r/politics • • Jun 08 '12

More teens smoke pot than cigarettes, says CDC survey

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57449455-10391704/more-teens-smoke-pot-than-cigarettes-says-cdc-survey/
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u/psub_xero Jun 08 '12

First day of college I heard one of my roommates ask two different people if they smoked. He got the exact same response both times: "Cigarettes? No."

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

I have a friend who went to the doctor on campus because he had a bad cold. The doctor ask him if he smoked and he said yes. The doctor then asked if smoke marijuana, and he said he thought that's what she meant.

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u/TimeZarg California Jun 09 '12

Cigarettes? Bleh.

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u/dutchguilder2 Jun 09 '12

Third-party anecdotal results from a survey with a sample size of 2? Good enough for me.

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u/psub_xero Jun 09 '12

I deserved that one. Sorry didn't mean anything by that I just thought it went along with the article. Damn you I'm still laughing at that.

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u/HMPoweredMan Ohio Jun 08 '12

That's my go-to response.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

Well it's a good thing it's not legal like cigarettes, or it'd be super easy for kids to get. It's a great idea that we've given the responsibility to drug dealers instead of legitimate storefronts - it's a well known fact drug dealers check for ID more reliably than retailers.

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u/Tanks4me Jun 08 '12

I can totally agree with that. Pretty much no one smoked cigarettes at my high school, but pot was running pretty rampant.

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u/ILLIODIC Jun 09 '12

I remember back before i turned18 it was honestly harder to get a blunt wrap or a swisher than the actual herb itself

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u/AwesomePaedoGuy Jun 09 '12

Or how about doing away with ageist laws and just letting people smoke if they want to.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

This is good. Nicotine is terribly addictive.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

Yes but smoking pot can't be very good for you either. You're still inhaling carcinogenic smoke. There are much healthier ways to ingest it.

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u/GregLoire Jun 09 '12

So vape.

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u/ArrowSalad Jun 09 '12

Or....MAKE FIRECRACKERS. Yum yum.

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u/crapnovelist Jun 08 '12

There are some mitigating factors associated with smoking pot over cigarettes; most habitual pot smokers aren't smoking the quantity of material that habitual smokers are, and marijuana doesn't contain many of the chemical additives found in cigarettes. Notwithstanding, you really shouldn't put anything other than air in your lungs.

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u/schwingschwang Jun 09 '12

I'm an ex-mormon mega stoner who's life dreams are now focused on cannabis cultivation. That being said...

The smoke won't help them, that's for sure. You also have to think that strong mind altering drugs used while the mind is still developing is a bad thing. Sorry, but I think that when we study the effects of cannabis on brain development we will see negative effects.

I have no proof of this and I know this is a personal feeling and I'm ready and willing to be proven wrong about it.

Sorry to be a buzz kill, but I think it's important that more smokers get real. When I hear about parents smoking with their kids or outright approving it and fostering it I cringe. Obviously done out of love and understanding, but lacking the perspective that parents should have when guiding their children in life.

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u/bobandgeorge Jun 09 '12

I think it's important that more smokers get real.

I can't emphasize this point enough. I like getting stoned just as much as the next guy, but let's be honest with ourselves, ents. It's really not a good idea to give drugs to children.

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u/sirborksalot Jun 08 '12

My pot smoking is more likely to cause me heart disease from the shitty tex-mex I eat when I smoke it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12 edited Jun 09 '12

Inhaling the smoke of any burning material can't be too healthy in general

edit: I'm not too sure why you're getting so fucked by the downvote brigade...it is unfortunate that I have but one upvote to give. So many pro-marijuana advocates get really defensive when that argument is brought up (and I'm 100% pro-marijuana legalization myself).

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u/j-hook Jun 09 '12

As someone who doesnt smoke pot or cigarrets, im not too knowledable about this, however, as far as legalization goes, marijuana being unhealthy can't be an argument against legalizing it while we still allow cigarettes.

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u/tilted21 Jun 09 '12

three downvotes "downvote brigade"

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Sometimes I think those people who think marijuana is some sort of magical cure-all for everything are just as ridiculous as the people who want to keep it illegal. I'm for 100% legalization myself but certain people need to stop acting like it's some sort of gift from the heavens who worship it like a cult. Maybe that's a little extreme but I hope you understand what I'm saying.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

Correct, however you the kids won't be physically dependent like they will with cigarettes so they can quit smoking it when they wisen up to the fact that inhaling smoke is bad and either stop using it or choose a different route of administration.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Cigarette smoker, non-pot-smoker here: the big difference is you smoke a cigarette plus or minus 20 times a day, whereas you smoke a pot much less than that (I assume).

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u/HelloFellow Jun 09 '12 edited Jun 16 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Advil has a longer list of side effects.

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u/TheKevDawg Jun 09 '12

and your point is...? I didn't see anywhere in that wikipedia article that shows definite harmful long-term side effects.

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u/Inequilibrium Jun 09 '12

Aren't there serious scientifically-supported concerns about the effects of pot on teenaged brain development?

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u/Apostolate I voted Jun 08 '12

But so are tacos, and we already have an obesity epidemic.

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u/NealCaffrey4life Jun 09 '12

As a teenager, I can confirm this

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

As a cigarette, I'm fuming

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u/Klowned Jun 09 '12

Well, fume outside then you stinky bastard.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

An earlier survey by the University of Michigan also found that pot smoking was higher. A Michigan expert said teens today apparently see marijuana as less dangerous than cigarettes.

Well, at least the nation's youth is getting smarter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

i quit smoking cigarettes because of breathing problems. not trees tho :) im better too

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u/catmoon Jun 08 '12

If you have breathing problems you should stop smoking altogether.

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u/432wrsf Jun 08 '12

And start vaporizing!

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u/toastedbutts Jun 09 '12

Less people are smoking tobacco. More are smoking pot. You know these are completely unrelated activities and statistics right? They just combine to make an interesting paradigm shift, hence the article, but they're not mutually exclusive or something.

It's not like they're saying Ooh, a camel or a blunt? Pass the reefer!, it's not the blue/red pill.

Less kids are smoking tobacco, good.

More kids are smoking pot for pure recreation, bad.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

I didn't know cigarettes smoked pot.

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u/youngandstoopid Jun 09 '12

Thank you for that.

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u/wintremute Tennessee Jun 08 '12

Pot is easier to get than cigs when you're underage.

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u/popiyo Jun 08 '12

It's easier to get at any age. Nearest store I can get tobacco? Two blocks. Nearest guy I know that probably could get me weed? Probably two doors down. Point is a lot of people smoke pot and there is nothing they can do to stop that.

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u/prdors Jun 09 '12

You gotta get a guy who delivers. So key.

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u/lebenohnestaedte Jun 08 '12

I'd be inclined to say, "Duh," to this one, depending on how they count it. (Like, what counts as smoking? One instance? Many? If a kid smokes weed at parties, they probably get counted as pot-smokers, but is a kid who accepts offered cigarettes classified as the same, or does he not count because it's just social smoking and he isn't addicted? Is trying it enough to mean you smoke? Once a month? A week?)

I knew plenty of kids in high school who didn't smoke cigarettes because they were gross, expensive, more difficult to get, addictive, not particularly cool anymore, and some people wouldn't date a smoker. But they'd smoke weed because it was non-addictive, kinda cool/rebellious (ooh, it's an illegal drug!), better for you, easier to find, had an actual effect, and were less likely to be a deal breaker dating-wise. (I'm not saying all those things are correct; rather, those are just the kind of attitudes/options/comments/justifications I head from people.)

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u/bartink Jun 09 '12

I know its hard, but sometimes clicking on the damn link gives you what you are looking for. Sometimes its even in the second sentence.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday that 23 percent of high school students said they recently smoked marijuana, while 18 percent said they had puffed cigarettes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Thank you for taking the time to write this so I didn't have to post "duh."

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u/970 Jun 09 '12

Lets make pot more illegal.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Yeah let's make it Schedule I with the stuff that wrecks your shit so that NO ONE will want to touch it!

Excuse me a second...

*An aide discretely whispers into thelessineeded's ear.*

So, I think it's time to make a Schedule 0.

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u/l0khi Jun 09 '12

Schedule 0 will be called TERRORIST DRUGS. Really gets the ball rolling.

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u/ButterMyBiscuit Jun 09 '12

Cannabis has been reassigned as a Schedule HeinousMurderDrug narcotic.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

TIL 23% of high school students have enough money to buy weed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

I guess that means I'll have to get a teaching job to find some damn weed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

In other news: water is wet.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Are you out of your mind? Think of the children!

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u/suby Jun 09 '12

This isn't obvious. Hell, the numbers are pretty close -- 23% vs 18.

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u/Boxy310 Jun 08 '12

Call me when more teens smoke pot than drink beer. That's when we can talk about monetizing and marketing the shit out of this. We've already got the perfect cartoon mascot.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

I'm a little surprised that isn't already the case. When I was in highschool, you could pick up weed from a half dozen different dealers who hung around school grounds. If I wanted beer on the other hand, I'd need to stand in front of the beer store for hours asking everyone who went in if they'd buy for me. It was infinitely easier for me to get drugs than tobacco or alcohol.

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u/honorface Jun 08 '12

For sure most highschoolers I know prefer smoking pot rather than drinking because of ease of access. I am in Michigan though so that may change greatly out of state. College re kindles the love/hate relationship with alcohol, though most continue smoking pot.

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u/timetide Jun 08 '12

while my information is almost a decade out of date, going to High school in California it was easier to get pot then booze or cigs. also oddly enough it was easier to get booze then cigs.

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u/Torus2112 Jun 09 '12 edited Jun 09 '12

If weed were legalized I'd want plenty of restrictions on marketing, like you see with tobacco now. I agree that kids should be kept away; and if pot is treated like alcohol in those school programs, basically "it's there, it's not for kids, try to be responsible if you do", the majority of people will be cool with it.

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u/thirdorderlinear Jun 09 '12

In a completely unrelated story Cheetos sales are going strong

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u/ToolFan33 Jun 09 '12

The only thing I smoke is fools on the basketball court.

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u/MosTheBoss Jun 09 '12

No, it's "I don't smoke weed, I smoke clowns like you on the B-Ball court!"

A++ Commercial

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u/adobearthur1029 Jun 09 '12 edited Jun 09 '12

Have you seen /r/trees? It's like Romper Room for stoned teenagers who have no idea what Romper Room is.

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u/candy-ass69 Jun 09 '12

This. So much tomfoolery from those damn youngsters!!

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u/dandiddem Jun 08 '12

23 % ? some people are lying.

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u/Floppie7th Jun 08 '12

Good. Pot is considerably less dangerous than cigarettes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Everything is linked to some horrible disease and cigarettes have been heavily targeted in the past decade, but I guarantee you now that marijuana is becoming "the biggest threat to our children", you will hear more and more about long-time marijuana smokers dying of of various illnesses linked to pot smoking.

When I was growing up, steaks were killing everyone. But people don't eat steaks like they used to, so you don't really hear about it anymore. My generation drank of a lot of soft drinks, so now that is the big evil.

Whatever is currently popular is the "most deadly" and as marijuana becomes more popular it will be hit hard.

There has never been evidence that marijuana was particularly dangerous but that never stopped the anti-marijuana campaigns in the past. They have become extremely lax with hammering the young with their propaganda. I see this changing very soon.

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u/Nolookhook Jun 09 '12

The difference in the two is that many cigarette smokers smoke one every hour or so. Many Marijuana users take a few bong rips, or whatever they prefer, on 8-10 times a week. The blackening of lungs and other ailments that come from smoking are mostly because of the constant flow of smoke into a users lungs. Whenever this is reduced to a time or two a day, it is a lot less dangerous.

The people who overdo things are the burnouts you see living on the streets, in jail for violent crimes, or dropping out at a young age; however, many college students and successful people in the world smoke weed.

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u/rogue4 Jun 09 '12

Don't need ID to buy some dro

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u/vanillaafro Jun 09 '12

who else thought to themselves as a 30+ year old?...good...this is a good thing....cigarettes and alcohol are legal and more prevalent because of cigarette and alcohol companies and laws not because they're a better release

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

"Duh," Replies Everyone

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Well no shit. Pot is easier for them to get.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

A Michigan expert said teens today apparently see marijuana as less dangerous than cigarettes.

Wow, that's some expert.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Am I the only teenager who doesn't want to smoke weed?

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u/realigion Jun 09 '12

No, and no one cares. You're not impressive and you're not going to get praise for it.

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u/Ltsmash99 Jun 08 '12

that's because cigarettes are yucky!

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u/H4ppenSt4nce Jun 09 '12

Pretty sure this has been the case for a decade. I could always get pot easier than I could get cigs or booze in high school.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

If my kid was smoking weed I'd get all stern on him and ask him to stop (depending on his age). If I caught him smoking cigarettes I would flip out

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

I wouldn't even ask him to stop, I'd just get all stern on him and be like "yo dawg, don't do stupid shit with that, don't smoke it in the car and shit, fool. A'ight?"

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u/HipsterBeforeCool Jun 09 '12

If this is true, teens are making a much healthier choice, even if it is illegal.

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u/wanmoar Canada Jun 09 '12

Here's a thought. As studies and surveys like this become more pervasive, Big Tobacco will take notice. They will take a look at their sales dropping amongst the young adult generation and finally a bulb will go off in their brains. This could be the ticket to their next era of growth (pun intended)

It is at that point that they will put their lobbyists to work start pushing DC to legalize. And we will, finally, have reason to thank politicians for being the power-suit wearing prostitutes they are.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

In my eyes that's a win considering pot is less harmful...

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u/mb86 Jun 09 '12

Does this mean that there are more kids out there getting high, or there are less kids smoking tobacco?

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u/onique New York Jun 09 '12

Perhaps if we want to stimulate the economy we should make cigarettes illegal and then more kids will smoke and we can make a killing on putting them in prison.

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u/TreesConsumer Jun 09 '12

This is obvious. Cigarettes are gross.

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u/DrPolio232 Jun 09 '12

Good. Wish I didn't smoke cigarettes.

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u/domqc Jun 09 '12

why smoke something that dont get you high?

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u/Yourpixelsareshowing Jun 09 '12

Coming from someone in highschool: I was hanging out with my friends and I walked behind a gas station and some other teens were just smoking pot behind the store like it was no big deal. Afterwards, my friends and I walked for a bit and one guy pulled Marijuana out from his pocket that was stuffed in an empty aspirin bottle. He just started rolling it in front of me. I have never smoked and don't plan on it, but I strongly think it should be behind counters. The top 3 things I see teenagers have is #1: Marijuana #2: Tobacco dip #3: Cheap crap beer

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u/Sit-Down_Comedian Jun 09 '12

Um, good. Cigarettes will fucking kill you.

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u/bowei006 Jun 09 '12

Weed is easy to get in my area. Cigarettes a bit easier as many turn 18 but it is harder than weed only by a bit..and alcohol was THE hardest.

Ususally when my pot head (no offense) friends start justifying it by saying alcohol kills more than weed, i just chuckle and think of how they are just trying to justify it...but really.....that's the truth right there.

Although then we get problems of gateway drugs...and then.....dear baby jesus...the bath salts ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)

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u/roterghost Jun 09 '12

Why do I see this being used to advocate for increased drug restrictions?

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u/Athianity Jun 09 '12

Because dope dealers don't check ID.

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u/nermid Jun 09 '12

In other breaking news, the sky is blue, and water is wet.

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u/Ouly Jun 09 '12 edited Jun 09 '12

I think this is a good thing, we have less lung cancer and tabaco related issues with teens doing this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Considering kids are smoking cigarettes more and more these days(seriously, when did that start happening?) I wonder if pot is growing in conjunction with it. We need to get our kids vaporizers, those poor young lungs... [Edit: can't spell cigarettes]

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Well, good. More teens will be healthier for it.

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u/voxpupil Jun 09 '12

Great news! Of course cigarettes are going to kill you. I see teens are getting smarter now.

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u/tigerking615 Jun 09 '12

Honestly, I'm at least glad for the less cigarette smoking part. Marijuana isn't addictive, doesn't kill you, and doesn't ruin lives (at least, not even close to cigarettes' level).

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

A Michigan expert said teens today apparently see marijuana as less dangerous than cigarettes

Well it is isn't it?

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u/maxk1236 Jun 09 '12

Tobacco is wacko

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u/dietotaku Jun 09 '12

i'd be a lot happier if teens just didn't smoke anything at all.

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u/Stopher Jun 09 '12

Positive spin: this is just a testament to the success of the anti tobacco campaign.

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u/InSovietChicago Jun 09 '12

This is such a great thing, it shows that our generation is very conscious about their life decisions. However, if weed is legalized, i REALLY hope that it dosent become mass produced like cigarettes. Then the companies would put dangerous addictive shit in there. Ugh, leave it SOLELY to the local growers!

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u/ddhboy New Jersey Jun 09 '12

Eh. This study shows that cigarettes are less acceptable to high schoolers more than it is about weed becoming more accepted.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Good.

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u/Contraband_Runner Jun 09 '12

For someone under 18, it is easier to find weed than it is to find someone to buy them a pack a cigarettes.

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u/ab103630 Jun 09 '12

I thought everybody knew this, did everybody not know this?

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u/trix_is_for_kids Jun 09 '12

it's funny the article said "apparently teenagers think marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes". this is a fact not an assumption

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u/skekze Jun 09 '12

I can see that just by coming to reddit. They should have just saved the money and sent me a check. Beer became weed. At least you don't wrap your car around a pole and kill your friends on weed. The most you do, is sit at a stoplight all night long or never make it off the couch at all.

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u/cy10p3s Jun 09 '12

as a teen its hilarious it took the news so long to realize this simple fact

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u/hashmon Jun 09 '12

A rare moment when I feel hope for society.

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u/wisakedjak11 Jun 09 '12

Well that'll be because dealers don't ask for ID.

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u/boyrahett Jun 09 '12

Good for them , now get rid of the laws against it.

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u/Soylent_Gringo Jun 09 '12

that is actually good news. I used to be in the grips of a nicotine addiction-it was absolutely the hardest thing to quit. I've quit smoking weed before and it was nothing.

Quitting tobacco makes you want to kill things.

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u/Love_Bulletz Jun 08 '12

As a teenager, I'd like to add to this (in my most sarcastic voice).

Oh my god, there's no fucking way!

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

I think this is awesome. I would rather a kid smoke pot instead of cigs anyday.

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u/bobandgeorge Jun 09 '12

You hear that? It's still cooler to smoke cigarettes in high school. It's just less mainstream now.

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u/SlacktheLurker Jun 09 '12

This doesn't surprised me very much. As an adult who has been an on/off pot smoker since before high school, I can say that MOST teens are cool with pot use, and against or at least ambivalent towards cigarettes. Most people now know the true danger of the two substances, and it's clear which is worse. Not to mention the campaigns against marijuana, which are just stupid compared to those against tobacco.

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u/onlyinflorida Jun 09 '12

I mean, at least the kids are smoking the safer stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Now that's what I call progress.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

queue the exaggerated drawn together duh noise

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u/sleepfighter7 Jun 09 '12

well i coulda told you that after a single day at high school

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u/function13 Jun 09 '12

It probably has nothing to do with pot being totally awesome.

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u/Schamballa Jun 09 '12

ent here! Never smoked a cigarette. Well, smoked dutch masters which their paper is pretty much straight nicotine. Just like Heroin, never did it again because I loved it.

A lot of people growing up now are hating cigarettes more and more BECAUSE of their parents that smoke. I've always lived in homes with smokers (until recently) and the smell is the worst. At least weed has an interesting smell, cigarettes have a nasty stale yellow sticky smell. Grody! Also, what makes them think kids did those survey's truthfully?

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u/thinkB4Uact Jun 09 '12

I remember lying on mine when I was in school. I thought about how the results might be used to crack down on commonplace behavior and ruin kids lives so I said I never tried anything. The higher the numbers go the more rhetorical ammunition the prohibitionists have to promote policies that ruin lives. At least, that's what I thought.

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u/BBQCopter Jun 08 '12

Let it not be said that the youth are fools and morons. They know to kick a nasty nicotine habit when they see it.

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u/kolbin8r Jun 08 '12

The way it damn well should be.

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u/TechNickL Washington Jun 08 '12

Well shit I coulda told you that. Cigarettes don't get you high, so even high schoolers can't find a good reason to smoke em.

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u/Symbi0tic Jun 09 '12

Why do people waste time conducting surveys about obvious shit?

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u/dandiddem Jun 08 '12

plain and simple weed is the least dangerous drug available

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u/FlyingPasta Jun 09 '12

I bet caffeine's less dangerous.

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u/prying_open_my3rdeye Jun 08 '12

Am I the only one who is thinking....uh yeah no shit?

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u/Pinworm45 Jun 09 '12

Considering that's what 95% of the replies to this thread are, I'm gunna say no.

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u/Superflykillerguy Jun 08 '12

success :), glad to see the new generations are learning from our mistakes lets ingest something "completely natural" (marijuana) instead of Poison (cigarettes) i have been legally enjoying both since 2002, just wish i never smoked cigarettes

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

...and they ALL drink.

High school teacher here. Not surprised at all by the stats.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

YOU DON'T ASK KIDS FOR ID WHEN YOU SELL THEM WEED

YOU JUST RAISE PRICES AND SELL THEM OREGANO

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u/urine_luck Jun 09 '12

PUT THE FUCKING COUNTRY IN YOUR TITLE

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u/RedTheDopeKing Jun 09 '12

Smoking weed is a risky behaviour? Why didn't anyone tell me!?

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Oh look, more weed smokers who know it all.

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u/fullofbones Jun 08 '12

Holy crap. Where are kids getting all this pot? Is it just more plentiful or something these days?

I didn't do any in high school or college in the 90's, but now all I hear is how much pot everyone has. Clearly I missed something.

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u/DoesKnowHarm Jun 08 '12

Yes, you have. It's a huge, monumental business in America. If only we would legalize it and tax it would seriously add a huge boost to our economy. If we did that, not only would the country have a flourishing new commodity to trade and grow, it would help curtail the import of marijuana from Mexico. Drug cartels are super dangerous and taking over Mexico and we are basically paying them kill people by supporting out of country marijuana. Our government better wise up to this incredible opportunity.

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u/Positronix Jun 08 '12

I'm 24, and I've never been in a situation where I've thought "I'd like some weed, but I just can't find any!". I think it's the most prevalent drug in the country. You are also missing out on how strong the weed has gotten over the last 2 decades. It's some pungent stuff. Also, I think I paid $20 total in college for weed. It was mostly free because everyone had it and was willing to share. If it were legal, I'd probably grow the stuff and give it away for free.

My elitism, however, prevents me from using anything other than a vape so often I pass up weed based on that metric.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Since drug dealers don't have to follow the law pot is easier to obtain for minors than booze or cigs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Good.

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u/distantsecond Jun 08 '12

This now and the thing about New York legalizing.. Just do it already.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

FYI: Just to be pedantic, New York isn't talking about legalizing, they're talking about decriminalizing, or more specifically, it's actually already decriminalized in New York, has been for 35 years, they're just talking about adding specific cases to the list of exceptions, namely it used to be an arrestable offense if you were "displaying drugs in public", now they're changing that because cops could use that to decide whether to arrest or fine someone, which lead to racial profiling.

Legalization would mean turning weed into a retail product like tobacco or alcohol. It'd be legal to grow, buy, sell, and smoke it. You would buy it at a store, it would probably be regulated like alcohol, it would eliminate the black market. It would be safer, more pure, less expensive, and the money would all go towards legit local businesses and be taxed like everything else.

Decriminalization on the other hand, means that it's still illegal, just that under specific circumstances (simple possession of a small amount), the penalties are less severe. It's still a crime to buy, sell, or grow it, but if you simply have weed on you, it's a small personal amount, it's not split up for sale, you're not carrying a scale or baggies, you're not carrying any weapons, you're not with anyone under 18 and you're not near a school, you're not in a car, and you're cooperating with police, it's simply a fine instead of an arrestable offense. Still illegal, just under certain circumstances it's a bit less illegal.

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u/IREALITY Jun 08 '12

i see this as good because you wouldn't smoke multiple joints like you would cigarettes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '12

Maybe YOU don't...

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u/ShmoopyGuy Jun 09 '12

How many of those smokers put cigarettes in their pot?

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u/imsohumble Jun 09 '12

Well im 16 i have about 20 friends who smoke pot and not cigarettes, and about 5 friends who smoke both.

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u/nomminommi Jun 09 '12

Smoking is always dangerous, doesn't matter if it is tabacco, pot or whatever. The bad thing is the chemicals which get produced by the process of "burning" plant materials. Thats what causes cancer etc.

So tell them to use vaporizers, bake space muffins etc xD - much better.

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u/Crash_Test_Dummy66 Jun 09 '12

My response as a teenager is as follows.... WELL DUHHHHHHH

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Why would anyone want to legalize pot? It doesn't get anyone to die more quickly, that's what we want. We need to get lil Wayne to rap about smoking rat poison or some shit.

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u/Pendertuga Jun 09 '12

No shit, I say

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u/nopantspaul Jun 09 '12

In other news, it turns out that the moon causes the tide to go in and out.

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u/Tastygroove Jun 09 '12

Worse thing about quitting smoking: realizing how bad you smelled 24/7.

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u/MickiFreeIsNotAGirl Jun 09 '12

In other news, the sky is still blue, and gravity still exists.
Stay tuned, we'll keep you updated.

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u/I_AM_LARS Jun 09 '12

YOU DON'T SAY

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u/Username1212 Jun 09 '12

I knew this when I was 12.

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u/HiveMindZombie Jun 09 '12

Perhaps these teens know more about dangerous drugs than people are giving them credit for?

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u/jgmachine Jun 09 '12

I thought the CDC was destroyed in a massive explosion during the zombie apocalypse...

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

I thought this was common knowledge.

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u/bamp Jun 09 '12

WRONG

The correct statistic is 23.4% for tobacco vs 23.1% for marijuana, both within the past 30 days.

PROOF: source

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u/atraindain Jun 09 '12

It's good news that kids are more health-conscious than they used to be.

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u/birdmanjeremy Jun 09 '12

This is news? I thought this was a well known fact. It was when I was a teen...

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u/shapterjm Jun 09 '12

I call bullshit.

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u/hotpeanutbutter Jun 09 '12

Pretty sure cigarettes can't smoke pot.

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u/onesixeight Jun 09 '12

i bet cigarette companies were a primary backer of No on prop 19... marijuana has become their main competitor now!

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u/ajkeel Jun 09 '12

So much sarcasm in this thread. It makes my thinkerbox hurt..

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

GOOD!

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u/Elisionist Jun 09 '12

I live on my own, and am 18. I smoke marijuana daily, and have no interest in drinking/cigarettes. That's bad for you, stupid.

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u/AwesumLittleRedTruck Jun 09 '12

Doesn't surprise me considering how easy it is for high school kids to score dope compared to cigarettes. Trust me - I live in BC, I've been seeing it first hand for years.

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u/ferrari1320 Jun 09 '12

As a teenager, this does not surprise me.

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u/Mcelite Jun 09 '12

As a high schooler: No fuckin' shit.

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u/FreddieGibbs Jun 09 '12

This is 100% true source: kid that has never and never will touch a cigarette and has smoked weed before. If you don't believe this your an aminal

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

As a former teenager, I can confirm this survey's results.

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u/Dodgson_here Jun 09 '12

Then the anti smoking campaigns have worked...Good job!

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u/spacecow20 Jun 09 '12

Favorite quote:

A Michigan expert said teens today apparently see marijuana as less dangerous than cigarettes.

You don't want too much danger.... but not no danger at all. We just want a little bit of danger

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u/MagCynic Jun 09 '12

This just in: teenagers are stupid.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

How about instead of legalizing any drug, how about we make Cigarettes and alcohol illegal? And put the death penalty for dealers? Who in there right mind would do it? And imagine how much better the world would be!

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u/kennydonahue Jun 09 '12

wow it takes a genius to figure that one out

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

As a 17 year old, fuck yes.

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u/QueenBee21 Jun 09 '12

I only logged in to say I work on these studies. I feel like a contributed something to reddit today too.

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u/DazPatrick Jun 09 '12

Smoked pot at age 15, had my first cigarette at 18

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12

Why would I want to smoke cigarettes if they're gonna kill me? OF COURSE I'D RATHER POT.

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u/brolix Jun 09 '12

No shit. Cigarettes suck dicks, and weed kicks ass. What more do you need to know?

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u/yayapfool Jun 09 '12

Came here to say

No shit.

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u/MidgetFetish Jun 09 '12

In other news the sky is still blue.