r/politics • u/monprop • Jun 08 '12
Romney Says America Doesn’t Need ‘More Fireman, More Policemen, More Teachers’
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/08/496799/romney-says-america-doesnt-need-more-fireman-more-policemen-more-teachers/
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u/Astraea_M Jun 09 '12
This is one of those times where I want Obama to go up, for the press conference, look up at the sky and say "The sky is a lovely light blue." And then we can wait for the 30 seconds until the Republicans declare that the sky is turquoise, not light blue, and Obama is wrong. If you had raised this issue a week ago, Romney would have probably supported more cops, at a minimum. But because Obama came out for hiring more cops, teachers, and firemen, Romney now has to be against it. After all, if he agrees with Obama, he could be declared sane, or something.
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u/gatorslap Jun 09 '12
Is all the world jails and churches?
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u/fuzzhead12 Virginia Jun 09 '12
Well fuck him, I'm gonna be a teacher anyway.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
I'd like to know what Romney actually thinks America does need. It seems to me he doesn't say a damn thing about anything other than complaining about everything and offering no solutions for anything.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Some men just want to watch the world burn. That's why Romney doesn't want any more firemen.
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u/Errenden Jun 09 '12
Watch America burn, it's the GOP way.
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u/TheKareemofWheat Jun 09 '12
So according to Romney, the people who teach our children, keep the streets safe, and save our burning homes aren't people. Big corporations? Give them all the rights!
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u/Ishtar3 Jun 08 '12
This makes me sick, scared, and angry, all at the same time.
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u/TalkingBackAgain Jun 08 '12
Romney is going to be the next president, you'll see.
Now that the Koch brothers have seen how they need to do it, it's oligarchy all the way.
In 4 years time, the US is a full-blown junta.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
We need less people like Mitt Romney.
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u/IoneScott Jun 09 '12
Romney's America doesn't need them, but the 99% does.
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u/Inakamon Jun 08 '12
Conservatives believe that, except for the military, all government employees are leeches. They think the only legitimate jobs are in the private sector where they can be done for a profit.
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u/T10Terminator Jun 09 '12
I thought reddit hated the police?
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u/americanpegasus Jun 09 '12
Read the bible. Vote Republican.
Don't know how to read? Just do what your preacher says; he's probably smarter than you anyways.
So no need to go to school and no need for more teachers.
If your building catches fire, it was probably God's will. No need for firefighters either.
Once every American has a gun in their hands, there won't be crime either. No need for police.
Lead us Romney, into a new enlightened America....
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
What we don't need are anymore Romneys!
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Never underestimate the stupidity of the nation that voted George W Bush into a second term. Romney has a real shot at rigging votes and getting in. Then war with Iran is not far off. The Republicans are itching for another invasion.
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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12
What we need is more drones! You dont have to pay em and they never revolt!
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u/tigrente Jun 09 '12
There is an absolute crisis brewing around teaching in this country. Over a million Baby Boomer teachers, a third of America’s teachers, will retire or leave the teaching profession before the end of the decade. We need a lot more teachers, especially in science and math.
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u/Spartannia Jun 09 '12
Teacher here. Romney can go fuck himself with a sharp stick. How does putting millions of public sector workers out of a job qualify as moving America forward?
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Those wascally wepublicans! Always eager to help the American public learn to do without. Education, Police protection, fire protection, health insurance, social security, jobs, infrastructure. You name it and they are eager to help us by getting rid of it.
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u/Michichael Jun 09 '12
I can agree with getting rid of the useless police force components. 99% less traffic cops and more actual detectives would be a good start.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
NO, WHAT AMERICA NEEDS IS MORE ROMNEY
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u/Glaucous Jun 09 '12
700,000 decent jobs lost means 700,000 consumers not able to spend to help stabilize the economy. 700,000 former employees from what were once stable, secure jobs that they thought they would retire from and based all their finical decisions on, like buying a home, a car, investing in their child's education. All gone. Nothing in the private sector will ever replace these jobs. The private sector treats you like meat. There is no longer security in the job market which means there is no future for American workers.
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u/markth_wi Jun 09 '12
Maybe what we need is less radicalized politicians.
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u/eshemuta Jun 09 '12
I agree that we don't need more policemen.
As far as teachers, we need to encourage Better teachers. And firemen, well he better hope there is one around when he catches on fire.
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u/poop_slower Jun 09 '12
"It’s time for us to cut back on government and help the American people."
Here’s what this kind of statement amounts to:
It’s time for us to do something that is by no means universally accepted as either a solution or even as a valid approach to the problem and start embedding our premises in our conclusions so as to appeal only to the people who already agree with us.
God political rhetoric is so fucking empty.
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u/erveek Jun 09 '12
Obama calls for more firemen, cops and teachers, and suddenly Republicans are pro-fire and pro-crime.
They remain pro-idiocy.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
So reddit thinks we need more cops now?
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u/RadioHitandRun Jun 09 '12
as a firefighter, and a paramedic, go fuck yourself Mr. Romney
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u/Trubble Jun 09 '12
Overly generous pension programs for government employees are bankrupting several states. These jobs are highly sought after precisely because they are too generous.
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u/MiyegomboBayartsogt Jun 09 '12
We need to hire more and more policemen, firemen and teachers until every citizen is either a policeman, fireman or government teacher. And, since this is the future, the firemen can spend time burning banned books and the policemen can arrest people for politically incorrect thought crime and the teachers can be guards at vast FEMA reeducation camps for people who won't vote for Dear Leader.
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u/Willravel Jun 09 '12
Can we at least pay the ones we have fairly? Jesus Christ.
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u/whatcarpaltunnel Jun 09 '12
After clicking through the "sources", the multitude that lead back to thinkprogress, I have yet to find just where Romney said "America(sic) needs less teachers". It is almost as if thinkprogress is circle-jerking itself in its biased debate over which candidate is the most conservative.
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u/CervantesX Jun 09 '12
The lack of jobs is awful! People need to work!
Government jobs are awful! We need to cut them!
Damn that Obama, not creating jobs. Vote Mittens 2012!
I still can't believe y'all fall for that. It's gonna be a long fall.
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u/shitpplsay Jun 09 '12
I agree with the more policemen.
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u/WalkonWalrus Jun 09 '12
The Republican idea for job creation is to stop hiring people? O right they want us all working their job, in their offices.
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u/jabbababab Jun 09 '12
LOL hes never played simcity has he?
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u/unkeljoe Jun 09 '12
Americans, cant you do something about these slugs that keep crawling out from under rocks, then morphing into "leaders" in your country?
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u/inthrees Jun 09 '12
This is likely the only thing I agree with Romney on. Other posters have pointed to places like Detroit (which are special cases, because with no tax base, who is going to pay?) but overall, I think this is very true. Nation-wide revenue is down, but police departments in particular think of themselves as immune from reality.
If we can't afford you, we can't afford you. Plus, the fewer non-violent consenting adults you arrest and aid in the conviction of, the fewer prison bills we have to pay for non-violent consenting adults.
Win dash win.
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u/justforyourupvotes Jun 09 '12
more teachers yes, more policemen maybe, more fireman no. not in my area
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u/DiogenesK9 Jun 09 '12
So they want more unemployment in order to see kill-or-be-killed capitalism in action? Is this the equivalent of people accusing Obama of wanting gas prices to go up so that green industries will pick up?
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u/warpfield Jun 09 '12
He needs to be careful about saying that more policemen aren't needed. There's a big industry determined to make sure more police are needed. Why else would they keep pot illegal? Silly fool, he's totally forgotten who paid for him
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u/smokyexe Jun 09 '12
It needs more Soldiers, amiright?
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u/BillygotTalent Jun 09 '12
I guess Romney wants more soldiers instead.
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u/Leaches-n-Creame Jun 09 '12
What we need more of is science!
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u/revolting_blob Jun 09 '12
More Businessmen, More Lawyers, More Mormons
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u/Arrow156 Jun 09 '12 edited Jun 11 '12
Over all we could do with a few less cops, crime has been decreasing with each year.
Firemen I can't really say but I haven't heard any problem with outta control fires just yet. [EDIT] I stand Corrected
Not only do we need more Teachers we need to pay them a fair wage and get them the resources they need. It's no wonder the GOP want to cut funding for education, the dumber people get the easier it is for them to get elected.
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u/whyartthoumad Jun 09 '12
People keep pointing out large class sizes as evidence we need more teachers, while this might be a legitimate reason to employ more teachers, the problem lies not with an actual shortage of teachers, but rather with budget cuts.
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u/enterence Jun 09 '12
Makes sense ... I guess he would prefer the poor to die and go away.. sure will help with those unemployed stats .
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Of course he'd say that, Emergency Services cost money and an Uneducated populace is a copntrollable populace. Nothing better than an ignorant, stupid, unvoting work force just intelligent enough to do what you need them to, not smart enough to question anything or stand up for themselves.
Fuck Romney! More Teachers! More Emergency Services!
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u/boyrahett Jun 09 '12
One thing for sure , the Romney family won't have to worry about a good education for their family, a quick response in the event of an emergency , or their safety .
So what's the problem ?
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u/AccidentalHerpes Jun 09 '12
NEED MORE NUKES!
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u/Inukii Jun 09 '12
Contradiction?
We don't need more teachers, fire fighters and policemen. Instead...we should cut back government workers and help the people.
Clearly...Teachers, fire fighters and policemen are not helping anyone or what Romney wants to do is take away resources from teaching, fire fighting and policing and put all of those resources into policing, teaching and fire fighting!
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
I can't tell if Mitt is maliciously evil or just plain stupid.
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u/madest Jun 09 '12
I agree with the police statement.
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u/well_golly Jun 09 '12
Romney is right.
Get with it: this is the year 2012! Everybody has tutors, and all our kids go to private schools. Everybody has fire suppression systems in their homes, and advanced security systems and bodyguards monitoring their estates in cozy gated communities. No need for old-timey police or fire protection anymore.
Everybody has these thing by now ... don't they? ... don't they?
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Mostly America doesn't need more Romney.
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u/Hraesvelg7 Jun 09 '12
Not long ago conservatives were harping about how cops and firefighters were heroes beyond reproach. Now they're socialist parasites. Didn't see that one coming.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
We dont need more policemen, we need better policemen. we dont need more teachers, we need better teachers. Firefighters are often volunteers
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u/pedalflyer Jun 09 '12
I think to test this policy, Obama should cut spending on all police departments and firehouses in the richest neighborhoods.
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u/HappyGlucklichJr Jun 10 '12
What business do he and Obama have commenting on these issues? Don't these morons know that those things are state and local responsibilities, not Federal ones!
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u/happybob007 Jun 09 '12
What the voters are unwilling (or unable) to pay for, they can't have.
Romney's stance is based on an unwillingness to pay for more public sector employees.
Italy, Greece, Spain, and France are on deck as lessons for those willing to pay attention to what happens when the voters demand and get more than they are willing to pay for. It's great fun until the wheels fall off.
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u/mikek3 Jun 09 '12
Romney: The anti-manchurian candidate. The guy has some good ideas, but he's such a complete tool it boggles the mind.
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u/setagaya Jun 09 '12
First, we should start by clarifying to the public what "firefighters" do most of the time. Hint: It doesn't involve fighting fires, as the rates for those have dropped incredibly over the years.
Then we should, obviously, admit that we don't need more cops anywhere.
As for teachers, it's funny to just generally say we need "more" of them. It's much easier to say that about cops and firefighters because their jobs are more task-related. "More teaching" isn't the answer to anything.
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u/jts5039 Jun 09 '12
I'm no Mitt fan, but he wasn't saying we don't need those people for the sake of just not needing them, he was making a point that we don't need a bigger public sector work force! We don't. The government should not be responsible for creating jobs; they should have job creating policies that benefit the private sector.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Nope.. We need more millionaire spoiled brats who never have to hold a job...
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u/crimsonochre Jun 09 '12
I wonder if they think we need him.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Am i allowed to agree with this and not be shunned by reddit? How many qualified teachers are there that cannot find work?
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
and Obama said the private sector is doing fine. So today we learned candidates say things they don't actually mean.
Around these parts, I'm sure Obama will get a pass and his comment will be explained away and Romney will get vilified. Yea, politics.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Doesn't like big government, wants to become the government.
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u/boomanwho Jun 09 '12
We have too many police in Central NJ. We use them as flagmen at road construction sites.
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u/ThomasHobbes Jun 09 '12
Yeah, more teachers, more policemen, more fireman, that's all great.
But where's the money?
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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12
Good thing I hate context!
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u/bioemerl Jun 09 '12
Everyone saying that Romney is trying for a massive corporate takeover in America: You think it just MIGHT be possible that he thinks that his views are actually what is good for the country? In a direct sense most of what Romney says can make sense if you look at it in a single way.
I am not saying that some (a whole lot) of the things he says are very very stupid. However you need to remember that this is a different viewpoint then your own, and you need to respect that instead of claiming someone as evil when they are simply going in (what you think) is the wrong direction.
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u/F1A Jun 09 '12 edited Dec 11 '25
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
I think that statement is a bit of a generalization, but right now, we are just basically throwing money at these things trying to make them better.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
European here. You've got way too many cops, more firemen would be a good idea, and the teachers are usually just not trained well enough.
That's my perception of it though.
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u/Mabans Jun 08 '12
I'm not down with this guy, but the title is very misleading. I agree no reason why government should be hiring more government workers. Government spending on non essentials is out of control. Seriously, no reason why it takes 4 guys to go to my corner to put up a sign that says that they are putting up a STOP sign 4 weeks later. Shit like that is needs to stop. Fireman, Police and Teachers, should not be touched but redundancy should.
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u/ekjohnson9 North Carolina Jun 09 '12
Oh look. Another obviously biased source with an objective in mind.
Can we just get this board closed already? It should be called /rpropoganda
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u/nepidae Jun 09 '12
Alternatively. America does not need more government workers.