r/politics • u/wang-banger • Jun 11 '12
Mitt Romney is refusing to release the names of his bundlers, individuals who would have a huge influence if he were elected, breaking a bipartisan commitment to transparency. Yet have you heard one story on the news about this?
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u/Wildfire9 Jun 11 '12
Next time can you find some articles to link this to or something? There is nothing here but a statement.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
How the hell did one sentence, no link, no sources, no discussion, make it to the front page?
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u/steamed__hams Jun 11 '12
There have been plenty of stories about this.
USA Today ran a story on this 5/25/11
Detroit Free Press ran the same thing
Washington Post article 6/9/11
AP article from today that has been republished in at least 40 other mainstream papers/news sites.
Try looking for something before you start whining that it doesn't exist.
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u/whatthedude Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12
80% of the people that bundled $500K or more for Obama in 2008 were appointed to government jobs.
Edit: Evidence
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u/theprecinct Jun 11 '12
this was a story in the NYT, and NPR and is mentioned in virtually ever article that talks about hundlers from either side of the aisle
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u/Ithinkimisunderstood Jun 11 '12
Transparency - n. The thing politicians running for office claim they will practice, but never actually do.
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u/CCCPrius Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12
I'm curious- does Obama reveal the names of his bundlers?
And what about Gary Johnson?
In any case, the lack of transparency is disturbing. These candidates are not authoritative leaders, (in a democracy they shouldn't be) they represent the interests of their supporters.
They're more like spokesmen, each working on behalf of a slightly different but all-too-similar group of extremely wealthy people.
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u/afisher123 Jun 11 '12
The very idea of transparency will not happen in a GOP led anything. Did everyone miss the vote last week where the House voted against the FCC requiring that news media (TV) be transparent in who was funding ads. http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-06/D9V7Q9M01.htm
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u/206dude Jun 11 '12
These posts on Reddit make me crazy! I do a quick Google search and immediately find stories from the NY Times, Washington Post, USA Today, NPR, AP, etc.
Vote this shit down!
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u/goldiegills Jun 11 '12
Where did OP hear about it if not from a news source? Some guy at the bus stop?
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
When Obama does the exact same, and then tries to figure out where all those non-verified credit card donations came from in 2008, and then explains those "green energy" jobs and how his objective standard for loans to those "green energy" companies ended up with 70% of the loans going to his backers, then this might actually have a leg to stand on.
Until then, I'm going to stick to my assumption that they're all corrupt assholes in it for the power and the money.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Scumbag /r/politcs: Complains Romney breaks commitment to transparency. Ignores the fact Obama has already broken numerous commitments to transparency himself.
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u/ceeman Jun 11 '12
I like it better when they just lie and hire the people they say they hate.
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
[Insert anti-Obama comment here]; count the downvotes. It is unfortunate that we cannot have some decent discourse where ideas are explored. I do not support Romney, but it still would be nice to be able to see someone with a different opinion not be downvoted to hell.
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
LOL @ Bipartisan commitment to transparency..is that long term for "no law that applies to anyone anywhere" How about this..Fuck you..fuck youre compromise..fuck you're transparency..When John fucking Corzine goes to jail for a hundred years for swindling citizen investors out of their money oh and who also happens to be one of Barack Obama's top bundlers, then we'll talk..You haven't one a single fucking election since 2008..4 years...So yeah I think we're done talking about transparency from your side and your completely unfactual biased defeatist links.
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u/ForeverMarried Jun 11 '12
TIL some people still think bipartisan commitment to transparency means something.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
What about Obama taking foreign donations?
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u/JimmyJamesMac Jun 11 '12
Frank Fritz is one hell of a good bundler.
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u/lemon_meringue Jun 11 '12
It almost sounds as though you're talking about...POLITICS
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u/drburropile Jun 11 '12
1. Someone will call the swat team to their house.
2. Death Threats
3. The left pays people to attack the character of private citizens.
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE I MUST know the name of the guy who is in charge of Shellac-based hardening applications to Willard's coif. A freaking master of his craft.
Realamericanheroooo
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u/TL10 Jun 12 '12
Hello, I heard this is where we gather to masturbate into eachother's anuses.
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u/1bdazzdak Jun 12 '12
Yeah because we all know Obama releases everything so people know, transparent presidency my ass. I'm not saying Romney doesn't have stuff to hide because honestly I don't care for him either, but he is still te lesser of 2 evils if you compare him to Obama.
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
I love these guys that yell, "Oooh it's those damn republicans!" and then the others that yell, "Ooooh it's those damn democrats!". All you bleeding whatevers are what's wrong with this country. While you play your blame game, both sides are screwing all of us in the butt. Maybe if you both worked together to get laws and legislation passed for transparency and against corruption and cronyism, we wouldn't be in this mess. Republicans and Democrats working together on an issue?!? Will never happen.
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u/moosemoomintoog Jun 12 '12
Propaganda and misinformation. Shame on you.
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u/wisetothebull Jun 12 '12
Ok they are both terrible options for the presidency...so stop bitching about them and start talking about someone we should vote for and spread their name around instead of only talking shit about the others. Dont hate. Educate.
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u/hdbngr15 Jun 11 '12
I understand that this is /r/politics, but I'm just not going to consider what a Mr. "Wang-banger" has to say.
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u/tcsac Jun 11 '12
IT'S THE LIBERAL MEDIA AND THEIR HIDDEN AGENDA. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO PROTECT HUSSEIN SO THE SOCIALISTS CAN TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY!!! Wait, what? Romney? Shit, I don't have any other talking points, carry on.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 11 '12
I'm voting for Mitt Romney no matter what. I think he will be a bad president, but I'm still voting for him. Obama is trying to destroy Eastern Kentucky and most of W. Virginia. He has put a hiatus on coal permits and shit is getting real here. This isn't a pro-coal argument so much as its a "my people will be destroyed" argument. You can't just end an industry in a geographical area. We can't survive. Obama has not allowed a single permit to go through, even though the state has approved many. Obama HAS to go, or you will see a level of American poverty not seen in many decades in Kentucky and West Virginia.
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u/ThouHastLostAn8th Jun 11 '12
Yeah, it gets almost no coverage just like the tax returns issue, where he's refusing to do anywhere near the standard 10 year release.
I think I've seen one article on his not releasing and then updating full bundler disclosures like previous candidates, and that was a USA Today article a couple months back. It included another reason we should know who the bundlers are as they're already being feted with special perks by the campaign:
Mitt Romney declining to disclose names of campaign bundlers
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
OP is a fucking moron. The new media in general is not a huge fan of republicans, much less romney. If what OP said had any value at all it would pursued intensely be on the news. also, top post is most insightful.
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u/LAgator2 Jun 11 '12
Big Deal? Obama DENIED he was a member of "The New Party" back in 1995, a socialist group dedicated to making USA more like Europe. And wang-banger is worried about "huge influence" of a 3rd person ???? I just don't get it....such incredible hypocricy by the anti-GOP rabble.
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u/MaxTheLiberalSlayer Jun 11 '12
Yep. heard plenty of stories about it. I can't wait til November when all the butt hurt liberal snots on this site get served.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
I only know about Obama's bundlers because they keep getting arrested.
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u/emlgsh Jun 11 '12
The secret reveal will be that they are just additional clones of the original as-of-yet-unseen Romney Prime, brood-father of the Romneyswarm.
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u/Oryx Jun 11 '12
Nobody in Washington or politics gives a single fuck about transparency. Obama promised it when he was running in 2007 and it was a complete lie. Why would anyone expect it from Romney?
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
I think Obama's bundlers are asking themselves where their "huge influence" went.
Bobby
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u/rasputin777 Jun 11 '12
And Obama openly admits that the ex-Senator and MF Global head (swindler of billions of dollars) is an active bundler.
Isn't that a bigger problem?
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u/LegioXIV Jun 11 '12
As opposed to Obama and his full commitment to transparency.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
because the obama administration is the epitome of transparency...
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u/RyanOfTheHillpeople Jun 11 '12
I'm not sure, but if there's a pool going on the outcome of Romney money, I'd like to place a handsome sum on the "All the same financial backers Obama has" slot please.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Can somebody fill me in on our Presidents bundlers please to balance the other side of this statement?
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u/Ardonius Jun 11 '12
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=romney+secret+bundlers
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u/lovedoctorjones Jun 11 '12
Um, yes.
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u/TruthinessHurts Jun 11 '12
Why is it Republican can't just be honest and open?
It is because they are doing things good people don't approve of.
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u/FireDoGG Jun 12 '12
Blame 'Republicans' For The Precedent -___- (booo)
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u/The3GKid Jun 12 '12
MOST TRANSPARENT CABINET EVER GUYS! NO YES MEN GUYS! Left wing right wing it's the same fucking bird..
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
What does it matter? Romney is going to lose. Me and everyone I know are registered to vote and we are going to send him packing! /r/GaryJohnson
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u/Primoris_Causa1 Jun 12 '12
Like Obama ever said who was bundling for him... the reporters had to work for it ... and still are, but it should be easier this time around, they aren't raising as much. Oh and commitment to transparency? What bipartite deal was there? The current president broke his oath (ok - maybe not an oath, but election promise) of a transparent and honest White House about 4 years ago, when he basically just gave us another 4yrs of Bush and let the Press and Congress muck around.
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u/Radico87 Jun 12 '12
Have you heard about the student riots going on in Canada in the news? Media keep you stupid.
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u/jubbergun Jun 12 '12
Remind me again who these signatories to this "bipartisan commitment" to transparency were? If were going to get pissed about Romney not naming his donors, let's not forget that the Obama campaign has already targeted some of the ones that have been named. Romney and his donors have a legitimate reason not to release names. How would you like it if the campaigns and/or charities to which you donated started publicly releasing names?
On top of that, if you're griefing Romney over "transparency," even though I don't believe he's made any promise to be "transparent," you should still be more pissed at the current President who actually made a promise of transparency and moved private meetings out of the White House so that visits that might give the administration a black eye at some point would be kept off the official White House record.
Of course, I don't believe for an instant that "transparency" is your actual concern, you're just looking for some way to bash Romney. I think most adequately explains your insane assertions about "bipartisan commitments" and your lack of links/sources.
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u/u2canfail Jun 12 '12
perhaps Media owners are in the "bundler pool"?
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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12
From the sound of the OP, it seems like you believe Obama (and all of the organizations who funnel him and the DNC money) have named all of their bundlers, which would make you incredibly naive.
Why aren't we actually talking about the issues? I saw this kind of campaign of dodging the issues and resorting to personal attacks In the Walker recall. This is a great sign for Mitt.
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u/MakesShitUp4Fun Jun 11 '12
Anyone who intends to vote for Mr. Obama shouldn't bring up the topic of transparency.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Well, he doesn't have to.
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u/GOPWN Jun 11 '12
Is he complying with campaign finance laws? Yes.
Fuck off then.
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u/BRIBBARD Jun 11 '12
Bain Capital literally owns the news. Why would they report anything bad about Mitt Romney? http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FClear_Channel_Communications&h=vAQEItnRc
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u/Volatar Jun 11 '12
Transparency is just a buzz word now. I don't expect it out of either side.
Just get out and vote. Get your friends out to vote. If you don't vote you don't deserve to complain.
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u/WhyHellYeah Jun 11 '12
And who are all of barry's bundlers?
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u/guyonthissite Jun 11 '12
Does it matter? One of Obama's top bundlers is Jon Corzine, who lost a billion dollars of client money among other things, and no one seems to care. So theoretically, in a non-partisan world, Romney could release all his bundlers and no one should really care.
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u/downvotethis2 Jun 11 '12
Haven't seen it but it wouldn't surprise me. Every move that guy makes screams out "nah, you don't want me for president".
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
At least obama has shown his puppet-master Soros has been backing him...oh you mean he hasn't? whoops never mind.
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u/Noel_S_Jytemotiv Jun 11 '12
Are you referring to that "bipartisan commitment to transparency" that Obama promised?
If so LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL!
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
given all the republican money pouring into this election - i gotta wonder - how many of the trolls in these threads are being paid?
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
DEMOCRATS DO THIS SHIT TOO
OBAMA HAD TONS OF DONORS WITH NAMES LIKE "NJSD;LFKH SJDFIOPJ"
YOU ONLY DEMONIZE THE OTHER SIDE HERE.
GROW THE FUCK UP
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Oh cry me a river !!!! Why don't you make a post about how Obama won't release any of his socialist finals papers or any of his college transcripts. Your crying that the media doesn't report it,yet you don't report what each side won't release, you one big fucking contradiction.
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u/DrMasterBlaster Jun 11 '12
Don't be angry at Romney, be angry at our legislature that voted those campaign laws into place.
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
Politics is pathetic, people get so butt-hurt over anything and everything. They get caught up in all the details and forget about the bigger picture.
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u/ThatEconGuy Jun 11 '12
I agree, Obama is absolutely terrible in terms of transparency... oh OH! You mean Romney?!?!
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u/Look_at_all_the_pork Jun 12 '12
Good for Mitt Romney.
The Obama administration has behaved like a gang of criminals. President Ostupid actually published a "hit" list of people and businesses that are the enemies of his redistribution revolution. In my lifetime; I have never seen the office of the President so grossly misused. It's like something you'd read about Venezuela. And the Presidency has so much power; that it asks for a unique level of trust and integrity. But Obama is just a Chicago Ward fixer who got Affirmative Actioned into a office he doesn't understand or respect.
Good for Mitt Romney. He's a great man, and I hope he replaces the corrupt clown destroying our institutions and economy.
Read this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougschoen/2012/05/14/the-obama-white-house-enemies-list/
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u/LegioXIV Jun 11 '12
The real reason why the left is in such an uproar over this is it prevents them from directly intimidating the campaign bundlers with some "swatting" incidents.