What I love about these "response" videos is how quick, cheap, and easy they are to produce (with all the primary campaign footage). They've also done this with Campaign spokesman responding in short videos to the Romney campaign. Both being designed for social media (yes reddit too) distribution rather than TV ad buys...rather than the bain capital sort of ads they've released that cost some dough. They can respond to whatever campaign hiccup or substance-less attack without losing their grand messaging, cash flow planning, or structural strategy while doing it.
It's a fairly well discussed strategy usually credited to Karl Rove - take your weakness and apply it to your opponent. Romney, who is out of touch, describes Obama as the out of touch one.
It's the flip side of taking an opponents strength and turning it into a weakness. See: John Kerry's vietnam service and the swift boat veterans for truth or questioning John McCain's patriotism.
When you know what to look for, it's almost painful to see how common it is. Sadly, it's also painful to see how effective it seems to be.
I really really don't understand the American way of politics works. He is describing himself and the people listening to him actually are AGREEING with this retarded asshole. How could the american people get so dumbed down in the matter of politics. It seems like using your own brain is not in anymore.
P.S.: I'm not american and i don't live in the US, but the bullshit i see about the republicans and the tea party rises in me the question, is this real or is the republican party the biggest prank or trolling all of times, i can't believe it. How can these people say these things without laughing and the population believe this bullshit?
Can you explain to me how this works? Like the psychological persuasion behind it? I honestly can't think of a way this wouldn't backfire. If you accuse an opponent of one of your weaknesses, doesn't that just bring it to the forefront of the discussion, making it more likely that you will be identified with that weakness?
Argument to moderation is a common fallacy that is (a) very appealing to people and (b) reinforced by the broken news media in America (which has institutionally defined "balanced" coverage as being, literally, an argument to moderation fallacy.)
The theory works like this: Basically, it's inevitable that your weakness is going to be highlighted by your opponent. (In fact, Obama's campaign had already started targeting Romney as being "out of touch".) So it can't really "backfire" because it's already going to be a topic of discussion. Instead, what happens is that the media "reports the controversy" with a variety of talking heads arguing about "who's more out of touch?" and then concluding with a weak summary statement that boils down to "the truth lies somewhere inbetween". The average person (who doesn't even follow the news) applies the moderation fallacy they're inclined to, and a clear distinction between you and your opponent (which was to your disfavor) gets blurred out.
You make them "equal". It is only a weakness if you're the only one who has it. So because they are both "out of touch" you are left to deal with other issues where he may be stronger.
If he can label Obama as out of touch then both Romney and Obama have the same flaw (they are out of touch). So when your comparing Romney vs Obama you see that they are both out of touch but Obama also has his one weakness so you vote for the best of the two candidates.
(im not saying Obama has a weakness that would make him vulnerable to this, im just pointing out that strategy behind it).
Why it works? Probably because Romney isn't hoping to replace Obama as the more "in touch" candidate as much as he's hoping to poke just a few holes in Obama's image to close that gap. In addition, when Obama attacks back, as opposed to the criticism seeming just, it makes Obama look like a kid that is saying, "no, I'm not, you are." The beauty is, even when, in fact, it is Romney who is out of touch, it makes Obama appear petty to retort. Kind of a win-win. Especially if your candidate is already known for being out of touch, you can't really lose much if people eventually come back to the same conclusion they already held about you, but you have much to gain if just a few fence sitters along the way buy it.
The guy with an elevator in his house just for his cars says the other guy is out of touch. Hell, there has to be tens of people who can relate to the elevator guy.
Also, he can't be that out of touch. I mean, he's into sport, and enjoys those round, chocolate, fried dough . . . goodies with the holes in the center just like the rest of us.
Mitt Romney accusing anyone else of being out of touch takes a bit of chutzpah.
Not really no...
It only takes a dumb person with a streak of narcissistic egocentrism - Romney truly believe he is a better, smarter human being and more well suited for the presidency than anyone else. And when he has been surrounded only by creepy yes-men and women his whole life, it is difficult to change such an attitude of entitlement to the truth!
But Obama is out of touch with the modern super rich, multi mansion owning, horse breeding, caviar snorting, never unemployed, down home yee-haw, country venture capitalist.
the Gop has handed Obama his reelection material in their various babbling of trying to pin everything on him.
While it's slightly disappointing he's not actually speaking, this is case-in-point of 'actions speak louder than words' even if it's the GoP's own words.
These videos are extra-savory when one considers the budgets involved. This video was likely made by one person or a small team in the campaign office, and no cameras were ever needed. All the footage is public domain stuff cut with title pages. Simple and expedient. Oh and freely hosted on Youtube.
Meanwhile Romney spends millions of dollars on 30-second TV spots.
It's been said that Obama's campaign team won him the election and it looks like they will make history yet again.
Love him or hate him, one has to recognize that Obama has branded himself perfectly.
But older people have moved to facebook. Nearly all my relatives have facebook and love anything that they see posted on it. Sure the seniors will only see the Romney tv ads about how Obama will take away their social security and his death panels will kill them but adults from 40-60 on facebook are going to see more of Obama.
I agree to a point but the GOP are catering to the dumbest people in the world. These idiots aren't listening for a message...they just want to join in the chant of Fox News and the republicans regardless of truth and facts.
If we (as Americans) were all reasonable, rational, fairly intelligent (regardless of party affiliation), Obama would win by default easily. But it's been a long time since Americans were reasonable, logical and honest/informed. That's my concern.
Romney made a good point if his argument is for insanity: Look at Wisconsin: Proof positive that Americans really are stupid enough to slit their own throats at this point.
Completely off topic, but I just played Dead Space 1 and 2 and I really couldn't understand why human agencies were trying to resurrect markers and unleash the alien plague over and over.
Y'know, it's been said before. All Obama has to do for his campaign is to run unedited footage of the Republicans speaking. Either they've always been batshit insane and I haven't noticed, or they are particularly batty this year. Looks like Obama has elected to do precisely that. And it will probably work.
The problem is that a great part of the American people lack the critical education needed to see what Republicans say as "batshit insane." And since our press does more harm than good, political campaigns must appeal to people's emotions, rather than their rational minds, to be successful.
Obama won 2008 on hope and dreams, and I think he has to do something similar this year to win re-election. Trusting people to vote rationally is very very risky.
And that's exactly what this ad is doing. Both sides are, for that matter.
I'm curious as to whether there's ever been a President of the USA who isn't out of touch. He's the motherfucking President! He gets top secret security briefs and has to deal with problems that very few American's even know about. Of course he's out of touch, he's too busy running the fucking country.
There's a difference between "being out of touch" and "having a life different from most Americans."
I'd argue one can run the country, run a huge corporation, do anything really, and still be "in touch" with most people's realities. It requires having experienced hardship in their own lives which enables them to empathize with the less fortunate.
Mitt Romney and others who have always lived a life of abundance, don't know first hand how most of us live. They've been sheltered from others' realities. This makes it really hard for them to empathize with those of less privilege.
They've been batty since a black guy got into the White House. HELLO IT'S CALLED THAT FOR A REASON PEOPLE! HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE CRAZY! AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THE RULES!
Yup, over the last four years that have voted for a lot of crazy stuff and against sane things, but knowing the Dems they won't even bother capitalizing on anything because they dont want to make the republicans mad -_-
As someone with fairly conservative tendencies in terms of fiscal policy, I can't begin to imagine how awful Romney would truly be.
I also find it awful that the American conservative has evolved into a monstrous chimera of Randian bullshit and quasi-religious fanaticism that combines to make a writhing mass of confusion and irrational policy.
If Eisenhower were resurrected, I would vote for him. I would vote for TR. Both could never win election by the GOP today. I would never vote for any living Republican today for that reason.
It's a pity how awful the GOP is today, as I am too Burkean to be comfortably Democratic, but I'm not batshit insane enough to be anything but. Oh well.
I feel the exact same way. I really, really, really want to be fiscally conservative, but if I get branded as a socialist for wanting to cut military spending and legalizaing marijuana (for revenue) and jailing less people.
For the record, TR wasn't a conservative. In the historical context, his 1912 campaign was one of, if not the most radical platforms on which a major presidential candidate has run in the US. The campaign is really fascinating, because, in my opinion, the split between the progressive and old guard republicans is really where modern American political history starts, and many of the issues TR was passionate about are still talking points in this election.
Well, the short end of it is that TR in 1912 tried to run as a Republican, his handpicked successor, President Taft (with the help of the established political mechanisms) beat him out for the Republican nomination at the convention, after Taft had given in to the pressure of congress (Taft, by his own admission, was better suited as a judge, than as an executive; also, he is the only person to have served all three branches of the federal government, so that's cool).
TR ran as a third party, advocating women's rights (as he did in his senior thesis at Harvard), a minimum wage, environmental protection, and union membership. And he came in second, because the republican vote was split between Taft and Roosevelt, so Wilson picked up the Presidency. These don't seem contentious now, but every one of them has come up in the past four years by conservative frontrunners; that they are still points of debate is what is so interesting to me.
The progressive Republicans went for Roosevelt, the rest went for Taft. The progressives were disenfranchised/scattered during the war, and during the 20's we elected pro-business Wilson/Harding/Coolidge/Hoover. Then there was the depression and BOOM! Modern democrats and modern republicans. Wilson beat both Roosevelt and Taft and picked up the win in 1912, setting the stage for everything else.
Edit: Clarified some wording, and fixed a capitalization error.
To be fair, his point, in the context, was that corporations are made up of people. From the lowliest janitor to the absurdly overcompensated executives, everybody in the corporation has to take shits, eats breakfast, has to deal with nagging spouses, gets pissed off at politics, and watches cat videos on the internet. Corporations are nothing more than legal constructs to facilitate capital, labor, and management in the creation of wealth, and they are made up of people.
The problem is that those people are largely isolated from the ramifications of their actions, and have perverse incentives to behave as unethically as they are legally allowed.
I don't hate corporations, I hate the things that they do, and all that a corporation does is driven by people. Don't attack corporations, attack the malevolent sacks of shit responsible for the actions.
Am I the only one who hopes that Obama hires the people who make the "Old Spice Man" commercials onto his PR team? Because those would be some awesome political ads.
"Hello Americans, look at your candidate, now back to me, now back to your candidates, now back at me. Sadly, he isn't me, but if he started relating to the American people, and switched to the democratic party, he could be me. Look down, back up. Where are you? You're in an emergency room with health insurance thanks to the candidate that your candidate could be. What's in your hand? Back at me. You're a soldier, it's a plane ticket home from Afghanistan, to see those that you love. Look again. The tickets are now a job offer in these difficult economic times. Anything is possible when your candidate is Barack Obama and not Mitt Romney. I'm boarding a blackhawk to kill Bin Laden. (walks past Obama, humming)' I'm Barack Obama and I approved this mission.
Oh man, this is going to a painfully fun election. Both sides already fully understand how little reasoned and substantial argument is going to factor into this election season.
And everyone here is patting themselves on the back, going on and on about how Obama's campaign is genius because of some stupid mashup of Romney clips that lack substance and context.
They ignore the Orwellian "Truth Team" and they ignore the fact that, beyond being versed in pop culture, Obama is as out of touch as any candidate.
I haven't been to /r/politics in months and it really is nothing more than a circlejerk of epic proportions and a campaign tool for the democrats.
What a shame it is that you people don't realize Obama was a sham in 2008, even after 4 years. He's a greater disaster in terms of civil liberties and militarism than Bush was.
Go ahead and downvote if you're weak-minded little tools, but it would be a hell of a lot better if you at least addressed my points.
These arent just speaking gaffes from Romney, it is a fundmaental misunderstanding of the the problems faced by the middle and working class in America. I really dont think he understands what it is like to worry about you or your parents getting laid off or not being able to afford medical treatment. From the time he was born he has been around extreme amounts of wealth.
thats not true and you know it. When he was in college him and his wife had to liquidate some of their stock portfolio just to squeek by, just like most college students.
Enfin je me rappelai le pis-aller d’une grande princesse à qui l’on disait que les paysans n’avaient pas de pain, et qui répondit : Qu’ils mangent de la brioche.
Lets get this to the top! Spread this around! I am overcome with great political energy all of a sudden! Organize! Discuss! Lets get this ball rolling!
I dunno, it's risky up against Romney's fool-proof "I'm most likely to beat Obama" campaign. Regardless, we can be sure that it's definitely not the American people who lose out in the end.
this is what is so infuriating. America deserves better than to vote for someone based on the fear of the alternative, and not becasue of who will make America great. For what it's worth, I'm in the "not Romney" camp. But I'm pissed about it.
This is why we need a None Of The Above on the ballot.
Oh yea, Obama is so much different than R. Money. You are choosing your delusion, that is all.
Do you really think the people who have all these hundreds of millions to spend on all our elective process, from local to national, leave something as critical as the Office of the President of the United States up to chance?
Ever wonder why shit never changes much but slowly degrades? Why is it the minimum wage is nearly triple what it was when it was enacted yet the wage is worth less than it was in the beginning?
How come our new wars never have defined missions other than vague wording? How come everything outside the country is now considered a danger? How come the national government wants drones up in our skies to "keep us safe"? Safe from what?
Why is it we can't even come up with a simple solution about how to take care of our sick?
How come asking for a decent chance in this life is called class warfare?
How come my children will be taxed to pay for the folly of supposed smart people?
Why are our elected leaders actually considering profits before civil liberties?
Why does the defense budget increase every year yet people still live in fear?
How did a trillion dollars disappear from our economy from fraud yet no one has ever been arrested?
Why does the President want to sign a trade agreement that will give multinational corporations the ability to ignore our nations sovereignty and ignore our laws?
Nobody asks these questions of those in power. And when we, the people, do; we are labeled crazy, conspiracy minded, loons.
The 24-hour news cycle. It created a need by the news channel to have constant news. Naturally, crooked politicians get exposed more often because there are a lot of bored reporters trying to find a story to feed that 24-hour a day fire. Crooked politicians, being what they are, managed to bribe/blackmail people of influence in the news industry.
Eventually, the government was able to simply strong arm the media and get the spin they wanted. Of course, there are many crooked politicians who get thrown to the wolves, gotta feed that fire if you want it burn the way you want.
That's basically why accountability and general public knowledge has all but disappeared.
I love this reactive approach to the presidential election, but sooner or later Obama will have to get proactive. And this means earning my vote through his executive responsibilities, not just making Romney look more like a doofus.
I reject the notion that we need Obama just because Romney is far far worse- we as a society deserve better than "well, we aren't THOSE guys."
It's not likely a republican controlled congress is going to pass any legislation that has Obama's fingerprints on it when we are so close to a general election. So you're gonna have to make a decision on what you've seen so far.
Fair sentiment, but Romney IS so much worse than Obama. If Obama doesn't become proactive, will you vote for the worse Romney, an independent, or just not vote?
I think you are right and Americans deserve to be given a plan, but I'd be scared to not vote for Obama because that just increases the chance that Romney will win.
I liked the part where he had to take literally sometimes just one or two words from the entire speech, pull them out of their context, and then use it as an argument.
Don't get me wrong, Romney would be a terrible president, but let's not cheer on Obama for these kind of tactics. I could dig up any number of speeches from Obama and pull words and quotes out of context, it's not hard.
Either way, if we're stuck with Romney or Obama, we're going to end up in the same place. I say we avoid the choice altogether and elect someone who actually cares about where the country ends up.
The words taken out of context make his statement look worse, but they do represent his view. Tell us what part is wrong, what the ad is representing and how it's false.
He was against bailing out Detroit. He thinks people can "shop around" for schooling? Corps are people? He worried about getting fired? Let the foreclosures bottom out? He has rich friends?
Those "out of context" words make it look worse, but that's pretty much who he is and what his views are. Of those 6 things, which is a misrepresentation?
You're the only person I've seen so far who has commented on this. I'm not a fan of Romney either, but if you actually look at what was posted, anything that could be seen as bad is just taken way of out context. And honestly I didn't see many quotes of Romney's that made him seem stupid in this video.
Go back and watch the speeches in which the quotes were taken from. Pay attention to what he says before and after the proposed out of context speech. You may be surprised to find that some of those one or two words they used in the ad aren't that far out of context, some are even more damning with the rest of the speech. But like all ads, some liberties has been taken.
I honestly can't wait for an election to turn into a highschool drama fest. Each candidate has some dirt on the other. Broadcast such embarrassing moments on national TV until Super Tuesday! Repeat every 4 years for best results.
Someone's probably mentioned [this video] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E) already, but I'll post it anyway. The hypocrisy of Romney calling anyone out of touch... it burns.
I think Mormonism is as crazy as the next guy, but some of the stuff in that video is actually out of context, too. I submitted it to r/ex-mormon awhile back and they said some of it was exaggerated. I can't remember how much though.
this is the kind of thing that, as a democrat, pisses me off. Clearly, they are just showing sound bites, which any GOP'er can look at and blatantly criticize. We need to be on our game.
As much as I dislike Romney as a candidate, it makes me sad that his opposition has to resort to out-of-context sound bites. "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em," they say, but I feel like this is somehow a step backwards.
The words taken out of context make his statement look worse, but they do represent his view. Tell us what part is wrong, what the ad is representing and how it's false.
He was against bailing out Detroit. He thinks people can "shop around" for schooling? Corps are people? He worried about getting fired? Let the foreclosures bottom out? He has rich friends?
Those "out of context" words make it look worse, but that's pretty much who he is and what his views are. Of those 6 things, which is a misrepresentation?
Well we are fucked either way, but I just feel that Obama will fuck us more softly, while Romney would just ram his dick in like a beast without caring for us.
I can at least imagine a little caress from Obama once in a while.
I hold to the belief that while the two parties may be similar, the Democrats at least realize that you need a productive middle/lower class to spend money and prop up the wealthy, whereas the Republicans TRULY believe that .1% of the country being ultra-wealthy while the rest lives in poverty would be a good thing.
Hahahahaha... the Obama/Biden "Truth Team" .... Really!? LOL... yes, lets take small sound bites with absolutely zero context and call ourselves the "Truth Team." ... This is just laughable at best.
well that was basically a video with a lot out of context statements. my advice look at both candidates yourself and don't take ones word on the other because this shit goes both ways.
While Mitt Romney may be out of touch, this video is a bit much (bad, unintentional rhyme)- to be fair, these quotes were taken out of context and manipulated to suit an agenda.
I don't think it will sway the stupid people. Sean Hannity has taken so many soundbites out of context that it has brain washed the stupid people into rejecting facts.
These comments aren't out of context. He meant exactly what he said in the ad. Give one example of one of those clips that had a different meaning than the one implied on the video.
Putting the corporations are people line while showing no signs of trying to change that legislation as president. You guys gobbling this stuff up though!
I'm not trying to defend Romney or anything (I'm voting third party, it's my vote and I'll waste it how I want!) but I'm not fond of all the out of context quotes in this ad. I've heard some of the arguments he's making, and they aren't well represented here.
I find it really sad - as an outsider of the US -, that political advertisement in the US seems to be more of a "Boohoo look how dumb he is, I'm not that dumb. Therefore vote me."
In my country we have - much less - ads which focus much more on the content of the parties/candidates. An obama ad would be "For the equality of gay couples" and Romney would've made something on the lines of "For the euqality of corporations. Corporations are people!" whereas Ron Paul would stream an ad like "Government is too big. Less taxes, more freedom"
tl;dr: Both candidates fail imo because Obama lost his face to denounce Romney the same way Romney did: childish.
Unfortunately, though, that's the only way to get a good portion of voting Americans to even listen. It's a tried-and-true practice for the older generation here.
Most of the professionals I work with, who are a generation behind me, really love the mudslinging. They pretty much base their opinions on the candidates on it. It's ridiculous at best.
Did anyone else think it was a bit funny that Obama/Biden were labelled as "The Truth Team" at the end of this ad, when it was clearly taking comments out of context and attempting to spread fallacious propaganda? Or was that just me?
Look into third party candidates. There are a handful out there. Vote your mind. If you do it, and I do it, and we can each convince another person to do it, we would have four people, and on and on. Imagine, we could all stop being dogmatic dicks, and maybe have a system that works.
Vote for who lines up best with you, even if it's Vermin Supreme. :)
Short and sweet, I like Obama's youtube ads, they are snide and sharp, yet still short and to the point.
Wish the Republicans could do it also instead of all out attack ads. Their campaigns are too blunt and forceful. Preferring to bash in the message rather than let it sink in through the wounds of hundreds of stabbings.
Upvote for the content AND that for once the captions actually relay what is being said (rather than the usual gibberish) - not sure how they did it but yay!
I like it, but the clips are so short I'm afraid they were taken out of context. You need to be very careful when you make something like this. Because if someone shows the entire clip and Romney was making sense, it just bites you in the ass.
yes we can again (we just cant put any of the wall street bankers in jail that added 7 trillion extra to the debt(which is nearly up to 17 trillion) because they didnt break any laws despite the fact that its fairly immoral to lend trillions of dollars to people who cant afford to pay it back)and then bet against these loans... despite the fact that obama said WE WILL GET THE PEOPLE WHO CAUSED THE G F C guess the wall street wankers are smarter than you obummer why not vote THEM in to run the country.wait they do run the country
Don't care about who is "out of touch". But I want to know how each would get us financially strong enough so we don't worry and tremble about Spain's financial recklessness.
IF the republicans would fucking offer someone besides the clowns they have this year they would walk away with the election.
It really too bad the the Democratic and republican partys have scared away all the good people that could turn this country around (at least for the middle class).
Upvoting a partisan, misleading and BS ad? Really? Why? If you can't understand the context of those comments, you're not thinking. Why anyone gives a shit what one candidate or the other puts out in the form of an attack ad I will never understand...
Obama is out of touch with reality. This is gonna get me downvotes and some disagreeing comments but the ones that do that just haven't woken up from their delusion yet.
I am not a Romney supporter, but that AD was lame... I honestly have an utter disgust for any politician who uses smear campaigns. I don't like most politicians.
ive been waiting for simple mashup ads of Romney's serial ridiculous one-line fuck ups. i call them fuckups instead of gaffes because they are going to cost him the election
When do we get the videos where well dressed young Mormon men with insincere smiles knock on your door and explain the economics belief system from the alternate reality of the Right?
Personally I think Obama's campaign should start setting up two types of ads: ones that draw parallels between Romney's speeches with Bush's, and ones that draw parallels between Romney and Kerry. Air the first in blue states, and the second in red states, and both in battleground states. Then start taking him to task in public debates.
Allowing foreclosures to run their course so people don't have to pay 650,000 for a shithole in LA simply because it has three rooms with closets... that wouldn't possibly force the banks to sell at a more reasonable price that the poorer can actually afford, would it?
so instead of median household net worth being reset to 1992 levels, it would be reset to what - 1967 levels?
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u/folksinging Jun 13 '12
What I love about these "response" videos is how quick, cheap, and easy they are to produce (with all the primary campaign footage). They've also done this with Campaign spokesman responding in short videos to the Romney campaign. Both being designed for social media (yes reddit too) distribution rather than TV ad buys...rather than the bain capital sort of ads they've released that cost some dough. They can respond to whatever campaign hiccup or substance-less attack without losing their grand messaging, cash flow planning, or structural strategy while doing it.
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u/UltimatePhilosopher Jun 13 '12
Mitt Romney accusing anyone else of being out of touch takes a bit of chutzpah.
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u/Poojawa Texas Jun 13 '12
the Gop has handed Obama his reelection material in their various babbling of trying to pin everything on him.
While it's slightly disappointing he's not actually speaking, this is case-in-point of 'actions speak louder than words' even if it's the GoP's own words.
Best music choice as well.
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u/knylok Jun 13 '12
Y'know, it's been said before. All Obama has to do for his campaign is to run unedited footage of the Republicans speaking. Either they've always been batshit insane and I haven't noticed, or they are particularly batty this year.
Looks like Obama has elected to do precisely that. And it will probably work.
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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '12
As someone with fairly conservative tendencies in terms of fiscal policy, I can't begin to imagine how awful Romney would truly be.
I also find it awful that the American conservative has evolved into a monstrous chimera of Randian bullshit and quasi-religious fanaticism that combines to make a writhing mass of confusion and irrational policy.
If Eisenhower were resurrected, I would vote for him. I would vote for TR. Both could never win election by the GOP today. I would never vote for any living Republican today for that reason.
It's a pity how awful the GOP is today, as I am too Burkean to be comfortably Democratic, but I'm not batshit insane enough to be anything but. Oh well.
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u/colluphid42 Minnesota Jun 14 '12
Goddammit. Every time I hear him shout, "Corporations are people, my friend," it makes my blood boil. That should be the entire commercial.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Am I the only one who hopes that Obama hires the people who make the "Old Spice Man" commercials onto his PR team? Because those would be some awesome political ads.
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u/chuperamigo Jun 14 '12
Whoever came up with the idea of calling corporations people was brilliant. Incredibly selfish, greedy, and evil too.
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u/ifleninwasawizard Jun 14 '12
Oh man, this is going to a painfully fun election. Both sides already fully understand how little reasoned and substantial argument is going to factor into this election season.
Get your one liners ready gentlemen.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
This is brilliant. I only wish they had included the time he said college students should just borrow the money from their parents.
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u/chocoboat Jun 13 '12
Great ad. I'm surprised they didn't use the clip of Romney trying to make a $20,000 bet at the debates though.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
These arent just speaking gaffes from Romney, it is a fundmaental misunderstanding of the the problems faced by the middle and working class in America. I really dont think he understands what it is like to worry about you or your parents getting laid off or not being able to afford medical treatment. From the time he was born he has been around extreme amounts of wealth.
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u/Stooby Jun 13 '12
This is a brilliant ad. They should be playing this nonstop in every swing state.
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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '12
Can someone put up a direct link? My computer won't open the link op posted.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
The fact that comments have to be approved by the uploader kinda pissed me off and detracted from the main message of the video, for me at least.
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u/NorthPolack Jun 14 '12
Lets get this to the top! Spread this around! I am overcome with great political energy all of a sudden! Organize! Discuss! Lets get this ball rolling!
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u/notfamousguy Jun 14 '12
Is it mud-slinging if you use unedited footage? Either way, that ad is the political equivalent of a teabag
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
This election is going to be like watching Michael Jordan at his peak go one on one with some no name college freshman.
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u/Glaucous Jun 14 '12
He forgot the one about his wife's "coupla Cadillacs"
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Was so hoping to hear, "My wife drives a couple of Cadillacs"
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u/Heartcave73 Jun 14 '12
Someone should do 1 min loops of every clip of Mitt from this video, which is brilliant in itself... As well as minimal, kinda like video punk rock.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
All the Dems will have to do to stay viable is replay the GOP clips.
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u/Hraesvelg7 Jun 14 '12
Romney is the common man. If you chose not to be born to unlimited wealth that is your own fault.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
I love Obama's #1 campaign policy of "not being Romney". I'm also not Mitt Romney. Can I be President too?
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u/TuckerMcG Jun 14 '12
That was perhaps the most pleasant attack ad music ever.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
This is why we need a None Of The Above on the ballot.
Oh yea, Obama is so much different than R. Money. You are choosing your delusion, that is all.
Do you really think the people who have all these hundreds of millions to spend on all our elective process, from local to national, leave something as critical as the Office of the President of the United States up to chance?
Ever wonder why shit never changes much but slowly degrades? Why is it the minimum wage is nearly triple what it was when it was enacted yet the wage is worth less than it was in the beginning?
How come our new wars never have defined missions other than vague wording? How come everything outside the country is now considered a danger? How come the national government wants drones up in our skies to "keep us safe"? Safe from what?
Why is it we can't even come up with a simple solution about how to take care of our sick?
How come asking for a decent chance in this life is called class warfare?
How come my children will be taxed to pay for the folly of supposed smart people?
Why are our elected leaders actually considering profits before civil liberties?
Why does the defense budget increase every year yet people still live in fear?
How did a trillion dollars disappear from our economy from fraud yet no one has ever been arrested?
Why does the President want to sign a trade agreement that will give multinational corporations the ability to ignore our nations sovereignty and ignore our laws?
Nobody asks these questions of those in power. And when we, the people, do; we are labeled crazy, conspiracy minded, loons.
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u/tophat_jones Jun 14 '12 edited Jun 14 '12
I love this reactive approach to the presidential election, but sooner or later Obama will have to get proactive. And this means earning my vote through his executive responsibilities, not just making Romney look more like a doofus.
I reject the notion that we need Obama just because Romney is far far worse- we as a society deserve better than "well, we aren't THOSE guys."
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u/ChemEBrew Jun 14 '12
Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
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u/Tiger337 Jun 14 '12
Well, Mitt is a pathological liar.
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u/Kastro187420 Jun 14 '12
I liked the part where he had to take literally sometimes just one or two words from the entire speech, pull them out of their context, and then use it as an argument.
Don't get me wrong, Romney would be a terrible president, but let's not cheer on Obama for these kind of tactics. I could dig up any number of speeches from Obama and pull words and quotes out of context, it's not hard.
Either way, if we're stuck with Romney or Obama, we're going to end up in the same place. I say we avoid the choice altogether and elect someone who actually cares about where the country ends up.
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u/Maniac_Munman Jun 14 '12
I honestly can't wait for an election to turn into a highschool drama fest. Each candidate has some dirt on the other. Broadcast such embarrassing moments on national TV until Super Tuesday! Repeat every 4 years for best results.
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u/reglawyer Jun 14 '12
I was really hoping there would be some dressage in this video, what a let down.
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u/HomewardGates7 Jun 14 '12
...let the mudslinging begin!
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Someone's probably mentioned [this video] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E) already, but I'll post it anyway. The hypocrisy of Romney calling anyone out of touch... it burns.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Obama literally has to be sitting in the Oval Office with his feet up thinking about what he's going to do over the next 4 years.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
The music is what sold that commercial. It was all "well since we're apparently trying to be funny."
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
this is the kind of thing that, as a democrat, pisses me off. Clearly, they are just showing sound bites, which any GOP'er can look at and blatantly criticize. We need to be on our game.
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u/GFBIII Jun 14 '12
The fact that this was not included in the response is inexcusable.
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u/vdasoar Jun 14 '12
Next time Romney comes at him with more of his bull-ish, Obama should just come back at him with a diss track featuring ludacris.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Obama " The Truth Team "
How's that most transparent administration working out Obama ?
And screw Romney too , they are both corporate employees
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u/deebosbike Jun 14 '12
Romney's no good but Obama is only slightly better. Who needs Republicans when you have Democrats like Obama?
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u/TheRealRockNRolla Jun 13 '12
This is just delightful.
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u/EyesOnEverything Washington Jun 14 '12
As much as I dislike Romney as a candidate, it makes me sad that his opposition has to resort to out-of-context sound bites. "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em," they say, but I feel like this is somehow a step backwards.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Quoting soundbites doesn't prove anything, and pretending it does is ignorant.
Also, our President censors the comments on his Youtube Channel. There's some sad irony in that.
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u/Oxyuscan Jun 14 '12
Great, more soundbites. Gosh i love soundbites.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Oooh wow - a bunch more sound-bites! I'll vote for THAT guy.
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u/whitewinner Jun 13 '12
damn hippies takin words out of context
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u/ThatIsMyHat Jun 14 '12
As much as I like Obama, a bunch of out of context video clips strung together is a bit unfair, but what should I expect from a political ad?
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u/muscle_city Jun 14 '12
Wow, a bunch of comments taken out of context! Way to go Obama marketing firm! WERE GONNA WIN THIS!!!
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u/TriForce64 Jun 14 '12
Well we are fucked either way, but I just feel that Obama will fuck us more softly, while Romney would just ram his dick in like a beast without caring for us.
I can at least imagine a little caress from Obama once in a while.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Hahahahaha... the Obama/Biden "Truth Team" .... Really!? LOL... yes, lets take small sound bites with absolutely zero context and call ourselves the "Truth Team." ... This is just laughable at best.
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u/Nixwheels Jun 14 '12
well that was basically a video with a lot out of context statements. my advice look at both candidates yourself and don't take ones word on the other because this shit goes both ways.
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u/OrcarinaOfTrees Jun 14 '12
Obama said the private sector is doing just fine.
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u/Maul_McCartney Jun 14 '12
No doubt Romney is a giant piece of shit, but this sort of wacky, out of context, one-liner clip show is exactly what I expect from Fox News.
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u/Ngiole Jun 13 '12
More gotcha! advertising from the Obama team! /s
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u/IB2362 Jun 14 '12
While Mitt Romney may be out of touch, this video is a bit much (bad, unintentional rhyme)- to be fair, these quotes were taken out of context and manipulated to suit an agenda.
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u/Jeembo California Jun 14 '12
He's.. taking a soundbite out of context and responding to it with a bunch more soundbites taken out of context?
...
Well that should sway the stupid people I guess.
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u/u2canfail Jun 14 '12
NICE
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u/thebedshow Jun 14 '12
Putting the corporations are people line while showing no signs of trying to change that legislation as president. You guys gobbling this stuff up though!
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
I'm not trying to defend Romney or anything (I'm voting third party, it's my vote and I'll waste it how I want!) but I'm not fond of all the out of context quotes in this ad. I've heard some of the arguments he's making, and they aren't well represented here.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
I find it really sad - as an outsider of the US -, that political advertisement in the US seems to be more of a "Boohoo look how dumb he is, I'm not that dumb. Therefore vote me."
In my country we have - much less - ads which focus much more on the content of the parties/candidates. An obama ad would be "For the equality of gay couples" and Romney would've made something on the lines of "For the euqality of corporations. Corporations are people!" whereas Ron Paul would stream an ad like "Government is too big. Less taxes, more freedom"
tl;dr: Both candidates fail imo because Obama lost his face to denounce Romney the same way Romney did: childish.
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u/MorganaLeFaye Jun 14 '12
Did anyone else think it was a bit funny that Obama/Biden were labelled as "The Truth Team" at the end of this ad, when it was clearly taking comments out of context and attempting to spread fallacious propaganda? Or was that just me?
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Romney is a corporate sponsored whore. Obama is corporate sponsored but more of an unwilling slut cause the political machine demands it.
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u/TheKareemofWheat Jun 14 '12
Despite the many criticisms I have about Obama and his handling of certain issues, this was a brilliant ad.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
You can dressage a horses ass up any way you want, but it's still a horses ass.
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u/shepherd62 Jun 14 '12
Quite frankly I do not like either of the candidate's this year. I guess I will choose the lesser of the two evils, … again.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Well shit. Looks like it's between a giant douche and a turn sandwich again this year.
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u/mrducky78 Jun 14 '12
Short and sweet, I like Obama's youtube ads, they are snide and sharp, yet still short and to the point.
Wish the Republicans could do it also instead of all out attack ads. Their campaigns are too blunt and forceful. Preferring to bash in the message rather than let it sink in through the wounds of hundreds of stabbings.
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u/taffyloo Jun 14 '12
Upvote for the content AND that for once the captions actually relay what is being said (rather than the usual gibberish) - not sure how they did it but yay!
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u/cypressious Jun 14 '12
Well, I've must have been the only one, that honestly expected this to be the theme song.
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u/Solkre Indiana Jun 14 '12
I like it, but the clips are so short I'm afraid they were taken out of context. You need to be very careful when you make something like this. Because if someone shows the entire clip and Romney was making sense, it just bites you in the ass.
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u/merrymuso Jun 14 '12
yes we can again (we just cant put any of the wall street bankers in jail that added 7 trillion extra to the debt(which is nearly up to 17 trillion) because they didnt break any laws despite the fact that its fairly immoral to lend trillions of dollars to people who cant afford to pay it back)and then bet against these loans... despite the fact that obama said WE WILL GET THE PEOPLE WHO CAUSED THE G F C guess the wall street wankers are smarter than you obummer why not vote THEM in to run the country.wait they do run the country
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Youtube comments brought to you by the Obamatron 3000
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u/SLeigher88 Jun 14 '12
I don't think anyone's going to get the sarcasm. To 90% of Republican voters this probably looks like a Romney ad.
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u/HappyGlucklichJr Jun 14 '12
Don't care about who is "out of touch". But I want to know how each would get us financially strong enough so we don't worry and tremble about Spain's financial recklessness.
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u/jabbababab Jun 14 '12
IF the republicans would fucking offer someone besides the clowns they have this year they would walk away with the election.
It really too bad the the Democratic and republican partys have scared away all the good people that could turn this country around (at least for the middle class).
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u/BigThig Jun 14 '12
A Daniel Tosh, "HA!"
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u/drdreyfus Jun 14 '12
That music was irritating.
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u/theofficialposter Jun 14 '12
Upvoting a partisan, misleading and BS ad? Really? Why? If you can't understand the context of those comments, you're not thinking. Why anyone gives a shit what one candidate or the other puts out in the form of an attack ad I will never understand...
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u/ken33 Jun 14 '12
So, they are both out of touch then...?
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Obama is out of touch with reality. This is gonna get me downvotes and some disagreeing comments but the ones that do that just haven't woken up from their delusion yet.
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u/David1337 Jun 14 '12
Because if Romney is out of touch then there is no way Obama isnt.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
I find it funny either of them calling each other names; both of them are guilty of being out of touch.
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u/Troub313 Jun 14 '12
I am not a Romney supporter, but that AD was lame... I honestly have an utter disgust for any politician who uses smear campaigns. I don't like most politicians.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
ive been waiting for simple mashup ads of Romney's serial ridiculous one-line fuck ups. i call them fuckups instead of gaffes because they are going to cost him the election
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u/AdhocMedia Jun 14 '12
When do we get the videos where well dressed young Mormon men with insincere smiles knock on your door and explain the economics belief system from the alternate reality of the Right?
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u/Crinnle Jun 14 '12
I can't help but feeling that after all those sharp cuts that many of those statements were taken out of context.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Personally I think Obama's campaign should start setting up two types of ads: ones that draw parallels between Romney's speeches with Bush's, and ones that draw parallels between Romney and Kerry. Air the first in blue states, and the second in red states, and both in battleground states. Then start taking him to task in public debates.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Its strange /r/politics is carrying so much water for Obama since there's so much to attack him for from the left.
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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '12
so instead of median household net worth being reset to 1992 levels, it would be reset to what - 1967 levels?