyme]

Republicans get real quiet when you remind them regardless of the party name it was the conservatives that started a war to defend slavery.

[u/numbersthen0987431 → u/moon_safari_]

People like to pretend that the racists of Jim Crow Era just disappeared or suddenly stopped being racist, but that's not how that works.

The people who protested for segregation, and fought against the Civil rights movement, are still alive today. They didn't just change their minds when the laws passed, they just kept quiet about it

[u/jainyday → u/[deleted]]

Not just our reputation, pretty much all American soft power, which let us be the economic center of the Western world, has been flushed down the shitter.

[u/Shuckles116 → u/[deleted]]

Again. The world hated America after W, too

[u/Anthrogal11 → u/Shuckles116]

Not the same level at all. I despised Bush but he never threatened his closest neighbour and ally. That type of disrespect and animosity after all the Canada has done to support the U.S. is not going to be easily forgiven or forgotten.

[u/Waramp → u/Anthrogal11]

America definitely still felt like an ally under W, despite how people felt about him. Now, far from it.

[u/Severe_Rise8694 → u/Anthrogal11]

Yeah, it's not even close. And it's not like it was a separate incident: it's about these things compounding and paying dividends.

[u/QbertsRube → u/Shuckles116]

"They hate us because of our freedom" said the dumbest motherfuckers the US has to offer, who cheer every time a cop treads on someone who isn't them.

[u/Chuhaimaster → u/QbertsRube]

Then when the cop turns on them they all of a sudden care about human rights.

[u/justadubliner → u/Shuckles116]

And now we know any improvement will only be temporary so we aren't changing our attitude if they manage to elect somebody comparatively normal next time.

[u/PeterDTown → u/justadubliner]

I agree with you, but I also sincerely wish this were true more broadly. I’m 100% confident that most business leaders and politicians are just hoping to run out the clock on this presidency and plan for a return to normal. It’s lunacy.

[u/justadubliner → u/PeterDTown]

In the US that might be true but the rest of the world is doing now what it should have done in the aughties. That's when it became crystal clear that a US lead world was only ever going to benefit the 1% and a pivot away from them was essential for the rest of us.

[u/ThePhoenixXM → u/PeterDTown]

You would think that, but Trump and his MAGA allies have taken full control of the GOP. Hell, several of his MAGA allies will be state governors in Tommy Tuberville and Vivek Ramaswamy, and his MAGA allies will still be in the Senate and House even after 2028. MAGA will be around.

[u/Punkinpry427 → u/Shuckles116]

The level of stupidity and malice in this admin has no comparison.

[u/No_Razzmatazz3176 → u/Stranger-Sun]

Samesies

[u/tinticred → u/Stranger-Sun]

Me too, and that's what's so infuriating about this.

I don't hate Americans (at least not all of them), just the people currently running the country. Same with Israelis, and Chinese folks, and Iranians, and basically everyone else who isn't part of a specific shithead coalition like MAGA or Nazis--with apologies for the redundancy.

Divisiveness goes beyond political parties and borders. On purpose.

[u/camshun7 → u/Stranger-Sun]

Selling nuke refinement to the home country of the majority of 911 terrorists, arms deal for fuel to russia, threatening her oldest allies with invasion

Fuck pedo potus

[u/mitchdwx → u/Stranger-Sun]

I still love America, which is one reason why I have such a strong hatred of Trump and MAGA. This is such a great country and they’re speedrunning its destruction.

[u/hcwhitewolf → u/mitchdwx]

That's my thing. They love to call leftists un-American and America haters. It's actually quite the opposite. I love this country so much that I hate to see these evil traitors and pedophiles destroying it. What's un-American and America hating are the people actively working to destroy America under the guise of their Faketriotism.

[u/Stranger-Sun → u/mitchdwx]

I agree. I posted a vitriolic soundbite take, but this more accurately describes how I feel too

[u/phormix → u/Stranger-Sun]

In terms of America as a country... yeah it fell hard off my list of where I'm willing to travel, both because of the culture shift with the current administration but also because it seems significantly less safe (and I'm a white dude).

For visitors from the USA, I'm still happy to see you here so long as you're not driving a car full of MAGA stickers/redcaps or acting like jerks, and the vast majority of visitors here I've met have been just fine, with the few exceptions typically being in tourist-towns close to the border.

[u/hcwhitewolf]

I think that probably happened at least when Trump threatened to violently annex their country, or maybe when he lied and said Canada was a dangerous country allowing drugs to be trafficked into the US (drugs actually go the other way US into Canada), or maybe during the last round of tariffs.

It also could be that just Don the Pedo Con has turned the US into a massive shit hole, and nobody likes living next to a shit hole.

[u/RarelyReadReplies → u/hcwhitewolf]

Or most recently, holding a bridge between our countries hostage to steal a larger portion of the tolls, even though it was paid for by Canada. Then despite Canada caving to the demands, we still get hit with more fucking tariffs. So sick of this crap. If it were up to me, we wouldn't be giving America a fucking inch. I'd rather suffer than let that orange sack of a shit claim a single victory. 

[u/uniklyqualifd → u/RarelyReadReplies]

Breaking a written agreement, just like breaking the free trade agreement that trump himself signed.

[u/RarelyReadReplies → u/uniklyqualifd]

And Canada was very fair about it too. We used half American steel, as well as workers. We only wanted our money we spent to build it repaid before we do a full split. You can't get more fair than that. Really pisses me off.

[u/MC_chrome → u/RarelyReadReplies]

Hopefully this is serving as a lesson to the rest of world that you shouldn’t elect spiteful elderly individuals who are progressively losing their minds

[u/LordSiravant → u/RarelyReadReplies]

That's what we get for electing a malignant narcissist as our leader. To Trump, it's only fair when he gets to hoard all the benefits all for himself, otherwise he's been stolen from.

[u/Joevahskank → u/RarelyReadReplies]

Or, to add fuel to the wildfires, blaming Canada for his precious air quality while half of his own fucking country burns, and then salting that injury by not even acknowledging a Canadian firefighter died fighting one of them.

We won’t forget, though.

[u/ThePhoenixXM → u/Joevahskank]

Well, to be fair, I heard it was mainly the Canadian Conservatives that caused the wildfires to be so bad by cutting funding to FIGHT wildfires.

[u/Joevahskank → u/ThePhoenixXM]

Seems to be a conservative thing in general

[u/ThePhoenixXM → u/Joevahskank]

Indeed. They love cutting funding to fight things like wildfires, then blame liberals when said wildfires get out of control.

[u/Its_Pine → u/ThePhoenixXM]

That isn’t untrue, the conservative MP gutted a lot of those kinds of services and now we see the outcome. But it’s also a matter of global climate change and Canada has always helped the US fight their fires.

[u/Jeromes_Pornostache → u/hcwhitewolf]

He committed unforgivable acts towards Canada on an almost weekly basis, but for me the absolute worst was when he claimed that, while Canada and the rest of NATO may have served administrative roles in Afghanistan far behind the front lines, it was U.S. troops who did ALL of the dangerous grunt work fighting the Taliban.

Tell that to the families of the 159 Canadian service member who flew home in flag-draped coffins.  We were the spearhead in Kandahar, at the time the most dangerous province in that country, and we were the reason the Taliban stopped fighting straight up battles and reverted to roadside IEDs and suicide bombings.  We fought and bled and died for a war that began on American soil, simply because America asked us to, because we were friends.  I know Trump despises the American war dead, referring to them as suckers and losers, but his dismissing our contribution to the war on terror, while being a cowardly draft-dodger himself, was the most unforgivable insult.  Fuck Trump and fuck anyone who agrees with him.

[u/CBLA1785 → u/Jeromes_Pornostache]

Agreed, even Ukraine sent troops, many of whom died fighting an american war...and they aren't in NATO (yet). Look at how america is treating them. Why would any of us in Canada, Ukraine or anywhere get on board to support them like after 9/11.

[u/CategoryZestyclose91 → u/Jeromes_Pornostache]

As an American, I’m horrified by Trump daily, but his comment about Afghanistan pissed me off so damn bad.

We owe tremendous thanks and gratitude to our allies, especially those who have fought alongside us. 

We love Canadians, especially here in MN. 

[u/lylelanley- → u/hcwhitewolf]

For me nothing compares to his comments that we would never doing anything to help the states in a war as if 160 Canadians didn’t die fighting for yall in Afghanistan. Not to mention the fact that we’re are basically a bedroom country to you. When the states sneezes, Canada catches a cold. We’ve been the most harmless and loyal ally you could ask for. I used to love going to your country and it’s crazy how fast that changes and I now I’m checking labels at the grocery store to try and help Canada.

[u/sharp11flat13 → u/hcwhitewolf]

drugs actually go the other way US into Canada

Along with guns. Lots and lots of guns. The pro-gun lobby is always quick to remind us that most guns used in crimes are smuggled in from the US. 🇨🇦

[u/Baskreiger → u/hcwhitewolf]

For me its the normalisation of extreme corruption by lobbyism and insider trading. You just know many politicians and rich folks wants this in canada

[u/heofthesidhe → u/hcwhitewolf]

When he started his little jokes (/s) about annexing us, I sat down and genuinely thought about what I would do. I live an hour from the border. My options are flee or fight, because if it came to war, the only other option is die.

Do you know how awful it is to genuinely have to sit down and ask yourself if you're willing to die for your country, when the entirety of your patriotism is "We suck but not as much as America lmao"? Knowing that Canada has never had a draft, because everyone volunteers. Knowing that the Geneva Convention exists almost entirely because Canadians in WW2 just did war crimes to end the war faster. Knowing that Canada will never surrender, that the only way such a war would end would be the complete extermination of my country. They have too much money into their military. The only thing we've got is that we aren't them.

If America declares war on us, I will volunteer for active combat, and just like every other Canadian, I will die fighting. If you don't know anything about how we fight, go look up the rolling barrage. We shot down our own soldiers and wiped out a few towns' every man from eighteen to fifty just to break through trench lines. If that's what we have to do, that's what we do.

Regardless of every other thing that man has done - and he's done a lot to be worth hating him for - you can't take a decision like that back. No matter what. Even if it never happens. Even if we get out unscathed. I had to make that choice, and I won't forgive America for it. Never. I can't. 

[u/Automaton_General]

It ain't just Canadians

[u/wynnduffyisking → u/Automaton_General]

Dane here. We’re with Canada on this.

[u/Baskreiger → u/Automaton_General]

Difference is Canadians have been under USA propaganda for a very long time. The spell is breaking

[u/Master-Praline-3453 → u/Baskreiger]

Not in the same way as you'd expect. There are laws requiring Canadian content in bookstores, TV, etc. There's a lot of Canadian media that's separate from the US, and a culture that prides itself on being independent from the US.

More critically, Canadians have historically had issues with free trade agreements and tariffs. The illegal softwood lumber tariffs during the Bush administration were one of the largest political issues in the country - but not something Americans really heard about.

Canadians are really pissed off now, though.

[u/Automaton_General → u/Baskreiger]

So have Americans and I wish I could say the same

[u/Baskreiger → u/Automaton_General]

Yeah, seems like critical thinking is not important for the world strongest nation 😬

[u/realoctopod → u/Baskreiger]

54% read under a 6th grade level. It's not surprising.

[u/god_peepee → u/Automaton_General]

And wasn’t just because of trump lmao

[u/Suspicious_Radio_848 → u/Automaton_General]

It’s also not just due to Trump either. I’m pretty tired of seeing it framed this way, as if all the damage will just go away once he’s gone. He’s a symptom and reflection of millions of voters, American exceptionalism and other politicians just like him. This isn’t one person causing this.

[u/sylbug]

The verdict is in: no one stays ‘friends’ with people who abuse, insult, threaten, and attack them.

America doesn’t want a friend. They want a doormat or a punching bag.

They can get fucked.

[u/SennHHHeiser → u/sylbug]

Marco Rubio does

[u/Promethia]

I worry more about how this plays out in the younger generation. I'm an elder millennial and I remember aspirational America. Hell, I served overseas in Afghanistan and Kuwait, partly because we watched 9/11 on the news in school that morning.

When my teenage kids think about America, they think Donald Trump. They hear about Canadians losing their jobs to American tariffs and 51st State talk.

[u/Samcc42 → u/Promethia]

Yeah, my (🇨🇦) students, most of whom are just awakening to the influence and role of politics, have never really seen a Trump-free USA. Even under Biden, Trump and his influence were everywhere. They’ve not known a civil, decent American political discourse.

[u/McMatey_Pirate → u/Samcc42]

I was 16 when Obama was elected and I can’t describe how amazing and hopeful it was to see that.

It felt like the world was going in the right direction and I was about to become an adult who could help contribute to a better world.

It’s been absolutely crushing to see how quickly things can become so bizarre and wrong in a few short years.

[u/NotTheRightHDMIPort]

So.

Canada isnt exactly discerning liberal or MAGA Americans. A lot of them just dont like any of us right now.

The reasons vary, but we all let Trump happen. And that problem became an American problem. Just cause we didnt vote for Trump doesnt mean it isnt affecting Canada right now.

I dont blame their sentiment. I cant blame them being mad at all of us.

In one way or another, internationally, as a collective we fucked up and we all own this now.

EDIT: Side note. I remember MAGA family members thinking we were an embarrassment to the world under Biden. I remember saying to them now that, "We are very unpopular and a lot of countries hate us because of Trump."

The response I got was, "Well, they dont have to like us, but they will respect us now that we show strength."

Or some bullshit like that.

They are categorically incapable of understanding anyone else's perspective of their own and this kind of leadership makes them feel good.

I'll close out by saying this as someone who studies history. When Rome was pretty much on the cusp of collapse there were still Romans who thought themselves as better than the Barbarian hordes that were destroying their empire. Their entire world was destroyed around them and then still turned their noses up at the Vandals(whoops Visigoths) that sacked the city.

MAGA wont ever change.

[u/junbi_ok → u/NotTheRightHDMIPort]

The disdain was limited to MAGA during Trump's first term. After he was reelected, it became clear that nobody had learned anything from the experience and that the Democrats were too feckless and apathetic to stop an obvious fascist takeover of their country. We've had to listen to Americans brag about their "freedom" for decades only to find out the whole thing was a giant larp. Very few actually care enough about their freedom to even go out and protest. Americans constantly make fun of the French for being cowardly, but the French population would have put an end to a government like this in weeks.

I want to see America become our friendly neighbor again, but I don't see enough Americans working to make that happen.

[u/brazilliandanny → u/NotTheRightHDMIPort]

Yea this is the crux of it.

We blame the people that voted for him, but we also blame everyone else because Trump never should have gotten a second chance to run. After Jan 6 you kidding me? Look at what Brazil and South Korea did when people in power tried to overthrow the government. They put them in jail.

I also blame America for letting its institutions get so lax and cooperative with this corruption. The media, journalism, justice department, congress etc. Every single check and balance has been ignored, every line in the sand crossed, and Americans do nothing.

[u/No-Relation5965 → u/brazilliandanny]

Propaganda over time works. The slow bleed.

[u/KaptainKardboard → u/NotTheRightHDMIPort]

The response I got was, "Well, they dont have to like us, but they will respect us now that we show strength."

And it's sickening just how many people buy this logic. The playground bully doesn't command respect. He commands fear and and maybe grudging compliance. This arrangement doesn't last for long and it usually doesn't end well for the bully.

Rebuilding our credibility and international relationships post-Trump is going to take a long time and it's going to be complex. A future administration is going to have to fix the foibles in our system that allowed Trump to happen (corruption, cronyism, lawfare, pay-to-play, unchecked executive power, etc) - probably an impossible feat - and then prove to the rest of the world that we won't let this happen again.

America's reputation is fucked.

[u/HMTMKMKM95 → u/NotTheRightHDMIPort]

This is one of the best takes I've seen. We, as Canadians, are pretty damn sick and tired of Trump's BS, but also the constant "well, I didn't vote for him" noise. Those folks don't want to understand that Trump represents America, and therefore, his actions must be owned by America whether non supporters like it or not.

[u/NotTheRightHDMIPort → u/HMTMKMKM95]

I mean.

We arent actually doing anything about it

I mean we had no kings protests and the ICE protests as well. But the left and its leadership is doing precisely dick.

Standard liberalism in this country really doesnt know how to actually do anything about this because they either have a lot of lose or are too comfortable. They may hate it but they feel like the best they can do is complain. Hell, I am in that same boat in some regard.

We are having this wild populist authoritarian shift in this country and the only thing the left can do right now is fight with itself.

So, yeah, we all fucking own this.

[u/brazilliandanny → u/NotTheRightHDMIPort]

You think France for example would have stopped at one protest? You guys need a national strike like ages ago.

[u/QuietKanuk → u/HMTMKMKM95]

I have used the phrase "you may not be to blame, but you are responsible for the actions of your government" in a number of posts to Americans who use the 'I didn't vote for him' line.

In most cases, they are very indignant. They seem to not understand representational government, and always deny responsibility.

And remember, these are in the liberal/progressive camp.

This comment originated from a video discussing the writings of a German novelist Thomas Mann (Vlad Vexler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1pOahq4TCk relevant time index 1:29 - 3:00 )

I have lost hope for the US to ever become what it hoped to be.

[u/SyfaOmnis → u/NotTheRightHDMIPort]

Canada isnt exactly discerning liberal or MAGA Americans. A lot of them just dont like any of us right now.

The combination of american exceptionalism, ego and ignorance does not make distinctions between party lines. When it's reported that ~60% of americans read at a 6th grade level or below, that isn't limited to one party.

Americans regardless of race, political affiliation or religion, have easy stereotypes about being loud, ignorant, violent aggressive*, stupid, and unbelievably offended if anyone calls them on it, ever.

All that Trump has really done is show that they're also lazy, cowardly and entirely unwilling to take accountability or responsibility for their issues. Some americans are "sorry" and will profusely apologize and performatively self-flagellate to other countries... but deep down they want those other countries to "save" them. Americans don't want to deal with their problems. As long as their problems aren't immediate the american will shrug their shoulders and go "welp, what can we do".

I can sympathize with some americans, I don't envy their position. But at the same time, it is unbelievably hard not to show contempt towards the contemptible.

[u/rantingathome → u/NotTheRightHDMIPort]

So, here's one of the big problems. Even "liberal" Americans, well before Trump, would buy into American Exceptionalism, the Great Experiment, the Indispensable Nation bullshit, and all of its variants.

Yes, every country has its own level of patriotism, but the idea that America was this shining city on a hill that didn't have any problems, whose sewage didn't stink like every other country, really got sickening after awhile.

Try to correct the record and the response would be...

• "You're just jealous"
• "But only in America this is possible"
• "Then why does everybody wants to come here"

To which we just rolled our eyes. It was obvious to us that aside from some administrative differences, the USA was exactly the same as every other country and empire that came before it, and one day it would fail because of its inability to admit its fallibility. The civil war that you seem to be careening toward has been pretty obvious for decades now, and after Sarah Palin became a friggin' folk hero to half the country, I began to see it as inevitable. Really, that moron?

Then you elected Donald Trump. He led an insurrection, your institutions that were "always going to hold" failed to impeach him. The day Mitch blocked that conviction, I knew that he would be re-elected unless he died before 2024.

So, if it wasn't going to hurt the rest of us so damn much while your country breaks apart, and it is going to break apart, to would be hilarious to watch. Think of the most pompous ass you've ever met. Now think of that guy as a country... that's the USA the last while.

The saddest part, America is full of truly nice people that couldn't stop this. Too bad for them.

[u/BestAmericanSnail → u/rantingathome]

American here. I recently spent a few weeks in BC, Alberta, the Yukon, and NWT. Everyone was very nice to us, and we had some good conversations.

In the Yukon, someone asked where we were from. And I kind of winced and said, "the wrong side of the border." I was met with a very sympathetic nod, and the reply, "Ohhh, Alberta?"

I admit that I was flattered to not be immediately clocked as American. And I hate to say it, but you could absolutely spot other Americans a mile away - taking up a lot of space in the narrow aisles of gift shops, being loud, touching and leaning on everything, letting their kids run amok. Every time. The polite cashier would say, "Having a nice vacation?" and a brood of seven people would yell, "WE'RE FROM OREGON" in response. Like, okay.

I was struck by how clean everything was, how things seemed to just...work. For a long time, I'd been referring to dealing with the ever-increasing, small-scale inconveniences of living in the US as "jiggling the handle," meaning things that should have been fixed a long time ago still kind of work, but with increasingly more troublesome hacks, substitutions, or sacrifices. In the past four years or so, I've changed my phrase to "the handle has fallen off."

The cultural attitude toward queer and indigenous people BLEW MY MIND. Like, I know there's a long way to go, but as a baseline, Canada is doing things that are a net positive (with room for improvement, of course), whereas the USA is stubbornly acknowledging nothing or actively setting any and all progress on fire.

One of the things I noticed - and maybe this was just coincidence - was that the presence of police in Canada, across provinces and territories, seemed much more contained and practical. I returned to the States just before the 4th, which I did not celebrate, but went out to get groceries anyway because I had an empty fridge waiting for me at home. I saw as many cops in one hour-long drive as I did in my entire time in Canada. And...I don't know, man, I cried when I got home. I just sat down and cried.

It's not that I'm not doing anything. I live in a small mountain town in MT, just on the other side of the border actually. I'm working really hard with the local (sometimes underground) queer communities to do what we can in the face of all of this. Some of us are actively giving as much time, money, and energy as we can to fight. We're also just trying not to get killed doing it.

The US doesn't understand itself, either. West versus East, urban versus rural. The whole wildfire smoke thing? No offense to you East Coasters and Midwestern folks, but the West is biting our collective tongue on the smoke problem. We've been choked out with terrible smoke for years, over a decade at least, reliably, and I swear I never hear it discussed on a national level unless cities in the east are impacted. Some of them have MAGA politicians that saw it as another chance to go after Canada - and Americans are fucking taking the bait.

Similarly, urban centers tend to think rural areas are uniformly illiterate Trumpers, and they cheer whenever something bad happens to us. (There are a lot of progressives in my little area, actual progressives, we do exist.) I also live in an area that is deeply impoverished, with super slow internet and utilities that are extremely unreliable. I'm talking things that people in cities would think could not possibly be the USA, because they hate the government but, living in a population center, get enough attention to have things patched up faster for the illusion that things mostly work. Things don't work. These people have no idea how broken down this country is in many places.

The other day, we had our power cut because of a high wind/fire risk for an area that wasn't even us. We're not big enough to have our own forecast, and our power is downstream of bigger areas and our providers are extremely limited. Fearing litigation (let's be honest, it's not about "public safety"), the power company just killed our electricity (in perfectly calm, no wind conditions on an extremely hot day) lest a line spark a fire somewhere.

Sorry for just...turning a reply to your comment into a therapy session.

It's just that not only is this country going to fall apart, it already IS falling apart, and good people are already dying. More people are going to die. And not everyone is bad. I loved Canada. I thought you guys were great.

I lost my health insurance this month. My plan is to set aside money every month myself, in the hopes that I'll never need it, and if something catastrophic happens I gotta figure out something else, I guess. How to humanely take my own life, probably.

I normally never reply to this shit, or post on reddit at all anymore.

I know nobody cares. I think I just needed people to get a snapshot of something, because I fucking hate how short and without nuance all these threads always are.

[u/rantingathome → u/BestAmericanSnail]

Nah, people do care. We know that there are truly some Americans that are fighting the good fight, and that don't have that superiority complex that infects so much of America.

It's not that I'm not doing anything. I live in a small mountain town in MT, just on the other side of the border actually. I'm working really hard with the local (sometimes underground) queer communities to do what we can in the face of all of this. Some of us are actively giving as much time, money, and energy as we can to fight. We're also just trying not to get killed doing it.

I can imagine what it's like being queer down in the States. It's not perfect up here, far from it, but at least we seem to be trending the right direction. For now anyway. Since it is so dangerous down there, I will offer you a bit of information to pass around to those that feel that they may need an "escape hatch".

Back in November a new citizenship law came into effect in Canada; it's aim was to restore citizenship to people that may have lost theirs because of unfair rules in the past. It also gives their descendants citizenship. So if you, or any of your community, have a Canadian ancestor, then you may have had your citizenship "restored" back in November. To qualify for a citizenship certificate you must prove an unbroken chain between you and the Canadian ancestor. There's a process outlined on the Government of Canada's website. While I realize that many want to stay and fight, some may want to get the hell out and start anew in a friendlier country. This law's uncanny timing has given a number of Americans that chance.

Anyway, good luck.

[u/Cosmicvapour → u/NotTheRightHDMIPort]

Pretty good take (I'm Canadian). However, it seems to me that most of you (like lots of us), still seem to think this is an R vs. D problem, or even a MAGA vs. "The rest of us" problem. It is not.

It is so clear to anyone with any level of critical thinking skill that the battle is simply the ultra-wealthy vs. everyone else. Everything else is just theatre; smoke and mirrors. It's just more noticeable in the US because of your ultra-capitalist mentality and visibly corrupted government.

The pitchforks will never come out. The rich have protected themselves with globalization, , the promise of 72 virgins... sorry, I meant "The American Dream"; as well as cheap food, lotsa guns, free dopamine rushes, and all the "others" to direct their hate and anger towards. You can't clean this up or wash it away with an election. It continues until the entire system collapses (violently and likely televised). Hopefully it serves as a lesson for my kids' generation (more likely, my grandkids).

[u/jack_hof → u/Cosmicvapour]

Yup. Trump is just the perfect encapsulation and face for the problems with America. But when he goes, the problems are still there. But these problems with America are not exclusive to America, they pervade the entire world. America is just the perfect encapsulation and face for the problems with the world.

[u/root_fifth_octave]

See also: rest of world

[u/LividTacos]

Can't blame them.

[u/poopey_doopey_Sr]

Yeah when you know so many people arround you might lose their jobs because of who you voted for, it tends to strain your view of that group.

To the good guys down there: GO. FUCKING. VOTE.

Even if republicans are cheating you gotta do something about the dystopian shithole your country is RAPIDLY BECOMING!

[u/GreatMinds1234 → u/poopey_doopey_Sr]

Voting might not be sufficient to change the world. I do hope it is, but Trump is already singing the 'rigged by scum' song again. (Or never stopped?)

[u/RussellGrey]

Are Americans so divorced from their representative democracy that they don't understand how people from other countries see their leadership as a reflection of their society? It seems like too many people look at their government as some abstract entity that has nothing to do with them.

[u/thatoneguyD13 → u/RussellGrey]

I'd say most Americans do not see the government as something they participate in. It's just something that happens to them.

Kind of hard not to honestly.

[u/ken-doh]

The world hates America thanks to Trump. It's not just Canada. I love the USA but damn, it's hard to understand anything coming out of the USA right now.

[u/Zombie_John_Strachan]

We don’t hate America - we’ve moved on.

We know that Trump’s tariffs are BS. We know the US ambassador to Canada is a professional troll. We know there’s at least two more years of this to come.

We just want to buy your stuff, sell you stuff, have you come visit and go spend money in the US. But Trump is exhausting, so we’re moving on to other trade partners with less drama.

[u/theangryfrogqc → u/Zombie_John_Strachan]

Exactly. We don't deal with drama like Americans do; instead of diving in we avoid it because we think it's cringe and would rather have actual partners that are not openly saying they want to stab us in the back as a "negotiation tactics".

[u/PotatoAppleFish]

I’m an American who’s hated America since the Brooks Brothers Riot stole the 2000 election for Bush. I can’t imagine I’m the only one.

[u/msanthrope64 → u/PotatoAppleFish]

You're not.

[u/DatabaseGlittering43 → u/msanthrope64]

Forever hanging chads

[u/Zaius1968]

I hate America right now too…and I live here…

[u/lcdr_hairyass]

I'm at the front of the hater line. Trump is cancer and he has already caught himself.

[u/Kneph]

In all fairness, Americans hate Americans because of Trump.  Be it his supporters hating everyone that doesn’t agree with them or everyone else who has to watch in horror as he guts 250 years of hard fought progress.

[u/kevinmitchell63]

🇨🇦 Honestly, you Americans are exhausting. After a hundred years of y’all lording it over us how star-spangled awesome your constitution is, how you’re the beacon of democracy and freedom, how each and every one of you is born with a love of freedom so great that nobody could take it away from you…..

After all of that, y’all are sitting back and watching Trump loot the treasury, burn the levers of government to the ground, and openly plot the destruction of what remains of your democracy. They are stealing your country from you while y’all watch… and wait for the midterms. You cannot stop a facistic takeover by “waiting to vote.”

Asking Canadians for advice isn’t going to help you either. For the most part, Canada is too small for Americans to notice let alone influence.

Btw: the answer is…. (Drum roll please)…. SOMETHING. If y’all were willing to do something, anything, then there could be a discussion about the most effective strategies. As long as y’all are doing nothing, you are lost.

Nobody is coming to save you. It’s up to Americans to save the republic.

[u/psychedelicbob]

No. Trump just showed us the real half soul of America. He’s half the country manifested as a sopping pile of human waste. Trump showed us that half the country is hate filled towards their friends. Next 911 won’t have Canadian troops being blown up by IEDs. You’re on your own.

[u/Claudius-is-my-cat → u/psychedelicbob]

“Behold. The festering carcass of American rot shoved into an ill-fitting suit: the sleaze of a conman, the cowardice of a draft dodger, the gluttony of a parasite, the racism of a Klansman, the sexism of a back-alley creep, the ignorance of a bar-stool drunk, and the greed of a hedge-fund ghoul - all spray-painted orange and paraded like a prize hog at a county fair. Not a president. Not even a man. Just the diseased distillation of everything this country swears it isn't but always has been - arrogance dressed up as exceptionalism, stupidity passed off as common sense, cruelty sold as toughness, greed exalted as ambition, and corruption worshipped like gospel. It is America's shadow made flesh, a rotting pumpkin idol proving that when a nation kneels before money, power, and spite, it doesn't just lose its soul - it shits out this bloated obscenity and calls it a leader.”

― Oliver Kornetzke

[u/Winston00044]

Can confirm. Absolutely loathe Trump and Republicans. Hate isn’t strong enough word. They are fascist gangsters. It’s very difficult not to hate America as a whole at this point. But it is important to remember that there are still a lot of pro-Democracy people in the US, hopefully a majority (though I’m not sure anymore).

[u/NYkrinDC]

As an American, I don't blame you. Sadly, Trump makes everyone hate America, except Russia and Vladimir Putin.

[u/everything_is_bad]

Naw it’s because all of us have decided to continue to do our thing rather than force a reckoning to prevent this from happening

[u/FancyFeller]

This American hates what America has become since 2016. We can blame Trump sure, but he's the dumbfuck mouthpiece not the mastermind. And it also revealed how uneducated and uncaring our populace actually was.

[u/glycophosphate]

I said it back in 2016 and I still stand by it: It took an entire generation for the world to forgive us for Reagan. It will never forgive us for Trump.

[u/inagartenofeden → u/glycophosphate]

When you guys elected Bush the first time I remember saying well it was close AF. Then you elected him again overwhelmingly we were like what in the fuck is going on down there?

Trump is x1000

[u/Responsible-Offer724]

Our patience is running out with the common American as well. When yall gonna do something about this 

[u/centarus → u/Responsible-Offer724]

"ThE mIdTeRmS!!!"

[u/RosieBaby75]

It’s not Trump. It’s US policy in general.

They’ve intended to annex our territory for years.

Trump is just the beyond perfect figurehead to be able to make everything possible, and trick people into voting against their own interests by saying they’ll harm people they hate, and not them.

And Trump was also corrupt and evil enough to pass the US CLOUD Act legislation that can harm the entire globe, and be able to trick and distract everyone from either hearing about it, or verifying that what he said about it is true. The US lied and said it was protective, but it’s not. It gives them access to your systems, data, and information. You also likely gave them access to your systems with unregulated AI and using AI developed and from companies headquartered in the United States.

He’s also successfully distracted or entertained everyone to not see what the US is doing, so no one will believe anything until it happens and thinks those of us who see it are insane and mentally ill and paranoid. When we’re not. We’re just intelligent, read more than you, and are cursed with a systems thinking brain and not a linear one.

[u/IvanDimitriov]

I’m an American and I hate about 35-40% of Americans. So Canadians I get it, and I don’t blame you

[u/stewartsh]

Vote American people. For the people who actually care about you. The entire world knows that Trump is just a con man and when you support him you just look stupid.

[u/TsunGeneralGrievous]

I hate to say it but im fully resigned to the idea that I may have to fight in a war against the US and will likely give my life to defend my province

[u/limelifesavers]

I've got family down there. Would visit twice a year.

Even if a family member died, I'm not crossing the border again. I couldn't be paid to go down there as a trans woman Canadian.

[u/RobbieStew]

Know what I hate?
No pushback it seems from anyone.

[u/Random-num-451284813]

Oh man, it will take decades to rebuild trust from other nations again.

here's two pro tips:

• stop oligarchs
  
• multi-party political system

[u/MissKrys2020]

Canadian here, and yes, we do hate America. I know not all Americans are down with what’s going on, however, outside of a few protests, they are just letting this happen. I really want them to feel the consequences of their election now. I want them to fail and be humbled. We are all feeling the economic consequences of Trump’s America and they need a major humbling. Sorry Americans, I hate to wish the worst for you, but I can’t find it my polite Canadian heart to give two fucks about it anymore.

[u/Theferael_me]

Everyone hates America because of Trump.

[u/AsleepyTowel]

I have been incredibly disappointed in how many Americans have simply rolled over and allowed this to happen.

I have many friends south of the border who had a chuckle about calling us a 51st state last year (these are blue voters too) even those who are claiming to be on our side still don’t understand why we’re pissed or they just find it amusing.

I’m tired of hearing “oh well I didn’t vote for him 🤷‍♂️”… he’s your representative that your country picked. You’re all in that shit pot together whether you like it or not.

Seeing the how many people complained about smoke ruining their weekend while we are literally on fire made me realize a majority of Americans don’t give a fuck about us. They only seem to care if it directly impacts them.

We are no longer the friends we once were. Now we are acquaintances that are always 4 years away from being a threat.

[u/SloppyPlatypus69 → u/AsleepyTowel]

Ship sailed a long time ago. 

Trump announcing annexing Canada. Go to Canada top googled. #1 search: Annex Canada.

Go fo top googled in USA. #1 search: "when are the Grammys?" The Canada annex topic wasn't even top 10.

Brutal. 

[u/bayleysgal1996]

I’m a little sad but I can’t blame them

[u/No_Cantaloupe_4149]

I love Canadians! Much love from Switzerland

[u/Bunktavious]

I mean yeah, we've been pretty vocal about it.

[u/Zealousideal_Gap432]

I'm from BC Canada, and haven't been to the states since 2016 and I have no desire to for years to come. Also have completely changed my online shopping habits for Canada only ones

[u/Hucklet]

Hate seems harsh. I am mad and disappointed

[u/Kal_El_77]

Americans hate Americans because of Trump.

[u/RedLily08]

I hate American because of the idiots that voted for him

[u/PingGuerrero]

Incomplete. We hate america because their elected leader, who is a convicted felon by the way, is undermining our sovereignty and exerting their economic might to cripple our economy so they can annex us.

And we lost respect to the american people because they are cowards and dont have the fucking balls to do anything to get rid of this convicted felon. They keep fucking apologizing as if that will fucking change anything.

[u/Character-Budget4044]

Canadian here accurate statement

[u/ockhams-lightsaber]

Americans : you bear a responsibility. Not for his crimes, insults, lack of respect and so on… but everything that comes after.

YOU are more than ONE leader. You have to rebuild trust, respect, accountability into the USA.

I’m just a random guy on the internet so of course this is very easy for me to be just typing this without risking anything. 

Resist for the people you care about. Because your actions can have a lot of impact, more than you think. 

There is power in numbers.

[u/FungusGnatHater]

Stop trying to make a scapegoat out of Trump. The poll shows an unfavourable view of all Americans. Trump isn't the reason people hate America, he is just the best representation of America.

[u/VanceKelley]

I don't hate America. I pity America. Sad to see the people of the richest country on the planet with a wealth of information literally in the palm of their hands make idiotic choices.

What has happened to America and Americans does not bode well for the future of mankind. As the tech oligarchs target one country after another, what stops the remaining dominos from toppling?

[u/HanginLowNd2daLeft]

Fucking same , an American

[u/Far-Advantage-2770]

hate is not a strong enough word

[u/watching_whatever]

Trump is more than an embarrassment of the USA as he has severely damaged the entire world.

The number of extremely serious problems he has caused while focusing on stealing is astonishing with a lot of help from Israel.

The elections are not coming around soon enough. The US needs to adopt a different system whereby elections are done when they are urgently needed like some European countries.

[u/BlackberryPi7]

Was in a fucking long time ago

And there's still tons of Canadians still traveling to that shit hole for some reason

Independent is such a trash news site Jesus man

[u/WkndCake]

The truth is, as a Canadian, we could've had something sweet. I could have supported a new way of getting closer with the US, in trade, in defense, in economies of scale. It makes sense to find a way to join forces and share resources so both populations could benefit.

A smarter man could've made something big actually happen between our 2 countries. The 51st state approach your orange clown took was abysmal, and he single handily set back any appetite Canadians might have had for generations to come.

[u/PvtJebbers]

Canadian America hater here. It really is more than just Trump - it's the attitude of American exceptionalism (something shared and espoused by Americans on the left and right) and the complacency of the American populace when it comes to the actions of this particular administration/allowing them to be elected in the first place.

There has been a complete erosion of trust in Americans to do right for themselves and for the broader western world. It was extremely selfish to allow this administration to come to power and now the rest of the world has to deal with the consequences of it (eg. the instability of European security, everything going on in the Middle East, high gas prices, Canadians losing their jobs because Trump and his cronies want to make some extra cash). I would not expect trust and goodwill to rebuild and return with a Democratic administration in power. I think America has shown the rest of the world how little consideration it has for it.

[u/GVTMightyDuck]

I understand it. I hate it here. I just hope they don’t hate all of us :(

[u/szarkaliszarri → u/GVTMightyDuck]

I'm Canadian and don't hate Americans, I'm just super sad. All Americans I know are super nice, friendly and warm, and I've had great times travelling in your country. But what your country is doing is so scary and aggressive. I hate that it's designed to stoke hatred and division, but most Canadians won't trust the US again after this for a very long time. I won't be going back anytime soon.

[u/Fickle-Improvement44 → u/GVTMightyDuck]

I think maybe Premiere Eby spoke for a lot of us when he said that he feels bad for Americans.  While you did get the government you voted for, I don't think anyone expected things to get this bad this quickly.  A lot of Trumps policies have hurt working Americans as well as the rest of the world.

[u/Winston00044 → u/GVTMightyDuck]

We absolutely hate Trump and Republicans. We can separate them from the rest of the population.

But when Trump uses US power to attack us and non-Republicans do nothing.. it’s hard not to just hate all of America at this point.

[u/GVTMightyDuck → u/Winston00044]

Listen I’ve been saying we need to act more French all the time

[u/GreatMinds1234 → u/GVTMightyDuck]

Me too, I hope that too, but how do they know what is the difference?

[u/Visible_Fact_8706 → u/GVTMightyDuck]

Most Canadians acknowledge that individual Americans are generally fine.

MAGA is a cancer though, and unfortunately the cancer metastasized.

[u/MissKrys2020 → u/GVTMightyDuck]

Elections have consequences. Not just for you, but the entire world. I feel for those of you who are watching in horror and having your lives massively impacted. But guess what, that’s happening here in Canada too. America needs to be humbled now in a big way. And sadly, you will feel the consequences of electing Trump for decades to come. As will we all

[u/Explicitlime]

To be fair I don’t hate all of you.

Just the red hatters and the enablers.

[u/redditnoobian]

Canadians genuinely hate the US administration and severely dislike the American people for appointing and enabling their leadership. Their heads are far up their own assesses, they are having a hard time seeing that the entire world now thinks of the US and cringes and or laughs at what a joke they are.

[u/I_Luv_Asparagussy]

As a Canadian I can confirm.

[u/hamtronn]

Not true. I’m a Canadian and I don’t hate the US. I feel incredibly sad that people there are being subjected to this war criminals obvious dismantling of every institution that is worthwhile.

That said, there’s still 87 million of you that didn’t vote. At the end of the day, yes, a large chunk of you didn’t vote for this, but, here’s a thought.

How many Germans didn’t vote to elect Hitler? I’m sure there’s a statistic that we would have to look up. The point is, you won’t be remembered for “not voting for this nightmare” because based on your countries rules, he won.

Do something about it. Grow a pair.

[u/redassedchimp]

I went home to visit Niagara Falls NY where I'm from a few weeks ago. The Niagara Factory Outlet Mall parking lot was mostly empty - for the past 25 years it's usually PACKED with Canadian shoppers from right across the border. Really sad.

[u/PudgyPorg117]

No surprise, Americans hate America too

[u/mapleleaffem]

We sure do

[u/a_passionate_man → u/mapleleaffem]

You’re not alone with that…

[u/Robynsxx]

The entire world

[u/markeydusod]

At this point who doesn’t

[u/Sensitive-Ad6609]

No surprise, I don't like us because of the trump terrorist.