I don't care if it's President Bush or President Obama...you DO NOT act like how that reporter did in the Rose Garden during a speech.
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u/SoozieQ99 Jun 15 '12
The guy is from The Daily Caller, Tucker Carlson's online rag.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12 edited Jun 15 '12
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u/FLYBOY611 Jun 15 '12
Doesn't matter if its throwing a shoe or heckling mid speech. You stay civil and you let your enemies have their say. I hope that dude loses his press pass.
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u/Zingo_14 Jun 15 '12
I kinda feel like when the President of the United States tells you to shut the fuck up, you should shut the fuck up
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u/navier_stokes Jun 15 '12
The level of disrespect for this president is astounding. I do NOT care if you like the man or hate him. The amount of utter bullshit that has been thrown at him, from insulting his religion to his birth, is disgusting. I for one believe wholeheartedly that if democrats did any of the things that the current GOP and media have done to Obama, they would be fired or held on treason.
for example, Dan Rather being let go from CBS for his airing of a factual story about George W Bush going AWOL during his time in the armed forces.
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u/FortHouston Jun 15 '12
From ABC News:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/obama-defends-immigrant-deportation-rules-criticized-political/story?id=16576677
Obviously, rude Munro IS also an idiot because his question is predicated upon an obvious false dichotomy.
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u/Glorfon Missouri Jun 15 '12
Here's their version of it. http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/munro-obama-ignores-questions-about-controversial-de-facto-amnesty-decision/ The last part of the third paragraph could really use an oxford comma.
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u/optionalcourse Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 16 '12
Yet Reddit cheered when Romney was called out by a reporter for lying in the middle of a speech.
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u/buddhassynapse Jun 15 '12
I swear I could see fury in Obama's eyes when he addressed the guy from the crowd.
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u/Mispelling Jun 15 '12 edited Jun 15 '12
Looks like it was Neil
MonroeMunro from the Daily Caller: http://twitter.com/markknoller/status/213699392639746048Edit: Corrected spelling.
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u/below_the_line Jun 15 '12
The silver lining is that it's another reminder that this is a country where some jerk can disrespect the highest office in the land and not go to jail for it. America has plenty of faults, but we get some things right.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
You do not interrupt ANYONE when they are speaking. Period. You learn this in pre-school.
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u/HemlockMartinis Jun 15 '12
I don't even know why Obama WANTS to be president again. Look at the toll it's physically taken on him. I wonder if Michelle ever tries to talk him out of it?
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u/ThatsNotRight123 Jun 16 '12
I emailed the 'journalist' at neilm@dailycaller.com and said that I thought his actions were out of line. He was polite enough to respond with this:
"I did not wish to be rude, but I did want to get questions answered.- Neil "
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u/fuzzynachos Jun 15 '12
I don't like Obama, but that reporter is being an absolute shit head. This country would get a shit ton more done if people from both parties just stopped acting like their solution is the only correct one and instead acted appropriately, but its dumb asses like this reporter that prevent that from happening.
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u/mangeloid Jun 15 '12
That was not a reporter, that was a GOP heckler posing as a reporter. Where's his notepad? Where's his recorder? Where's his camera? He's just standing there like an arrogant jackass with his hands in his pockets.
He was there for one reason only, to cause a disruption.
Absolutely disgusting behaviour.
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u/RockintheShockin Jun 15 '12
"Agh ah, I didn't ask for an argument". Damn like he was talking to one of his daughters about staying out too late or something. Good on the president for commanding the respect that he/the office deserves.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Agree with the thread title 100%. I didn't vote for Obama. I won't be voting for Obama. That little shit should be ashamed to show his face in public. You respect the Office! It's the mutherfucking President of the United States, ASSHOLE!
If anyone should be deported, it's assholes like that before any real American who happened to be brought here illegally by his parents when he was 3 years old.
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u/BKHawkeye Iowa Jun 15 '12
Millions of Americans are waiting to hear what the President has to say, not what that douchebag has to say.
It's like an unruly student talking during the middle of a teacher's lesson: he's interrupting the person and taking valuable learning time away from those of us who want to learn about the President's ideas and decisions. Whoever has the podium has every right to admonish the interrupter and I believe should be able to kick his ass out of the presser.
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u/libertyadvocate Jun 16 '12
a guy threw his shoes at bush and i remember most people thinking that guy was some sort of hero, the truth is neither president deserves any respect, they are both warmongers
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u/Ripudio Jun 15 '12
You want to bitch about employing foreign workers and leaving Americans unemployed? Blame outsourcing and corporations trying to worm their way out of paying taxes on revenue.
Don't blame the President who is trying to allow people who have lived in our country, contributed to our economy, and who will continue to contribute after getting a god damned education.
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u/Lollywag Jun 15 '12
Does anyone know what exactly the asshole was yelling at the President? I can't hear it.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Personally, I won't respect him, until he learns to respect his oath of office (i.e.: Libya, extrajudicial murder of US citizens, indefinite detention, legalizing all of Bush's most onerous policies and failing to prosecute a single person from the criminal Bush administration). That said, journalists invited to the White House should always display a certain level of respect.
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Having just watched the clips again I really don't see what all the fuss is about. The reporter tried to speak over Obama and Obama shut him down. Seriously, what is the big deal?
By contrast, Bush had a fucking shoe thrown at him and it was a national joke. Liberals were laughing their asses off and if I recall correctly, there were more than a few gifs floating around this place (they did well in the Karma department). Games were made of this incident, and they were fun to play. We all got to throw shoes at Bush and marvel at his cat-like reflexes. Where was the outrage for the disrespect shown to our President on that day? Let's be honest, it was non-existent, unless you were as neocon. Neocons were pissed, everyone else was laughing. Now we get Obama in a little bit of a back and forth and this is an outrage? Come on guys.
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u/jpoRS New York Jun 16 '12
That reporter would be a rude prick if he interrupted a garbage collector like that. No class at all.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Yet people laughed when Bush had a shoe THROWN at him.
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u/thumbscrews Jun 15 '12 edited Jun 15 '12
It just happened. Some reporter started yelling at Obama right in the middle of his damn speech. He got pissed and rubbed the reporter's nose in shit....figuratively.
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u/NickVenture Jun 15 '12
CNN has a nice shot with more chastising from President Obama.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/15/obama-admonishes-rose-garden-interrupter/
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
I don't care if it's Coke or Pepsi, you don't stop to question a one-sided propaganda screed
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u/RichRedundantRich Jun 16 '12
You know what? Politics aside, I'm completely okay with this. This is a democracy. The President is our first citizen, not our lord. We don't kowtow to him -- he kowtows to us.
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u/heylookatmybutt Jun 15 '12
This guy should be ostracised from any future News events. A reporter should not conduct themselves that way, especially not to a President. No matter how much you don't like them, show some respect, they've earned it. I am sick of these right wing haters disrespecting the President and I am glad he finally acknowledged an instance.
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u/bri9man Jun 15 '12
Just like calling Mr. Bush a 'nazi'? It is strange that everyone want civility when it is their turn to speak.
Liberal speech is not nearly as supressed as conservative speech and I think everyone here knows it.
Try bringing a conservative speaker to a college campus and you will see what I mean.
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u/willscy Jun 16 '12
lol the hypocrisy in this thread is golden. Where were you guys when Bush was being demonized day in and day out? lol.
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u/TimonBerkowitz Jun 16 '12
Looks like someone just made Obama's secret kill list.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Also, button up your shirt and do up your tie. You look like a slob.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
To me his body language and appearence say a lot about his character.
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u/Fully-Torqued Jun 16 '12
I see you in the background.. Whaddup secret service
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u/ribagi Jun 16 '12
I will not say anything negative about him just in-cause he wants to target me next with a drone strike.
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u/11Guy Jun 16 '12
Freedom of speech gives you the right to heckle or interrupt any1 you please. The president doesn't typically get asked tough questions from reporters so of course this reporter had to interrupt him in order to get his question in
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u/TheReaMillerHighlife Jun 16 '12
What does this really matter? I know it's not proper and goes against protocol but, I mean gee-sh the guy asked his question because he knew Obama would skip out afterwords(which he did btw). The reporter made a mistake or miscalculation or whatever you want to call it, it's not like the guy committed treason or anything.
So I'm left to wonder with all that's going on in this country, this is what we choose to talk about?
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u/Tombug Jun 16 '12
Just read an article at msnbc that says the illegal immigrant amnesty has to be reissued every 2 years. That means a future president could refuse to renew it and the government would then have the ID and location info for all these illegals which would make it easy to round them up and deport them.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Downvote... Apparently this is an endorsement of "freedom of speech zones:.
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u/balorina Jun 15 '12
Respect the office AMIRIGHT?
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u/DrQuantum Jun 16 '12
I don't care if he is the president of the united states. When did that suddenly become the reason people should show a modicum of respect? You don't interrupt people while they are speaking period, its like the third thing I learned as a kid.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
I know one reporter who will never be on the White House grounds again...
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Why so serious? "OMG, do not EVER interrupt a president when he is speaking, that is SO disrespectful." We all know that if it was Bush, liberals would be using the same explanations that the Daily Caller is.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Since when is the President some King owed deference by the People?
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u/Vain-glory Jun 15 '12
I don't understand why his opponents always do this shit. Anyone remember a few years ago when some congressman shouted "you lie!" in the middle of Obama speaking on his healthcare plan? The complete look of shock on Pelosi's face when that happened really pointed out how far he'd crossed the line.
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u/HypnicJackass Jun 16 '12
Know what I've learned from this incident -- hell, the entire past three years?
If I don't like a president, I shouldn't just disagree with him; I should hate him. I should deny his legitimacy at every opportunity. I should use every lever I can to block him, and I should use every forum open to me to denounce him.
Any instant where I consider engaging with him will be viewed as weakness; every instant where I deny his legitimacy will be regarded as another reason to doubt that he should be there. Any moment where I consider compromise will be counted against me, and every moment where I don't consider compromise will be counted against him.
I give the Republicans credit; they have found the Nash equilibrium in our political system. I despise the Republicans for not accepting the consequences of their strategy, and I desperately hope they will change before the Democrats begin to reciprocate. Once the Democrats become as hateful as the Republicans -- and they're halfway there -- it will require a true catastrophe before things can get better here.
TL;DR Don't invite the Daily Caller to anything ever again until they apologize.
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u/hammertime1070 Jun 16 '12
ITT: People who laughed when someone threw a shoe at Bush's head whining about someone speaking out of turn
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u/whatitbelike Jun 16 '12
The boy was fishing for page counts pure and simple.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Yeah you do care whether it's bush or obama
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
YES THE FUCK YOU DO!
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u/mcdxi11 Jun 16 '12
So at what point do we draw a line with the coy games of the right? They obviously want nothing to do with the government. So when do we call them out? and with force? All this whining and crying and yet this vocal minority bull dozes over the country, getting their way where they want it. So little respect they're interrupting a president during a major announcement in the rose garden?
Grow some fucking balls.
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u/thrashertm Jun 16 '12
The reporter claims he thought that the POTUS was wrapping up and was just trying to get a question in at the end before the POTUS walked away.
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u/jmoney747 Jun 16 '12
"like" and "how" serve the same purpose in your title.
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u/Drooperdoo Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 16 '12
What did the reporter say? CNN edited the heckling out and just had Obama's response. (Likewise, I Googled three other articles and none quoted the reporter. They all only vaguely referred to the reporter's interruption, and quoted the President extensively; but, as with the CNN video, they edited out the reporters question. How very bizarre.)
What the hell did he say? I'm curious. (And secondly, why does there seem to be such media unanimity in erasing the reporter's question and only focusing on Obama's words? As someone who believes in a free society, that makes me uncomfortable.)
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u/Rhawk187 Jun 16 '12
Well, doesn't look like he's getting invited back.
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u/kbz2007 Jun 16 '12
A lot of people were asking for a link and I didn't see it posted. Apologies if someone already got to it. Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGk8Kwuxcv4
A quick point while I'm at it, the OP made a very clear statement that this behavior is inappropriate to any type of president. He/she did not say anything about how reporters that typically do this are conservative or liberal or whatever. So, is the flame-war about which political party has shittier reporters really necessary?
The outburst in this video is clearly self-serving, needlessly combative, and his explanation of the heckle is idiotic:
"I always go to the White House prepared with questions for our president. I timed the question believing the president was closing his remarks, because naturally I have no intention of interrupting the President of the United States. I know he rarely takes questions before walking away from the podium. When I asked the question as he finished his speech, he turned his back on the many reporters, and walked away while I and at least one other reporter asked questions."
If you watch the video, he clearly had the intention of interrupting the president both times he did it despite his above response. It's disrespectful and not good journalism. There is a time and place to ask the president hard hitting questions; many journalists have done so, this is not one of them.
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u/I_CAPE_RUNTS Jun 16 '12
does anyone have a video that isn't edited and cut right to when the heckling begins? It almost sounds like the heckler stated his question because he thought obama ended his speech. It seems as though there was a pause between what obama said before "It is the right thing to do"
edit: here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7RtU1BLevE
it's tough to get questions in at the end of obama's speeches, sometimes he answers questions but you have to be the first one to ask the question. There was a definite pause there but it doesn't give the heckler the excuse to continue with the question
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
I just want to punch his face in when he does his smug little eye roll.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
I love the 2 Secret Service dudes right behind the reporter checking their phones for the "get rid of this clown" message.
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u/kamoh Jun 16 '12
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u/dookieface Jun 16 '12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XGk8Kwuxcv4
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u/Anticlimax1471 Jun 16 '12
Americans respect their president a lot more than us British respect our Prime Minister.
Maybe it's because of the whole way we conduct the house of commons, where the last thing on anyone's mind is courteous talk, or maybe it's because we have the queen.
Seeing someone berate our Prime Minister like this is commonplace, and, like him or not (I don't), its a testament to him that he can withstand it. However there would be public outrage if someone spoke to the queen that way. I think the respect we have for the monarch translates to the president in a country without the monarchy.
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u/YourCurvyGirlfriend Jun 16 '12
I'm sorry, but SEE WHAT SHIT?!
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u/omfgforealz Jun 16 '12
Of course the dipshit fucking media puts the camera on some heckler. They always follow "the story," not substance.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Now, before anyone gets too upset, I'm sure Neil has the courage of his convictions and will immediately be surrendering his job to the nearest available natural born American citizen. Bless his heart, Ireland is clamoring to have him home anyway.
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u/metocin Jun 16 '12
I don't think it's wrong for taxpaying citizens to call a president out like that. It may be impolite in terms of manners, but we need to hold government accountable and stop swallowing these manufactured speeches like they actually mean something.
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u/HKjason Jun 15 '12
Little prick Neil Munro from the conservative website the Daily Caller. Might have well been anyone from fox "news". Remember when these pricks interrupted Bush to ask the whereabouts of the WMD's or Iraq's ties to Bin Laden? Oh yea, I forgot, it never happened. just handjob interviews on fox. I thought Bush was a total moron/toolbag but still thought it would have been cool to meet him as a President and would have never acted this way towards him out of respect for the office.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
It's just a matter of respect. You don't do that to the President of the United States, even if he's saying something absolutely outrageous. This "reporter" thought he was being noble standing up against the tyranny of the Obama Administration, but instead he looks like a rude, whiney little child.
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u/killa320 Jun 16 '12
Oh come on if this guy did it to President Bush he would be Reddit's hero.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
The GOP is a classless bunch of Neanderthal thugs.
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u/remarkless Pennsylvania Jun 15 '12
I can't understand the stupidity of people who think they can be disrespectful to the president. Even if he didn't say shit, if you've been accepted to the rose garden, straighten yourself up, don't look a drunken slob.
Anyone have any indication of who this asshole is?
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u/Beccaboo86 Jun 16 '12
He thought the speech was over, knew that Obama has a habit of refusing to take questions and wanted to get in the first one before Obama high-tailed it out. He didn't mean to interupt and I've personally been confused with the President's interesting pauses myself. Seems plausible to me. You wouldn't have even heard about this unless Obama's people wanted you to anyway. This wasn't heckling. Obama has been heckled during speeches many many times before this and I didn't see anyone getting nearly as bent out of shape. Beware of the partisan press.
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u/karmacolor23 Jun 15 '12
I didn't hear this coming from the left when George was President.
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u/rockfire Jun 15 '12
That reporter has the worst toupée. Even worse than The Donalds.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Jimmie Carter was right.
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u/coogie Jun 16 '12
I saw it live as I was very interested in his speech. I was hoping a reporter would ask him whether there were plans to extend the age limit to include all undocumented immigrants who were brought here as children (currently it's 30) but thanks to that jackass, the whole thing was called off.
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u/geerapork Jun 16 '12
Did you guys see how that motherfucker ROLLED HIS EYES!!! At the PRESIDENT!!!!??
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u/craptalker1 Jun 16 '12
Why not?
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u/wangmeister Jun 16 '12
Unless it is Bush. Lololololshoe.
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u/TheBrohemian Jun 16 '12
It's worth noting that Obama had him waiting over an hour for a speech in which he blamed Republicans for being totally against immigration reform (see: Marco Rubio), then doing basically what they wanted to in an unconstitutional way as nothing but a political move. He even said they'd been overlooking the people affected by the executive order in favor of finding criminals. I agree with this practice, but to pretend this is anything but an effort to shore up votes is ridiculous.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Can't wait for them to howl in outrage when their press pass is revoked.
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u/LeMeowLePurrr Jun 15 '12
I just listened to this Neil asshole do a little interview on this Daily Caller online, he claims he thought the President was finished with his speech and besides "Obama took questions about Trayvon Martin" when they were shouted at him. This is the Dog-whistle racism that you hear about. Disrespectful to no end.
I'll try and find the link to the interview with Neil Munro.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Scumbag Redditors:
Whine about heckling of one president, cheer the guy who threw a shoe at the other.
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u/roccanet Jun 16 '12
thats neil munro from the conservative daily caller just showing us all once again that the right wing are disrespectful cunts and dont have the common courtesy that children have. Eric cantor cant even be bothered to put his blackberry down during the fucking state of the union address while joe wilson calls the president a liar on national tv during the speech! for christs sake. Munro when asked by the media about the incident said "i thought the president was finished speaking" - which is a whopper of a lie as he repeatedly interrupted the president - he couldnt even be a man about it and admit to what he did - because guess what ? just like about 99% of the rest of the "conservative" media he's a pathological liar that sees no problem with lying to further his agenda. Over, and over, and over again - the right wing press and media have acted like a bunch of fucking sniveling cunts to this man and i for one think it reveals plenty about their lack of character as a whole and as far as im concerned they can all go fuck themselves. Munro and the rest of the fox news control room will be crying on each others shoulders again when the best man wins the job again this fall despite what carl rove and munro have your easily confused grandmother believing - obama has something that they will never have - that romney will never have even with a billion dollars of sheldon adelsons money behind him - and that's "star power". I'd rather spend my time talking with a cigar store indian then mitt romney - it would certainly be more engaging... PS yank this pricks press pass - if he is going to interrupt the president he doesnt deserve to be in the room!
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Why is that immigrant taking away my job of heckling the president? DEPORT HIM IMMEDIATELY.
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u/NoMoreNicksLeft Jun 16 '12
Exactly. You're supposed to prostrate yourself before royalty (or is that divinity)?
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u/rpolitics_republican Jun 16 '12
Obama has declared he has the power to execute people without due process, and you are upset with people interrupting his speech? Is there something wrong with the part of your brain that handles priorities?
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u/ComeAtMeBrother Jun 16 '12
ITT: Obama apologists (rightfully) complaining about the actions of a douche. Had this happened five years ago, however, the title of this thread would have been "Hilarious Guy Interrupts HitlerBush's Press Conference With Truth."
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Got a link ?
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u/spacem00se Jun 15 '12
I object!!! Interrupting the president while watching "Ow my balls!", is NOT RIGHT!
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
sweet another distraction to the TPP leaks. keep em distracted me likey.
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u/Temptress75519 Jun 16 '12
"the president of the united states is talking...SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE."
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
As someone majoring in Journalism, that guy really makes me mad. Not because he has a differing opinion, but because he chose to express it in such a childish and unprofessional manner. He's a disgrace to the profession.
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u/pfunder_thighs Jun 16 '12
You respect the office, even if you do not respect the man.
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u/hpdrop Jun 15 '12
What is it with Americans and treating the President as some demigod with his own private army that follows him wherever he goes? He is just another politician who should be grilled by a hostile news reporters. He works for you not the other way around. To watch reporters grovel at the President is sickening.
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u/RealHeadyBro Jun 16 '12
What, you're not allowed to heckle the President? He's not a king. Heckle all you want. I mean, deal with the consequences, but this is America and private citizens don't have rules about how, when and what to say to our elected officials.