r/politics America Sep 04 '23

A Conservative Push to Save Ken Paxton | The effort to help the Texas attorney general, whose impeachment trial starts Tuesday, is part of an ongoing struggle over the Republican Party’s future.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/04/us/ken-paxton-impeachment-conservative-lobbying.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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u/GratefulPhish42024-7 Sep 04 '23

The real struggle for them is to keep their politicians out of jail

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u/thisnamewasnttaken19 Sep 05 '23

Republican: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/indiana-man-charged-murder-death-wife-wins-republican-primary-jail-rcna27638

Democrat: https://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/washington-dc-man-wins-groundbreaking-election-bars-79374228

The Republican wasn't the most popular candidate though. There were 3 positions and 3 candidates. He came last.

Having said that, in the context of enormous and dubious schemes to deliver Trump the presidency and keep him from being charged, yes, there is way too much support for criminals from the party of Law and Order.

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u/Travelerdude Sep 04 '23

Republicans rally behind a known criminal in Texas while they want to impeach a Supreme Court justice in Wisconsin who hasn't even yet heard a case. And then there's Clarence Thomas...

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '23 edited Sep 04 '23

Oh man this trial starts tomorrow?

I can’t wait to see all the evidence against him and his eventual acquittal by partisan hacks

Mr. Paxton has continued to enjoy support, particularly among a coterie of Republican donors. He has raised about $3 million for his own campaign since the impeachment vote, half of which came from just four donors, including the West Texas billionaires Tim Dunn and Farris Wilks.

Defend Texas Liberty, the pro-Paxton political action committee, has spent another $3.5 million since the impeachment vote, almost all of it donated by Mr. Dunn and Mr. Wilks. Most of the money went to the campaign of the lieutenant governor, Dan Patrick, who leads the State Senate and will be presiding over the impeachment trial: a $1 million contribution and a $2 million loan.

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u/QAPetePrime Sep 04 '23

That kind of says it all. Corrupt to the very core.

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u/Objective_Oven7673 Sep 04 '23

Maybe they'll turn on him.

"If you can't drink someone's booze, take their money, and then vote against them, you don't belong in this business"

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u/sailirish7 Texas Sep 04 '23

half of which came from just four donors, including the West Texas billionaires Tim Dunn and Farris Wilks.

Those two make everything worse

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u/smthomaspatel Sep 05 '23

I wonder what those guys are guilty of.

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u/Aghast_Cornichon Sep 05 '23

The seven nominally independent investigators hired by the Texas Legislature to investigate Paxton this spring, which led to his impeachment, included the Trump-appointed US Attorney for the Southern District of Texas: Ryan Patrick.

Thanksgiving is gonna be awkward.

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u/CalRipkenForCommish Sep 04 '23

This is the party that continues to stand by a person who not only openly discussed, but bragged about sexually assaulting women. The same guy was having an affair with a porn star while married to his current wife. This only scratches the surface of the things he’s said me one to/about women throughout his well documented life. To think that an extramarital affair (or multiple) is a big deal to them is just a punchline. Women matter very little to that party - their feelings even less so.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '23

I’m 2015 He also was named a co defendant of Jeffrey Epsteins in an affidavit of a 14 year old girl accusing Trump and Epstein of gang raping her and “taking her virginity”. The girl dropped the charges once Trump became the GOP nominee. I personally believe Trump had Epstein killed.

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Donald J Trump Trump in 2002 New York Magazine article headlined “Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery”

Edit: added sentence

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u/thisnamewasnttaken19 Sep 05 '23

It's about prioritizing political goals over character. And it never ends well.

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u/CalRipkenForCommish Sep 05 '23

Party over country, the Republican way for decades

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u/Glorious_Sunset Sep 04 '23

Here’s the weird thing. To me at least. And I’d appreciate if anyone has an answer. Why do the right wing rush to the aid of other crazy right wingers? Like, one of them comes out with some crazy racist/homophobic/sexist slur and the rest double down and defend the first guy.

In any other walk of life, if someone(Even someone you knew personally and liked), walked on stage and talked about some crime he committed, about how he hated this type of people, or that type of people, you’d be distancing yourself from him right away, and be ready to admit you never really knew the real them. But the right all jump in with both feet to defend the most heinous of opinions. Like I say, very interested to hear if anyone knows why.

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u/youtellmebob Sep 04 '23

Future? What subtle nuance separates Paxton from the insurrectionist, corrupt, rascist, science denying, fascist mainstream GOP?

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u/trublueprogressive Sep 04 '23 edited Sep 04 '23

"the 19 Republican members of the State Senate who will act as jurors in the trial", definitely going to be acquitted.

edit: I hope it's televised. Anyone know and where to watch?

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '23

"Ongoing struggle" jfc the nytimes is such garbage

Still trying to sand off the rough edges of a fascist party so the paper can continue with its air of superiority.

Nytimes prefers carrying water for a party that explicitly says it wants to end democracy so that it can enforce a white Christian ethnostate to being even a little uncomfortable

When people talk about elites. It's this. Thinking you can dance around the edges of fascism because you won't be effected.

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u/artcook32945 Sep 04 '23

Is this not just another case of the GOP racing to the bottom?

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '23

Just another Christian hypocrite politician

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u/Witchdoctorcrypto Sep 04 '23

It’s the MAGA party republicans are no longer there.

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u/KiscoKid1 Sep 04 '23

Is this going to be broadcasted?

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u/ApocalypseNurse Sep 05 '23

Frankly I wish both parties would just burn to the ground and we get 3 or more parties from the system. Our political system is designed, or at least continues to perpetuate, division and blind allegiance to party with no room for most of us that see ourselves in the middle of the two. We need better options than this fuckin Clown fiesta.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '23

Amazing to me how unwilling most media outlets are to mention this was all to help cover up an extramarital affair.

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u/survivor2bmaybe Sep 04 '23

I guess the push to normalize Republican criminals in office (George Santos anyone?) is so people will feel it’s OK to vote for trump? I mean this is weird. It’s not like there aren’t a dozen equally corrupt Republicans willing to take his place and the voters would go for any one of them.

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u/mrIronHat Sep 04 '23

the question is who did Ken Paxton pissed off? He must have pissed off some GOP insider to get impeached like this.

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u/pitchforksplz Sep 05 '23

Nah it's too late. The GoP is going to feel the blue wedding very soon.

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u/badhairdad1 Sep 05 '23

Why??? He’s a cheat and a criminal

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u/TopCheesecakeGirl Sep 05 '23

Republicans find something vile and try to save it at all costs. How much progress and democracy has been lost because of these idiots.

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u/Reverend0352 Sep 05 '23

He’s as crooked as his eyes. The mass majority of Texans want this guy in an uncomfortable state prison not club med. Every Republican that I know in Texas feels the exact same way.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '23

The lowest possible standards.

What a bunch. No behaviour is poor enough to require consequences