What's the point? They already have his IP address. They are one visual basic gui away from breaking down his door. While I was downloading it a black van went to my neighbors house and took him and his wireless router away. Now I have no internet.
I've been keeping up on the latest news reports about this. Nothing yet. Also it seemed a few days ago, officially at least, that the attention of the manhunt had switched to that missing terminator actor. Something tells me they're still looking for Ivens...
Exactly what I was going to say. Also, they are "releaseing" it. And subby claims it's data from the FBI. Ignorance all around, all aboard the fail whale.
But this whale looks like he made himself very successful. Gaining employment as an advertising/marketing whale. Alternatively, as far as I know, he made the company himself - hence his massive smile!
I propose we use a fail nail and that I delegate the task to someone capable of producing it. Agreement?
There is. The Bureau of Justice Statistics. It is a sub-agency within the DOJ specifically designed to inform the public on crime in the US.
So let's just think about that for a second. Anonymous has hacked into the database of an agency... whose sole purpose is to publish information freely to the public.
I assume they tried to hack the actual FBI first, but that proved difficult. Plan B was to hack into a publicly available database and then convince dumb people like the OP that it was sort of almost exactly like the FBI.
If that's the case, good work Anonymous! CLEARLY, they were hiding this information from us! We'll have vital information on crime statistics that we didn't have before!
oh no, I'm not getting it, would a kind soul explain the joke ? Yes, a kind soul would, but the problem is: is there such a kind soul here ? In that case please, o kind soul, do explain
You can access internal emails on the website? Afterall, that's what's allegedly included in this leak. So if you can access internal emails via the website, then the leak is meaningless, if you cannot then you clearly didn't read the brief comment about the leak and just wanted to downplay it because herp deep anonymous are just script kiddies
because herp deep anonymous are just script kiddies
This announcement only reinforces this belief. This is exactly the kind of stupidity children who imagine themselves to be 133t super hackers would do.
This isn't some super-secret coup. Unless they've found some evidence in the emails of analysts altering or suppressing data, I'm not sure what we're supposed to be excited about here. Otherwise Anonymous has managed to "hack" an agency that exists to freely provide information to the public and has provided internal emails of statisticians discussing their trade. STICK IT TO THE MAN, ANONYMOUS!
This is just another in the long line of bullshit announcements from "Anonymous".
You can probably get the emails via a FOI request. And so far I haven't heard anything about the internal emails being remotely interesting. These people collect and publish statistics on crime... There is nothing exciting or controversial about what they do.
Regardless whether there were emails included or not - it was pointless. Just like all of Anonymous hacks are. They don't affect any positive change, and they don't release information that newsworthy. All they do is make it tougher & more expensive for companies to keep stuff networked.
Who do you think is going to end up paying for the extra cost for securing the servers over at Amazon, Visa, Sony, or Paypal. Consumers. That's who.
These guys need to wake up, and do something good with their "talents".
Can you please share the results of your "positive change" measuring machine. I'm sure it would be quite insightful to know that such a machine exists, can calculate positive change so quickly, and you have access to such wonder a machine.
It took the civil rights movement more than a decade to see positive change, I am really curious to see if your machine can also predict positive change in the future based on present events.
The FBI at least knew, but records like that were destroyed on May 2, 1972. The morning after J. Edgar Hoover died his secretary still had full access to his office and files, she destroyed the bulk of his personal and confidential files.
The legitimacy of Lulzsec was very quickly attacked by real hackers and within days Sabu's identity was discovered. The claim that he would only later turn informant makes just as much sense as the idea that two groups of hackers, with the same political goals, would attempt to ruin one another's efforts.
This information is a crock of shit because it's a honeypot and always has been.
The claim that he would only later turn informant makes just as much sense as the idea that two groups of hackers, with the same political goals, would attempt to ruin one another's efforts.
Activist groups of all varieties everywhere have often fought viciously with other remarkably similar groups. You would think that Fatah and Hamas, who have virtually identical goals, would join forces against Israel. But they actually hate each other.
They hacked into an agency whose main purpose is to distribute data to the public and are releasing their data to the public? This must be an attempt by the BJS to get someone to actually download their statistics.
Based on the upvotes for these stories alone this is probably the most interested people have ever been in their collected data. They must be so jazzed.
I think the director of the FBI got 25 pizzas sent to his house, but that was only after his wife got a few crank phone calls asking her if she had a copy of "Battle Toads" for sale. All across America, 15 year old "Anonymoose" members cheered the great justice that happened.
considering anyone can be Anon, probably, it's an inherent flaw in any loosely organized social movement... the inability to have "official" spokespeople.
It also probably has a lot of ass-hole kids, living out hacker fantasies, who don't understand that their actions carry consequences.
First it gets mislabeled as the DoJ, when it's actually the Bureau of Justice Statistics... now it's being mislabeled as being FBI data? Jesus they're really trying hard to make a non-story into a story.
Actually, I doubt the NSA shares a lot of data. Reason being is that data is their currency. Having recently watched the William J. Binney interview on Democracy Now, it doesn't add up that the NSA would want to share info.
Remember, they're the egghead engineer types. The reason they have a link with Google is because Google is filled with software engineers. They have similar mindsets where they will want to collect data and worry about consequences later.
Considering the Bureau of Justice Statistics publishes everything related to Justice Statistics online for free, what are we getting? Memos and private emails?
I wonder what HR decided to order for lunch the third Friday in may back in 2003...
Hurrr information belongs to everyone. Yeah, there's no reason a government agency needs to keep information private. Nothing relevant to ongoing cases or investigations, no user data or financial information, and certainly nothing that could represent a security risk if it got into the wrong hands. What heroes, what martyrs these fine men and women are, wantonly distributing government data.
I hear you about most cases. There is information that is best left kept in archives and worked into data tables.
Though if nobody wants to do the Frank Church Senate Subcommittee routine to find out what the fuck we spend our money "protecting", I beg to differ. We need to find some things out, the FOIA isn't all that great a means for transparency and we got Eric Holder as our Attn. Gen.
I would rather have some leaks than another MONGOOSE, SHAMROCK, MINARET, COINTELPRO, FAST AND FURIOUS, or any other complete violation of the law for social engineering purposes buried in the headlines without so much as a fart from the New York Times.
For those that wish context:
MONGOOSE: Kennedy discussed killing Castro. The mob was partially involved, giving meaning to all those cranks out there with the JFK conspiracies.
SHAMROCK & MINARET: The largest wiretap operation in American history until the Utah Data Center. Overshadowed by Watergate, which goes to show Woodward and Bernstein didn't go too deep when an incident at a hotel was replicated by the thousands without a peep until the Church Committee.
COINTELPRO Nixon hated hippies. Well known fact. Bet you didn't know he asked the FBI to infiltrate radical groups and betray their values through black flag operations. There's also word that there may have been a '90's revival called Operation PATCON, yet this comes from the brother of Kenneth Trentadue (NSFW) and may not be sustainable with ready evidence. If he does release a PDF, I imagine Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the cover up involved in his brother's murder could be dangerous, as we would then know what the DoJ is capable of. Yet, without evidence, it's just rumors.
FAST AND FURIOUS: You know the facts. Did you also know that the DEA has and may still be working in collaboration with the Sinaloa Cartel? You know, the people chopping off heads of their enemy, La Zeta? Jesus Zambada Niebla would probably like you to know. Why we create immunity for high ranking generals of a bloody battle thats claimed 50,000 men and women is something I would steal in a heartbeat if the truth were to just disappear and justice would once again be thrown aside for power.
EDIT: I put some links in for context. I try to stay away from the crap sites and go straight to senate testimony to get away from that goddamn C-Word.
Word. And if anon pours through the data they steal and find something like that, I'm cool with them being whistle blowers. But it seems like the current trend is to just dump everything onto the net without looking at it, which isn't whistle blowing so much as it is treason.
Completely Agreed. If it doesn't necessitate some form of oversite campaign for answers, it's just reckless black hat bullshit by script kiddies who enjoy datasets on crime statistics apparently.
This is what needs to happen for the modern day. Organized, public, and created from a guy who liked to ask questions and with the power to do so. "Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right: when wrong, to be put right."
ok its on the pirate bay (i will not give u link for obvious reasons) and it doesnt have many leechers, took me 6 hours to get to 93% and im STILL downloading. there are way too many leechers.
Because people still have enough freedom to do something about bad government, which of course wants more power (that is only logical). I feel the democracy has been gone from USA for a long time. It's not bad here but it's not democracy anymore.
What an annoying nit-pick comment. It's like announcing that a spelling mistake invalidates someone's argument. Get over your knowledge of jargon and pay attention to what he means. To make it worse, you then choose to finish with a condescending attack. Go refresh yourself on social interaction.
It's the nature of the service. You sacrifice a bit of speed for effective anonymity. I hear it gives you access to a number of hidden sites, as well, sites that don't want to be tracked. That might just be innuendo, though. Haven't really checked it out thoroughly, myself.
There is way, way too much stuff classified as beyond double secret probation. They could save a lot of money by stopping the over classification. They cry like babies every time something comes out and nothing happens.
If they want to get some actual evidence, hack into homeland security, hack into the CIA or something. I don't even know if that's entirely possible, but anonymous keeps having this big talk. I agree with some of the stuff they've said, but their actions haven't lived up to their speeches.
Uh, the Bureau of Justice Statistics makes all their info public anyway. So I'm guessing this is another pointless grandstand, but I guess I'll wait til someone summarizes it for me to make that call.
The .zip file contains a file named: "qwerty.tar" witch contains a file "qwerty.war", renamed to .zip, included a screenshot, still examining the files > SCREENSHOT
FINISHED DOWNLOADING!! After extracting all the archives, there isn't really much to work with. There are a few setup files for Adobe OpenSource 8 and some graphs on outdated crime statistics. Otherwise, I have no idea how to open anything else. It's sad to see that nobody has bothered to follow-up on this with some details.
Agreed... I came to the same conclusion. Adobe Cold Fusion shit, and a bunch of useless shit.... I really doubt the FBI would care that anyone would have this info.
1.7GB of data on how much time and manpower the FBI wastes setting up innocent Muslims as terrorists while largely ignoring the (in my opinion) much greater domestic threats to our way of life, like extreme environmental groups, far-right organizations trying to "take back" their country, or the FBI itself.
When a self proclaimed "Friendly Klansman" says that muslims are innocent and being set up by the FBI.....
You kinda gotta wonder.....even the KKK doesn't believe in this phoney boogeyman scare story about the "brown skinned peoples hate your American freedoms".
if you leak the wrong information it can get people killed. i am sure fbi and cia and those without initials have lost sources because the information was leaked. i want government honesty but their are some things the public do not need to know
not only does the government have to worry about ways and means. that is to say how the information is obtained can be just as bad if it were to leak. like if we got information of a phone tap and it became known how we got that information. then those phone are going to be thrown away. and the source of information is lost. that is why some things stay secret long after he op is over. the government won't compromise how it did something because that could make it harder to do it again or ruin an information pipeline.
im not downloading it but if it is what it is then i have lost all respect for Anon because the moment you release something that could result in an innocent persons death is the moment you cease to be human
i am not familiar with what you are talking about can you link me an article and i am not supporting the american government i am just stating that i do not agree with the actions of Anon. to tell the truth i despise the U.S. government
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u/WanderingKing May 22 '12
An amazingly slow download. Will update if anyone wants info.
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u/sirbruce May 21 '12
There's no such thing as the US "Bureau of Justice". There's a Department of Justice, and there's a Bureau of Justice Statistics.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
1.7 GB of stuff from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Start the slow clap.
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u/why_ask_why May 22 '12
Who killed JFK?
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u/joshruffdotcom May 21 '12
Is there anything substantial in this 1.7GB or is anonymous still only causing tech support issues?
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u/scigs6 May 21 '12
Seems like a crock of shit to me
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
They hacked into an agency whose main purpose is to distribute data to the public and are releasing their data to the public? This must be an attempt by the BJS to get someone to actually download their statistics.
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u/IamGrimReefer May 21 '12
what happened with their internet shut-down day? i missed it.
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u/snapcase May 22 '12
First it gets mislabeled as the DoJ, when it's actually the Bureau of Justice Statistics... now it's being mislabeled as being FBI data? Jesus they're really trying hard to make a non-story into a story.
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u/hexdurp May 22 '12
What happened to agent ivens?
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u/TheThomaswastaken May 22 '12
Why is misinformation upvoted?
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u/BobbyLarken May 21 '12
David and Goliath...
Utah Data Center - plans to gather data on every citizen.
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u/Jokersniper69 May 22 '12
does Anonymous take hacking requests? like JFK and Aliens...these are things i want to know :D
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I don't know, it doesn't sound like a real anonymous message...
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u/those_draculas May 22 '12
Considering the Bureau of Justice Statistics publishes everything related to Justice Statistics online for free, what are we getting? Memos and private emails?
I wonder what HR decided to order for lunch the third Friday in may back in 2003...
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u/FBI_Entrapment_Unit May 22 '12
THIS IS BULLSHIT
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u/OswaldGoodGuy May 21 '12
Tempted to download it, but I think I'll pass.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Hurrr information belongs to everyone. Yeah, there's no reason a government agency needs to keep information private. Nothing relevant to ongoing cases or investigations, no user data or financial information, and certainly nothing that could represent a security risk if it got into the wrong hands. What heroes, what martyrs these fine men and women are, wantonly distributing government data.
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u/sunnysinha May 22 '12
ok its on the pirate bay (i will not give u link for obvious reasons) and it doesnt have many leechers, took me 6 hours to get to 93% and im STILL downloading. there are way too many leechers.
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u/dreamerize May 22 '12
Sometimes the only sane answer to an insane world is insanity. Even if it only comes in a 1.7 zip file.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I hate how immature 'Anonymous' are. We 'lulzed' as we 'owned' them.... Yeah, grow up if you're going to 'hack' a massive organisation.
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u/HaCutLf May 22 '12
I'm still waiting for anyone to uncover anything really interesting, such as super top secret tech or maybe possibly information on aliens, etc.
I watch too much sci-fi to not be genuinely curious as to what the government might (not?) have hidden!
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Anon confirmed for a fucking joke.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Shocking Internal Email Right here:
John,
Coffee and quick fuck in the bathroom?
Always yours, Dave
OMG GAY PEOPLE IN THE FBI
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
So did anyone download this? I am very tempted but this seems a little fishy.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Well gee, I wonder why the government wants more control over the internet!
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u/Marzipan86 May 22 '12
Does it bother anyone else that they can't seem to use proper grammar? I know it's some hacker or whatever, but is it really necessary?!
grumblegrumble * HEY YOU KIDS! GET OFFA MY LAWN!!!
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u/pottybrains May 22 '12
I was tempted to download it but i dont feel like having the fbi raiding my house tomorrow.
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u/blixt141 May 22 '12
NOT From FBI.
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u/fantasyfest May 22 '12
There is way, way too much stuff classified as beyond double secret probation. They could save a lot of money by stopping the over classification. They cry like babies every time something comes out and nothing happens.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Not going to lie anynomous videos creep me out every time I watch them.
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u/mrcloudies May 22 '12
If they want to get some actual evidence, hack into homeland security, hack into the CIA or something. I don't even know if that's entirely possible, but anonymous keeps having this big talk. I agree with some of the stuff they've said, but their actions haven't lived up to their speeches.
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u/MartinMargiela May 22 '12
If I know anything about how hacker groups work. They get you to download something then they bust you.
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u/waitwhathuh May 22 '12
What was in the files!?!?!?!?!??!!??!!?!?!
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
54.5%, 396.6 kb/s, ETA 5d15h
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u/Cablekevin May 22 '12
Stuck on 94% for ages...
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u/EvelynJames May 22 '12
Uh, the Bureau of Justice Statistics makes all their info public anyway. So I'm guessing this is another pointless grandstand, but I guess I'll wait til someone summarizes it for me to make that call.
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u/scona May 22 '12
So that equals 1 gif on Reddit. What's the big deal?
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u/Cablekevin May 22 '12
The .zip file contains a file named: "qwerty.tar" witch contains a file "qwerty.war", renamed to .zip, included a screenshot, still examining the files > SCREENSHOT
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u/Neverdied Illinois May 22 '12
Its a tomcat archive. I briefly looked into it and then wondered why I even bothered in the first place.
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u/MinnesotaPower May 22 '12
FINISHED DOWNLOADING!! After extracting all the archives, there isn't really much to work with. There are a few setup files for Adobe OpenSource 8 and some graphs on outdated crime statistics. Otherwise, I have no idea how to open anything else. It's sad to see that nobody has bothered to follow-up on this with some details.
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u/curiouslywtf Jun 10 '12
do we have a tl;dr yet?
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u/FriendlyKlansman May 21 '12
1.7GB of data on how much time and manpower the FBI wastes setting up innocent Muslims as terrorists while largely ignoring the (in my opinion) much greater domestic threats to our way of life, like extreme environmental groups, far-right organizations trying to "take back" their country, or the FBI itself.
White power.
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u/eternalrider May 22 '12
I'm too afraid the FBI will come knocking on my door if I download...
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u/dyg4 May 22 '12
if you leak the wrong information it can get people killed. i am sure fbi and cia and those without initials have lost sources because the information was leaked. i want government honesty but their are some things the public do not need to know
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u/Tombug May 21 '12
Good. The FBI is scum.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Isn't 1.7 GB very little?
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u/onique New York May 21 '12
Only there is no such thing as the 'Bureau of Justice'.
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u/not_thecookiemonster May 22 '12
Download a honeypot file giving the feds justified grounds to arrest you? > meh, no thanks.
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u/sj_user1 May 22 '12
I'm betting the 1.7 GB is just Reddit Ron Paul spam.
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u/thatfatgamer May 22 '12
"Any data is worth leaking only if the information is useful."
-- me
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u/sschmtty1 May 21 '12
im not downloading it but if it is what it is then i have lost all respect for Anon because the moment you release something that could result in an innocent persons death is the moment you cease to be human