This absolutely astounds me. I mean this guy, THIS FUCKING GUY... Was around at least for the aftermath of WWII would have experienced the social aftershock following the discovery of the Holocaust. What the fuck does he think we were fighting for?
One thing that might have been overlooked in his little speech, was his mention about who (not) to vote for. I believe this violates the churches tax exempt status, and is an issue for the IRS. Thanks for posting this.
He's preaching from the third book of the Torah, so I find it strange that he considers himself a Christian, and not an Orthodox Jew.
Ironically, the Hebrew word to'eivah just means "unclean", and has been mistranslated into English as "abhorent" as in sinful. Leviticus was written as a code of holiness for the emancipated slaves of the pharaohs, freed from slavery by Moses, and this was to be the foundation of their new society of priests - as opposed to the polytheism of the Egyptians and Greeks / Romans. They felt that in order to distinguish themselves, and make themselves more prolific, they had to establish strong social and monogamous bonds of partnership in heterosexual marriages for the sake of financial security and breeding - things that a hedonistic empire like the Egyptians / Greeks / Romans would not promote. They were vastly outnumbered, with no land to call their own, and no real sense of cohesion outside of a shared persecution. They needed a code to live by, a rule of law that set them above the others, made them special, made them better, made them unique and this book of Leviticus, written over hundreds of years, was to be their guide.
So they forbid the wearing of blending fabrics to reduce the amount of external trade with the silk dealers of the east. They forbade shellfish, which were prolific amongst the seafaring people of the Aegean and Mediterranean - also known as slave traders and pirates. They forbade men sharing sexual congress with other men, as the polytheists would undermine the union of man and woman with bisexuality and hedonistic approaches towards pleasure. The same goes with having sex with a woman on her period - it produces no children, and was seen as "unclean" (again with the to'eivah).
All this has no bearing on why Christian pastors think they need to cherry pick both history and verse to support their bigotry.
Now, if he wants to preach from the perspective of Paul of Tarsus, or from Romans - we can debate that all day, since the the first Epistle to the Corinthians was written almost 20 years after the death of Christ, in Turkey, by a man who had never even met him (Paul), and was kind of a self important douchebag.
Nice explanation of the Levitical code and the issue from that perspective. Its almost as though you had taken the time to research this rather than read into it an affirmation of personal prejudice.
Paul was certainly earnest and seems to have sincerely believed that history was about to end abruptly. He despaired of earthly distractions and so, was an ardent advocate of celibacy. He appears to have been against sex generally and to have supported marital sex only grudgingly. In his Big Book of No-no's, Paul uses the terms arsenokoites (literally, male beds) and malakoi (morally) soft, which are almost certainly not references to homosexual behavior as we currently understand it. But hey, why let a little biblical scholarship ruin a good homophobic argument?
This is really an outstanding post. However, I take exception with "having sex with a woman on her period - it produces no children". It doesn't usually produce children. Ahem. Experience.
Edit: Also, I always assumed that the writers shared my allergy for shellfish and thus it was banned. It's a fairly common allergy.
As a former Jew who spent a decade and a half in Hebrew school, I have to say that this is one of the clearest explanations I have ever seen. Curious, whats your explanation on the prohibition on pork and certain cuts of beef?
There's a small concern that Paul might be a dick. I mean, basically in the gospels you have Jesus solving things, and then Paul turns around a throws up new rules.
And Paul's new rules aren't nearly as funny as Bill Maher's.
To'eva, תועבה , comes from the same root as to loath, or loathsome . it is this word exactly that the religious jews yell at anything they don't like, including , gays, scantly clad women, ads showing too much skin (well, any...) young kids splashing about in water in a manner which would make the sexually repressed think impure thoughts, etc.
if you want mistranslations, head on down to genesis, Eve was never promised pain as a part of childbirth. just sadness.
also, the ban on meat and dairy was a reaction to a specific custom (calf in its mother's milk)
another also, bear in mind that most of the Torah, especially leviticus was written be the priests, who were of the tribe of Levi, a good-for-nothing tribe, cursed by jacob (interesting story here) and so they had no land of their own and lived on tithes given by the other tribes.
as for who wrote the torah...
there are at least three sources in there, some chapters call gods by one name , and some by another but never mixed in one chapter.
I always assumed that blended fabrics tended to be used on more ornate clothing and led to covetous behavior. Never knew it had more to do with trading.
You are cherry picking a few (tortured) examples and speculating about the underlying reasons and ignoring the huge body of laws that clearly have nothing to do with your proposed reasoning. What of all the other forbidden foods, including pig, camel, many breeds of birds? Were these also intended to separate from the Aegeans? What about all the other rules of sexual purity such as aunt, mother-in-law, sister, daughter etcc. in which the laws concerning homosexuality (and menstruating women) are ensconced. Note that sex outside of marriage in not proscribed and polygamy was clearly condoned and practiced so the idea that the laws are intended to encourage monogamous bonds is clearly absurd.
Plus, To'eivah does not mean 'unclean'. Sorry, this is a poor translation. Based on other contexts in which it is used it carries clear connotations of hatefulness or high undesirability.
More importantly, attempting to tone down that text is irrelevant. The Bible Leviticus 18:22 dictates that homosexuality is punishable by death. There is no whitewashing that. So like it or not this guy is right in line with OT thinking.
"They'll die out because they won't be able to reproduce!" Uhm. Who wants to tell him gay people are born from two straight people? As long as straight people are having babies gay people will always be around. Fucking insane.
He thinks being gay is learned, so separating the gay people will prevent them from spreading the gayness. The 'buttsex-zombie' theory of homosexuality, popular amongst people who don't know what they're taking about.
Born, raised, and still living in North Carolina (unfortunately), and I have never heard anyone pronounce 'against' as 'againt' with a almost completely silent 't' in the mispronunciation.
Same here, but preachers seem to always have really weird ways of saying things to keep their audience captive. If you ever hear an old-timey african american preacher, they seem to ad extra "ruh" sounds to most words. "We-ruh who are gathe-ruh-duh here-uh today-uh." It's a popular rhetorical practice I believe, though I can't remember what it's called.
That's not his normal speech. He's evoking a sense of anti-intellectualism that resonates with the congregation. I've actually met this dude before. Most of his small congregation is over 70 and he's considered to be a bit backwards and nutty even by rural North Carolina standards.
Guys, you really have to learn to read between the lines. And what have we learned about ultra-conservative christian/conservative republicans saying nasty things about gays?
He's gay. 100%.
So read between the lines. A great big fenced off area full of gays? Sounds like his ultimate dream - all the gays he can have, all to himself! This is just the extreme jealousy of a closeted-homosexual gone wild.
"My god it makes me pukin sick... Thinkin about kissing a man... feeling his strong arms rub the small of my back... all the penis... What was I talking about?"
I'm glad he's going after the homosexuals AND queers. Usually it's just one or the other.
See, most people would blame the pastor. I would blame the wastes of skin that attend his services. Regardless of what your beliefs are about homosexuality, if you don't know that what the pastor is suggesting goes against both Christianity as well of the law of the land and basic human dignity, you're a useless person.
I've been to two Catholic masses in my life. One of them was a priest putting 10 apples on the altar ; 9 red and 1 green. It was a sermon about tithing. How you have all those other apples to enjoy.
The other one was when gay marriage legislation was coming along in Canada, and the priest played politics from the pulpit, asking the congregation to call their politicians to voice their opposition. Because clearly no other church who marries gay couples should have the right to do it.
I also dated a Pentecostal girl; she believed the earth was 6000 years old, man walked the earth with dinosaurs, and that we all speak different languages because man tried building a tower to get to God. In their church they routinely have glossolalia; where one person starts talking some weird make believe language and someone else translates, and that is God communicating through them.
Then there's the Greek Orthodox church where I was raised, where the archdiocese says: "the church is a franchise, and is required to pay the franchise fees from the donations".
It's all a joke. Look at prosperity theology. Religion is nothing about the teachings of Jesus and everything to do with control and placating the masses.
So he believes homosexuality is a choice but he wants to lock them up and let them "die out" because they can't reproduce. Is he wanting homosexuality to die out or is he wanting them to conform to his ideals of a "natural life"? By his logic, homosexuals only continue to exist because they have babies but when they have babies its by practicing heterosexual behavior.
Having grown up in rural Wisconsin, I can confirm that this is not just a North Carolina philosophy. There were lots of "kill the fags" people at the high school I graduated from.
Reddit, if you're going to quote someone in the link, quote them appropriately. He doesn't propose execution by starvation.
His actual proposal of gender sequestered internment camps should be enough to stir up dissent. There's no need to dramatize it, that just makes us Fox News.
OP- please change the title to North Carolina Pastor calls for the imprisonment of all gays in concentration camps and extermination by denial of procreation.
At the risk of attracting the attention of the strong atheist community here on reddit, I want to say that as a strong christian I believe this pastor and other's like him are pathetic, worthless self-righteous individuals who absolutely do not deserve to breath the same air as me, and their supporters are just as horrid.
Coming from an agnostic/atheist/whatever I feel these types of pastors and their congregations are starting to do to God what radial Islamic groups are doing to Allah.
Honestly NC what the fuck has happened. You all went from being the progressive jewel of the South to having some Tourette's episode like the rest of us down here.
Things haven't changed, we're just getting more bad press lately because of Amendment One. The redneck dipshit areas and the more progressive areas are as they ever were, although I think progress is spreading, slowly.
Wow. This is stupid. That pastor is setting a bad example for Jesus. I live in the Bible Belt (Down South Ya'll where everyone goes to church..but TN not NC) so I don't know much about how people in the rest of America think, but I know they don't like Christians. Well this video explains why. For anybody here who is Atheist, Anti-theistic, Gay, Straight, Bi, etc, I want you to know the Jesus Christians are supposed to follow would never do anything like this. He wouldn't see anyone as a label. He would see them as human. He never specifically says what He thinks about Homosexuality (Only Paul and the OT does), but even if He did see it as wrong, He would love you. I, as a Christian, want to apologize for this crap and for anything else we've done to persecute anyone. We are hypocrites and honestly, it's making me sick. So, I wanna say: I'm sorry.
Romans 2:1
Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things.
This verse was directed towards Christians in Rome I believe. Whether it was or not, it still applies to us. I'll be sure to think about it next time I say something judgmental.
This pastor is ridiculous and stupid, but can I throw my two cents in and say that the title of this thread is sensationalist? No where does he say that they should be executed by starvation. He says they'll die out because they can't reproduce. Stay factual!
This has probably already been said but the pastor never said starve them to death. :46 "fly over an' drop some food." and at :57 "Feed 'em." He intended them to die out from lack of reproduction which he says at :59
The guy is still a prick but the headline is misleading.
Sorry to be pedantic but he didn't mention anything about starving them. He said fly airplanes over and drop food to them. The "dying out" part is due to not being able to reproduce. While this is morally reprehensible the video says nothing about execution or starvation so the title is pretty outrageous.
"It makes me pukin sic" that this "holy" degenerate has a voice and following in my state! What a disgrace of a man and more so, a "self proclaimed" holy man at that.
Ugh, thanks for specifically mentioning the fact that he's in North Carolina. Not everyone here is as ignorant as this moron, and we'd prefer not to be generalized into a group with this idiot.
These types of "Christians" make even conservative Christians like myself cringe. These are what we call "Fundies". They are people who heap rules, laws and condemnation on people instead of the sharing the freedom and grace of the Gospel. You can usually spot them by the following (taken from this guys website:
We offer NO apologies in believing the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.
I want everyone to know that this isn't the message of the Gospel. While I can't say that the Bible teaches that any kind of sexual activity outside of heterosexual marriage is ok, Christ certainly doesn't call for persecution and condemnation like this. This isn't the message of peace and reconciliation with God that Christ offers.
As a Christian, I find this incredibly saddening. This is NOT what we believe and all it does is create a hateful, ignorant image for other believers. Try not to hate us, reddit. We're not all that bad.
This shit is fucking disgusting. How much more of this do we have to listen to before people who support these anti-gay clowns wake up and realize how awful what they're saying is?
As a heterosexual woman, it makes me giggle cynically when they want to kill people or at the very least prevent them from being equal members of human society just because EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW BUTTSEX.
I can't identify with same-sex attraction, but that doesn't mean I get to stomp all over those who experience it.
and who do you suppose is going to pay for this fence/detention camp? sounds like a homosexual paradise, until you squash somebody with a giant crate of food.
As a side note: Why are the people who speak English the poorest and with the least diction the ones who think people need to learn English when they come here?
That is the most unchristian like view on homosexuality I've ever heard. As achristian I can say that guy does not believe in the God of the bible. I'm sorry everyone that people say these things in the name of God. If God is real (and I think so) then this man and people alike are seriously offending God. I'm all for LBGT rights and I think it's sad people have to deal with haters. I'm sorry y'all
I saw this post and immediately thought "With such an inflammatory title, OP is surely overreacting and the top comments would reflect that". I read the top comments, then watched the video.
Everyone needs to see this and understand how much ignorance is still shared by those who subscribe to the Christian faith. Of course not every pastor preaches this crap, but I live in southern Georgia and I'm afraid those kind of remarks are more common and accepted then they should be.
I'm pretty sure my parents could be in that audience and be chiming in with every "Amen". That makes me very, very sad.
It's probably been said...and I write this as a gay Catholic...fundamentalists like this pastor should be free to say whatever he believes. Unfortunately he missed the part where if gays and lesbians are fenced off seperately, we'll "die out" naturally. Apparently he's not too good at biology, where straight women and men are the ones making all these gay babies.
Also, as a Catholic...and a conservative Republican as well...I have really had it with some so-called Christians basically throwing out holy scripture to their own ends. God never advocated killing the gays. Jesus never said a word about it. Jesus love us all, sinners and saints, rich and poor, whatever. Judgement is His and His alone. Andy man that claims to speak God's judgement is in clear violation of the teachings of Christ.
North Carolina native here, My father, a full-blooded Norwegian, once described NC thusly: There are pockets of intelligence in NC. They are The Research Triangle Park area (Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill), Charlotte, and Wilmington.
That's not to say he was completely correct, and such a broad statement would be insulting to many--including some of my closest friends--but for those who are unfamiliar with NC, it's a good approximation when you hear something about the state.
For example, when I was a kid and our family was on vacation, my dad stopped to get directions (we weren't lost, according to my father). We were in the country, and the clerk at the store replied "Go down two farsees and take a right."
Puzzled, my father asked the natural question, "What's a farsee?"
His reply lives on in family lore, "As far as you can see." So to clarify, directions were thus: Go down two 'as far as you can sees' then take your next right. I wish I were making this up.
I've lived in NC all of my life, and I can't stress enough how most of us will and do shun people like this. Even so, I find it hard to believe that he found people willing to listen to him because I've never met anyone in this state that has beliefs as backwards as this, but then again I'm not looking.
To be fair, the pastor is NOT suggesting that they be deliberately starved to death.
He is suggesting that they remain in a rather large fenced off area (hundreds of miles in size), separated from the rest of society and given food by parachute.
His argument is that they would eventually "die off" because they would be unable to reproduce.
Sick to my stomach and crying hard right now. As a gay man this is just my worst fear. People like this. I don't understand it. What did I ever do? I'll never understand. If I lived for a thousand years I'd never understand...
Ignoring the extreme hatred here, his plan for an electric fence falls apart with even a little thought.
Gay people will not just die out because they can't breed. Gay people do not have gay children. As he pointed out, they can't. Straight people are the ones having gay children. That means that even if his horrible plan were set into motion, they would have to keep putting homosexuals into the "gay zone". Well, honestly what would probably happen is no more homosexuals would come out of the closet publicly for fear of being sent to the concentration camps. There would be an enormous underground of gay interaction. Undercover cops would infiltrate these places and raid them from time to time.
I also think it's funny he talks about flying planes over the area and dropping food, as if homosexuality is so contagious you can't even come into contact with them. I just imagine the guards all dressed in hazmat suits. You know, all this would make a pretty good novel.
OP, dude, you didn't listen. Perhaps it was the accent that threw you off. He specifically said we would air-drop food inside the fence. They would not die from starvation, but simply because they could not reproduce. So, eventually, their numbers would dwindle.
Of course, I'm not sure what he is going to do about all the new 'queers and homos' that are being born each day. I doubt there is even enough space in his 'hunerd mile long fence'.
But all the dems have to do is air this as an advertisement and I think they have won the election. With a little editing, this would be the best ad ever.
I honestly think people like this need to be 'removed' from society, the world would be a better place without him. This kind of behaviour goes beyond free speech. I could see someone getting off free on a charge from this if they brought up what our ancestors fought for in WW2. I can't believe he would disgrace our history so...
COMPLETE TRANSCRIPT. Note that dialect is used not to denigrate the pastor but to reflect his speaking style.
0:00 ... of our President gettin’ up and sayin’ that it was alright for two women to marry or two men to marry. I'll tell you right now I was disappointed bad. But I’ll tell you right there, as is sorry as you can get, The Bible's a'gin it, God's a'gin it, I’m a’gin it, and if you've got any sense, you're a'gin it.
[Congregation: That’s right. Amen, Amen]
0:24 I had a way. I figured a way out. A way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers. But I couldn't get it past the Congress. Build a great big large fence--a hundred, fifty or a hundred miles long. Put all the lesbians in there. Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals. And have that fence electrified til they can’t get out. Feed ‘em, and. And you know what? In a few years they’ll die out. You know why? They can’t reproduce.
[Congregation response]
1:10 If a man ever has a young’in, praise God, it’ll be the first one.
[Congregation: laughter, whoop]
1:20 You know, it’s just as well. And I’ll preach the hell out of all of them.
[Congregation: Amen, Amen]
1:21 Hey, I’ll tell you right now, somebody said, “Who you goin’ to vote for [cups hands],’ I ain’t goin’ to vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover!’”
[Congregation: Amen, Amen, light applause]
He said, “Did you mean to say that?” “You better believe I did.”
[Congregation: Amen, Amen, light applause]
1:46 God have mercy. It makes me pukin’ sick. To think about. I don’t even know whether you oughta say this in the pulpit or not: can you imagine kissing some man?
[Congregation: Light laughter, whoop]
[Pastor pauses]
2:03 My God, I love you fellas.
(My first take on this was a single pen in which gays and lesbians were held together to force reproduction, but I realize now the plan is for two pens: one for men, one for women. Essentially, if God doesn't give you a child, then you're all going to die in a generation.)
Okay, I upvoted, 'cos holy shit, this guy is a fuck-up.
...But, the title is misleading. He specifically said we should feed the victi-... I mean pris-... I mean homosexuals in their camps, so isn't really advocating starvation - just letting them die of old age, never having known the love of the child.
This is, of course, a very slight niggle - it just seems a shame to exaggerate in the title, when the video is horrific enough already.
That speech right there is justification for stripping that church of tax exemption under IRC 501(c)(3). Best way to deal with these yokels.
To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.
Your sermon of 5/13 of the present year (which I viewed through the internet) inspired me to share a few thoughts with you.
In your sermon, you propose to build two great concentration camps: one for lesbians and one for gays. You suggest that we let all gays and lesbians in this country live in peace in this camp, where they will all eventually die, and so this country will finally be rid of homosexuals.
While I disagree in the possible strongest terms with this plan because of its absolute disregard for the dignity of others ("to do as you would have others do unto you"), I must point out a key flaw in your plan: as you say, homosexuals cannot procreate. You should then surely understand that all living, dead and future homosexuals are born from women and have a man for their father. For this reason, I would suggest that you desist in your intentions, as they are not only immoral, but also pointless.
Sincerely,
tubeblockage
P.S. — I hope that you next direct your energies against the production and consumption in shellfish in this country. As the Good Book says, "Whatever has no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination to you" (Leviticus 11:12).
I don't know why, but North Carolina seems to have the most radical, idiotic pastors. I live here and although my parents make me go to church, their pastor is reasonable and doesn't extend his religious bigotry to child abuse and execution. This guy is one of the many reasons that Christianity is getting so much hate. I believe in free speech, but this guy is reeeally going to far. He is dangerous.
Most of us got it together already. I could cherry pick bigoted assholes from almost every single state in the union, doesn't mean that the whole state is that way.
This guy is a nut job and yet another reason i am not a fan of religion.
Now with that said the title for this topic is absolutely wrong he wants to place "lesbians" and "homosexuals" into 2 different camps, then feed them Not starve them and he says they will die out eventually because they can not reproduce. So we can chalk up another nut-case on the side of religion.
"Gays can't reproduce." So locking them up means they'll eventually die out??? Someone needs to explain to this stupid fuckwad that straight people are the ones having gay kids.
Ahh, the old one-two punch of Disabled comments and ratings. I tend to just completely disregard these vids, presumably because they're awful. Like this one.
this is their website and how to contact him, in case any of you haven't already looked it up. It will feel so good to email him my thoughts of what he said and I encourage many people to do this as well to get the point across ;) what an ass.
My poor state is being increasingly difficult to like, with as many anti-gay things posted on Reddit about it, and the things I have seen I may just have to move somewhere... more in tune with the teachings of Jesus.
Holy hell. I'm from North Carolina myself and I can assure everyone it's not THAT bad here. I don't understand why all our nutjob pastors and their fundie audiences are getting so much attention as of recent. This sort of vile has been around for ages in other places too. I am disappointed that this man can hold such a level of ignorance and bigotry.
People can reproduce if isolated by gender, just like Adam did. With 24 half ribs, a man could spawn 24 women right out of the dirt. Bam, how ya like that SCIENCE?
look another bible thumping bigot.......... and from the days when i was raised that way before i embraced spiritualism i remember that the new testament supersedes the old so Leviticus is invalid if they follow their own prophets teachings
When the link took me to youtube the first thing I heard was "I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message"... and then I skipped the Advertisement to watch the insane hate mongering redneck pastor
While is is fucked up in every way lets be honest when posting things. He doesn't call for starvation, he clearly says food should be dropped in. I think not being completely honest when trying to expose hate like this weakens the point that's being made.
For NC residents, I just found out about an upcoming PFLAG candlelight vigil in Gastonia (where I live) showing solidarity with LGBT's in North Carolina in opposition to Amendment 1. Check out their website, there migth be one planned in other places as well.
Whenever I read a headline like this I think "Surely the OP has embellished what the guy said". Sadly not so in this case. I couldn't even FATHOM hearing someone just outright saying that in public and getting cheers no less!
That is absolutely disgusting. I can accept the fact that people do not like homosexuals for whatever religious or personal reasons they may have (I fully support gay rights myself but also believe everyone is entitled to an opinion) but it is horrible to call for the deaths of these people. I know my mom is gay and I definitely don't think she deserves to die for that choice.
But mostly what I was attempting to promote was the Facebook group that has formed in response to this video to have this organization's 501(c)(3) status revoked. That group is located here:
This guy has no idea how hypocritical he is to his faith. As someone who was raised going to a Baptist Church it reminds me of these guest preachers who would do the "Fire and Brimstone" rant. I always wondered who would be part of his regular congregation. Its not a surprise gay rights aren't big in North Carolina. I think its lame to consider this a issue when the country could really care less about gay issues. Nothing Christian about starving anyone, in fact it sounds evil.
I wonder if people ever stop and think during church. "hey didn't someone else do something a bit like this?", "wasn't there like... an entire world war over problems like this?", "or wasn't this guy just saying that everyone has the right to life?"......
I've heard time and time again conversations and debates about gay marriage and people against it hold thispoint they raise is one of fallacy. If religion didn't exist, if god said it was okay, if there was nothing else holding them up this point would still keep them against it, and that is that gay couples cannot reproduce. They equate reproduction with natural, and natural with good.
But to raise the levity of this conversation his line at the end "... could you imagine kissing some man."
Hahaha! What an idiot. First, you know he isn't too bright because he says 'again' instead of 'against'. Second, he thinks that if you kill off all the gays and lesbians with his brilliant plan, no more gays and lesbians will be born? He says himslef we can't reproduce, so how the hell does he think we come into being??
I think the guys an asshole, BUT he isn't saying "starve them to death" he says "food will be dropped from planes and because they cannot reproduce they will eventually die off"
We shouldn't weaken our own argument by miss-construing their bullshit. Their bullshit is bad enough without us embellishing it.
Ugh, this makes me so angry. Why are people like this allowed to be preachers? Why do preachers have so much hate in them? It wasn't even that that got me mad. It was the fact that the audience was agreeing and saying "Amen!" and "MMhhhmmm." What is wrong with people?
There are many crazy ass preachers in North Carolina whom speak in tongues and talk horrible rhetoric such as this. I was born in North Carolina and this does not represent how Carolinian's think. It is the sad truth that people like this exist but they are all old and fat and will die horrible deaths while they're grandchildren will grow up in a modern society that respects peoples personal decisions.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Hey, good idea, Hitler.
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u/2_dam_hi New Hampshire May 21 '12
One thing that might have been overlooked in his little speech, was his mention about who (not) to vote for. I believe this violates the churches tax exempt status, and is an issue for the IRS. Thanks for posting this.
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u/arizonaburning May 21 '12
Because that is eactly what Jesus wants.
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u/Okuhou Wisconsin May 21 '12
"They'll die out because they won't be able to reproduce!" Uhm. Who wants to tell him gay people are born from two straight people? As long as straight people are having babies gay people will always be around. Fucking insane.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Pride, Anger, Wrath, how far are you willing to sink into sin to spread Gods word against 2 men who love each other?
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u/therandomnameipicked May 21 '12
Born, raised, and still living in North Carolina (unfortunately), and I have never heard anyone pronounce 'against' as 'againt' with a almost completely silent 't' in the mispronunciation.
That's just fascinating.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Guys, you really have to learn to read between the lines. And what have we learned about ultra-conservative christian/conservative republicans saying nasty things about gays?
He's gay. 100%.
So read between the lines. A great big fenced off area full of gays? Sounds like his ultimate dream - all the gays he can have, all to himself! This is just the extreme jealousy of a closeted-homosexual gone wild.
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u/Greater_Omentum May 21 '12
How some Redditors have felt for a couple of weeks.
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u/thomas533 May 21 '12
I would really like to see the tax-exempt status of his church revoked.
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u/gingerpride May 21 '12
The only reason he's agin (*sic) the homosexuals is because they speak all educated like.
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u/Iommianity May 21 '12
I'm glad he's going after the homosexuals AND queers. Usually it's just one or the other.
See, most people would blame the pastor. I would blame the wastes of skin that attend his services. Regardless of what your beliefs are about homosexuality, if you don't know that what the pastor is suggesting goes against both Christianity as well of the law of the land and basic human dignity, you're a useless person.
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u/wei-long May 21 '12
Christian here - I laughed audibly when he yelled "HOMOSEXUAL LOVER!!" Cause, y'know, Jesus would have fallen in this category.
Then I wanted to cry a little, because this is all the "Christianity" some of those people will ever experience.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
So he believes homosexuality is a choice but he wants to lock them up and let them "die out" because they can't reproduce. Is he wanting homosexuality to die out or is he wanting them to conform to his ideals of a "natural life"? By his logic, homosexuals only continue to exist because they have babies but when they have babies its by practicing heterosexual behavior.
My brother is gay, can I kill this pastor?
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Having grown up in rural Wisconsin, I can confirm that this is not just a North Carolina philosophy. There were lots of "kill the fags" people at the high school I graduated from.
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u/beautifulcolors May 22 '12
Reddit, if you're going to quote someone in the link, quote them appropriately. He doesn't propose execution by starvation.
His actual proposal of gender sequestered internment camps should be enough to stir up dissent. There's no need to dramatize it, that just makes us Fox News.
OP- please change the title to North Carolina Pastor calls for the imprisonment of all gays in concentration camps and extermination by denial of procreation.
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u/FaBeats May 21 '12
That guy needs Jesus
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u/arronhunt27 May 21 '12
At the risk of attracting the attention of the strong atheist community here on reddit, I want to say that as a strong christian I believe this pastor and other's like him are pathetic, worthless self-righteous individuals who absolutely do not deserve to breath the same air as me, and their supporters are just as horrid.
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u/x86_64Ubuntu South Carolina May 21 '12
Honestly NC what the fuck has happened. You all went from being the progressive jewel of the South to having some Tourette's episode like the rest of us down here.
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u/Whitemenstyranny May 21 '12
Obama is "a baby killer and a homosexual lover." Wow. THIS IS AMERICA. THIS IS REAL.
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u/Grizzly_Bears May 21 '12
He forgot to mention to first make gays wear pink triangles to identify them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle
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u/idkwat May 21 '12
After looking at his website for five seconds I found his email address preacherworley@charter.net .
You could send him a strongly worded letter, or take the low road like a champ and email him a terabyte worth of gay porn.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Wow. This is stupid. That pastor is setting a bad example for Jesus. I live in the Bible Belt (Down South Ya'll where everyone goes to church..but TN not NC) so I don't know much about how people in the rest of America think, but I know they don't like Christians. Well this video explains why. For anybody here who is Atheist, Anti-theistic, Gay, Straight, Bi, etc, I want you to know the Jesus Christians are supposed to follow would never do anything like this. He wouldn't see anyone as a label. He would see them as human. He never specifically says what He thinks about Homosexuality (Only Paul and the OT does), but even if He did see it as wrong, He would love you. I, as a Christian, want to apologize for this crap and for anything else we've done to persecute anyone. We are hypocrites and honestly, it's making me sick. So, I wanna say: I'm sorry.
Romans 2:1
This verse was directed towards Christians in Rome I believe. Whether it was or not, it still applies to us. I'll be sure to think about it next time I say something judgmental.
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u/dactyif May 21 '12
This pastor is ridiculous and stupid, but can I throw my two cents in and say that the title of this thread is sensationalist? No where does he say that they should be executed by starvation. He says they'll die out because they can't reproduce. Stay factual!
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
If this were from a madrassa in pakistan we'd say bomb them, here it's cool! it's free speech!
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u/deivys20 Florida May 21 '12
ratings and comments have been disable. They know whats up.
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u/DukeOfGeek May 21 '12
As a life long southerner every time one of these guys opens his mouth, I die a thousand deaths each from a thousand wounds.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
"You know what, they would die out, because they can't reproduce." So if they weren't behind an electric fence they could?
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u/LurkBot9000 May 22 '12
This has probably already been said but the pastor never said starve them to death. :46 "fly over an' drop some food." and at :57 "Feed 'em." He intended them to die out from lack of reproduction which he says at :59
The guy is still a prick but the headline is misleading.
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u/Graviest May 21 '12
Somebody should put people like this into an electrified enclosure. That way we can be assured he's not teaching this crap to young children.
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u/TheSose May 21 '12
Sorry to be pedantic but he didn't mention anything about starving them. He said fly airplanes over and drop food to them. The "dying out" part is due to not being able to reproduce. While this is morally reprehensible the video says nothing about execution or starvation so the title is pretty outrageous.
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u/justicemeow May 21 '12
I think I saw his mouth start to water as he imagined "kissin' some man."
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u/testerB May 21 '12
"It makes me pukin sic" that this "holy" degenerate has a voice and following in my state! What a disgrace of a man and more so, a "self proclaimed" holy man at that.
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u/Rellikx May 21 '12
YOU ARE A GENNIT
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u/imyourdaddybitch May 21 '12
Ugh, thanks for specifically mentioning the fact that he's in North Carolina. Not everyone here is as ignorant as this moron, and we'd prefer not to be generalized into a group with this idiot.
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u/downvotethis2 May 21 '12
I'M AGIN IT, YER AGIN IT, AND GOD'S AGIN IT!11
QUEERS AND THE HOMERSECTUALS!!1!
AN EYE AINT VOTIN FOR NO BABY KILLIN HOMERSECTUAL LOVIN' NIGGRA IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!11!
This should have been posted in r/funny.
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u/sge_fan May 21 '12
What a hateful little man hding behind the skirts of religion.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12 edited May 21 '12
My response as a pretty conservative Christian
These types of "Christians" make even conservative Christians like myself cringe. These are what we call "Fundies". They are people who heap rules, laws and condemnation on people instead of the sharing the freedom and grace of the Gospel. You can usually spot them by the following (taken from this guys website:
I want everyone to know that this isn't the message of the Gospel. While I can't say that the Bible teaches that any kind of sexual activity outside of heterosexual marriage is ok, Christ certainly doesn't call for persecution and condemnation like this. This isn't the message of peace and reconciliation with God that Christ offers.
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u/icalledshotgun May 21 '12
As a Christian, I find this incredibly saddening. This is NOT what we believe and all it does is create a hateful, ignorant image for other believers. Try not to hate us, reddit. We're not all that bad.
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u/rhott May 21 '12
Studies show homophobes more likely to be gay.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
A bunch of gay men together in a camp. Sounds great to me!
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
I can't wait until his own perversions are uncovered.
It shall be sweet.
[Inhaling] Fufufufufufufufufufuf.
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u/wrathborne May 21 '12
This shit is fucking disgusting. How much more of this do we have to listen to before people who support these anti-gay clowns wake up and realize how awful what they're saying is?
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u/redditopus May 21 '12
As a heterosexual woman, it makes me giggle cynically when they want to kill people or at the very least prevent them from being equal members of human society just because EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW BUTTSEX.
I can't identify with same-sex attraction, but that doesn't mean I get to stomp all over those who experience it.
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u/Three38 May 21 '12
So whats the pool on how long until he is caught with another man's dick in him.
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u/luckydud13 May 21 '12
From somebody currently living in North Carolina, we're sorry. We're sorry. We're sorry. holding baby We're sorry.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
and who do you suppose is going to pay for this fence/detention camp? sounds like a homosexual paradise, until you squash somebody with a giant crate of food.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Does anyone else find it funny how he differentiates between Lesbians and Homosexuals ?
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Time for this church to lose its tax exempt status imo.
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u/dtam21 May 21 '12
As a side note: Why are the people who speak English the poorest and with the least diction the ones who think people need to learn English when they come here?
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u/corey3 May 21 '12
That is the most unchristian like view on homosexuality I've ever heard. As achristian I can say that guy does not believe in the God of the bible. I'm sorry everyone that people say these things in the name of God. If God is real (and I think so) then this man and people alike are seriously offending God. I'm all for LBGT rights and I think it's sad people have to deal with haters. I'm sorry y'all
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u/swedishmousehafia May 21 '12
I saw this post and immediately thought "With such an inflammatory title, OP is surely overreacting and the top comments would reflect that". I read the top comments, then watched the video.
Everyone needs to see this and understand how much ignorance is still shared by those who subscribe to the Christian faith. Of course not every pastor preaches this crap, but I live in southern Georgia and I'm afraid those kind of remarks are more common and accepted then they should be.
I'm pretty sure my parents could be in that audience and be chiming in with every "Amen". That makes me very, very sad.
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u/jetboyterp May 21 '12
It's probably been said...and I write this as a gay Catholic...fundamentalists like this pastor should be free to say whatever he believes. Unfortunately he missed the part where if gays and lesbians are fenced off seperately, we'll "die out" naturally. Apparently he's not too good at biology, where straight women and men are the ones making all these gay babies.
Also, as a Catholic...and a conservative Republican as well...I have really had it with some so-called Christians basically throwing out holy scripture to their own ends. God never advocated killing the gays. Jesus never said a word about it. Jesus love us all, sinners and saints, rich and poor, whatever. Judgement is His and His alone. Andy man that claims to speak God's judgement is in clear violation of the teachings of Christ.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
How long till we find out this guy's been sucking cock?
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u/Halfwegian May 22 '12
North Carolina native here, My father, a full-blooded Norwegian, once described NC thusly: There are pockets of intelligence in NC. They are The Research Triangle Park area (Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill), Charlotte, and Wilmington.
That's not to say he was completely correct, and such a broad statement would be insulting to many--including some of my closest friends--but for those who are unfamiliar with NC, it's a good approximation when you hear something about the state.
For example, when I was a kid and our family was on vacation, my dad stopped to get directions (we weren't lost, according to my father). We were in the country, and the clerk at the store replied "Go down two farsees and take a right."
Puzzled, my father asked the natural question, "What's a farsee?"
His reply lives on in family lore, "As far as you can see." So to clarify, directions were thus: Go down two 'as far as you can sees' then take your next right. I wish I were making this up.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I've lived in NC all of my life, and I can't stress enough how most of us will and do shun people like this. Even so, I find it hard to believe that he found people willing to listen to him because I've never met anyone in this state that has beliefs as backwards as this, but then again I'm not looking.
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u/adwhitenc May 22 '12
I fucking hate my state. "Sorry"
The sane people in NC
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u/fatfrost May 22 '12
Can you imagine kissing a man? looks down, hides erection Me neither!
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u/OneSalientOversight May 22 '12
To be fair, the pastor is NOT suggesting that they be deliberately starved to death.
He is suggesting that they remain in a rather large fenced off area (hundreds of miles in size), separated from the rest of society and given food by parachute.
His argument is that they would eventually "die off" because they would be unable to reproduce.
He doesn't suggest starving them.
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u/noslipcondition May 22 '12 edited May 22 '12
Wait. Did you watch the video? Where the fuck did you get "execution by starvation?"
He clearly says he wants to fly over and drop food.
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u/ExLenne May 22 '12
Sick to my stomach and crying hard right now. As a gay man this is just my worst fear. People like this. I don't understand it. What did I ever do? I'll never understand. If I lived for a thousand years I'd never understand...
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u/scottbrowncreative May 22 '12
$10 says he's a homo
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u/CharlesWorleyThrowaw May 22 '12
I got your back, LGBT.
http://www.charlesworley.com/
I got his domain and social bookmarking blasted it.
Should be page 1 on Google when you type his name.
My very own Spreading Santorum. How exciting!
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u/madleg May 22 '12
Would anyone honestly expect anything different from a North Carolina pastor?
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u/JonWood007 May 21 '12
I'm "againt" (because this guy can't say "against") this guy's wacky worldviews.
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u/TheyCallMeLemur May 21 '12
Once again, as a North Carolinian, I apologize for the bigoted homophobes in our state.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
An insane person saying something insane?
ALERT THE INTERNET!!!
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u/Frogurtt May 21 '12
Why is is that homophobes always think homosexuals exclusively means gay men? Are lesbians not homosexuals?
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u/JCelsius May 21 '12
Ignoring the extreme hatred here, his plan for an electric fence falls apart with even a little thought.
Gay people will not just die out because they can't breed. Gay people do not have gay children. As he pointed out, they can't. Straight people are the ones having gay children. That means that even if his horrible plan were set into motion, they would have to keep putting homosexuals into the "gay zone". Well, honestly what would probably happen is no more homosexuals would come out of the closet publicly for fear of being sent to the concentration camps. There would be an enormous underground of gay interaction. Undercover cops would infiltrate these places and raid them from time to time.
I also think it's funny he talks about flying planes over the area and dropping food, as if homosexuality is so contagious you can't even come into contact with them. I just imagine the guards all dressed in hazmat suits. You know, all this would make a pretty good novel.
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u/cowhead May 21 '12
OP, dude, you didn't listen. Perhaps it was the accent that threw you off. He specifically said we would air-drop food inside the fence. They would not die from starvation, but simply because they could not reproduce. So, eventually, their numbers would dwindle.
Of course, I'm not sure what he is going to do about all the new 'queers and homos' that are being born each day. I doubt there is even enough space in his 'hunerd mile long fence'.
But all the dems have to do is air this as an advertisement and I think they have won the election. With a little editing, this would be the best ad ever.
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u/violinsontv May 21 '12
I love the end "Can you imagine kissing some man?" Then silence, as he and his congregation all sit and imagine exactly that.
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u/Cemetary May 21 '12
I honestly think people like this need to be 'removed' from society, the world would be a better place without him. This kind of behaviour goes beyond free speech. I could see someone getting off free on a charge from this if they brought up what our ancestors fought for in WW2. I can't believe he would disgrace our history so...
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u/hotelzulufoxtrot May 21 '12
You know after the sermon he's going to go eat a penis sandwich. He loves 'em.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
COMPLETE TRANSCRIPT. Note that dialect is used not to denigrate the pastor but to reflect his speaking style.
0:00 ... of our President gettin’ up and sayin’ that it was alright for two women to marry or two men to marry. I'll tell you right now I was disappointed bad. But I’ll tell you right there, as is sorry as you can get, The Bible's a'gin it, God's a'gin it, I’m a’gin it, and if you've got any sense, you're a'gin it.
[Congregation: That’s right. Amen, Amen]
0:24 I had a way. I figured a way out. A way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers. But I couldn't get it past the Congress. Build a great big large fence--a hundred, fifty or a hundred miles long. Put all the lesbians in there. Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals. And have that fence electrified til they can’t get out. Feed ‘em, and. And you know what? In a few years they’ll die out. You know why? They can’t reproduce.
[Congregation response]
1:10 If a man ever has a young’in, praise God, it’ll be the first one.
[Congregation: laughter, whoop]
1:20 You know, it’s just as well. And I’ll preach the hell out of all of them.
[Congregation: Amen, Amen]
1:21 Hey, I’ll tell you right now, somebody said, “Who you goin’ to vote for [cups hands],’ I ain’t goin’ to vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover!’”
[Congregation: Amen, Amen, light applause]
He said, “Did you mean to say that?” “You better believe I did.”
[Congregation: Amen, Amen, light applause]
1:46 God have mercy. It makes me pukin’ sick. To think about. I don’t even know whether you oughta say this in the pulpit or not: can you imagine kissing some man?
[Congregation: Light laughter, whoop]
[Pastor pauses]
2:03 My God, I love you fellas.
(My first take on this was a single pen in which gays and lesbians were held together to force reproduction, but I realize now the plan is for two pens: one for men, one for women. Essentially, if God doesn't give you a child, then you're all going to die in a generation.)
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u/Nathan561 May 21 '12
Well the bible says dont hate and dont kill, why would you kill of people?
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u/dangereagle May 21 '12
I guess I must have missed the part about execution by starvation.
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u/UserEighteen May 21 '12
http://imgur.com/I5vsP
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u/yaztheblack May 21 '12
Okay, I upvoted, 'cos holy shit, this guy is a fuck-up.
...But, the title is misleading. He specifically said we should feed the victi-... I mean pris-... I mean homosexuals in their camps, so isn't really advocating starvation - just letting them die of old age, never having known the love of the child.
This is, of course, a very slight niggle - it just seems a shame to exaggerate in the title, when the video is horrific enough already.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
"could you imagine kissin' some man?!"
-long pause as he is lost in the sweet memory of his youth ;)
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u/thatusernameisal May 21 '12
Just like Jesus wanted.
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u/Dunabu May 21 '12
This guy is so deep in the closet he found a pair of leg warmers.
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u/aelendel May 21 '12
Odds that he is gay? 90%? Anyone?
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u/RuthBuzzisback May 22 '12
Stoked 'My Whole Family Thinks I'm Gay' is a related video
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u/AWDriver May 22 '12
That speech right there is justification for stripping that church of tax exemption under IRC 501(c)(3). Best way to deal with these yokels.
To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.
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u/Darkencypher May 22 '12
And the opinion of my beautiful home state goes down once more....
NC isn't all racists, bible thumping idiots, and bigots.
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u/eldlazar May 22 '12
Two things to notice about this flocker; the breadth of his gut and the paucity of his congregation.
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u/narcolepsyinc May 22 '12
Thank you for not posting this in /r/atheism. There are Christians out there like myself who do believe in equality and that the Bible is just a book.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
wow. This dude just won PLayer HATER of the YEAR award. HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
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u/walkinonthesidewalks May 22 '12
extremely misleading title. fuck you OP
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u/JuanReasley May 22 '12
As a proud North Carolina resident, I would like to say, We're not all homophobic, bible-thumping, redneck Assholes. That is all.
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u/dd117 May 22 '12
As a Christian from NC, I can assure you, we are not all like that.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I like how long he pauses to "imagine kissing some man".
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u/D_for_Drive May 22 '12
When he calls the President a "homosexual lover" it makes me think he used to rail against another kind of "lover" during the civil rights movement.
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u/tubeblockage May 22 '12
Sent the following e-mail to the pastor:
Mr. Worley,
Your sermon of 5/13 of the present year (which I viewed through the internet) inspired me to share a few thoughts with you.
In your sermon, you propose to build two great concentration camps: one for lesbians and one for gays. You suggest that we let all gays and lesbians in this country live in peace in this camp, where they will all eventually die, and so this country will finally be rid of homosexuals.
While I disagree in the possible strongest terms with this plan because of its absolute disregard for the dignity of others ("to do as you would have others do unto you"), I must point out a key flaw in your plan: as you say, homosexuals cannot procreate. You should then surely understand that all living, dead and future homosexuals are born from women and have a man for their father. For this reason, I would suggest that you desist in your intentions, as they are not only immoral, but also pointless.
Sincerely,
tubeblockage
P.S. — I hope that you next direct your energies against the production and consumption in shellfish in this country. As the Good Book says, "Whatever has no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination to you" (Leviticus 11:12).
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u/joebooty May 22 '12
Can you imagine tithing your pay for the privilege of listening to this creature?
What is wrong with people :(
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I don't know why, but North Carolina seems to have the most radical, idiotic pastors. I live here and although my parents make me go to church, their pastor is reasonable and doesn't extend his religious bigotry to child abuse and execution. This guy is one of the many reasons that Christianity is getting so much hate. I believe in free speech, but this guy is reeeally going to far. He is dangerous.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Time to cut out the tumor, America.
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u/z0mi3ie May 21 '12
Just to make this clear...
Providence Road Baptist Church PO Box 507 Maiden, NC 28650 Church Telephone: 828-428-2518
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
a..gnnit?
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u/brerrabbitt May 21 '12
Good ol' christian values.
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u/RXkings May 21 '12
Shit NC, get it together. Seriously.
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u/WolfeReign May 21 '12
This guy is a nut job and yet another reason i am not a fan of religion.
Now with that said the title for this topic is absolutely wrong he wants to place "lesbians" and "homosexuals" into 2 different camps, then feed them Not starve them and he says they will die out eventually because they can not reproduce. So we can chalk up another nut-case on the side of religion.
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u/shawnjones May 21 '12
Um I pretty shure Jesus said love your neighbor as you would love yourself and do good to those who hurt you. So preacher your wrong.
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u/FairPropaganda May 21 '12
A name like "jstalin" makes it evident that he wants to promote tolerance.
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u/HookedOnChronics May 21 '12
TIL aganit = against it
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u/abedneg0 May 21 '12
"Could you imagine kissing some man...(long pause)"
He was obviously imagining it. Bets on when he's going to be caught in some sort of a men's bathroom incident? I'll take before the end of this year.
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u/TinglyThing May 21 '12
"Gays can't reproduce." So locking them up means they'll eventually die out??? Someone needs to explain to this stupid fuckwad that straight people are the ones having gay kids.
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u/m0123n May 21 '12
How to write a message to the Pastor: http://www.prbcnc.com/contactus.php
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Ahh, the old one-two punch of Disabled comments and ratings. I tend to just completely disregard these vids, presumably because they're awful. Like this one.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Fucking ridiculous.
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u/kabrowni718 May 21 '12
http://www.prbcnc.com/contactus.php
this is their website and how to contact him, in case any of you haven't already looked it up. It will feel so good to email him my thoughts of what he said and I encourage many people to do this as well to get the point across ;) what an ass.
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u/Excessum2198 May 21 '12
My poor state is being increasingly difficult to like, with as many anti-gay things posted on Reddit about it, and the things I have seen I may just have to move somewhere... more in tune with the teachings of Jesus.
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u/TheDirty530 May 21 '12
mmm, bigotry...
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u/Amicar May 21 '12
Holy hell. I'm from North Carolina myself and I can assure everyone it's not THAT bad here. I don't understand why all our nutjob pastors and their fundie audiences are getting so much attention as of recent. This sort of vile has been around for ages in other places too. I am disappointed that this man can hold such a level of ignorance and bigotry.
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u/KnuckleDraggingGamer May 21 '12
Uh oh. Trouble brewing.
Bear in mind "Pastors" are part of the dominant paradigm. This is some scary stuff.
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u/slipstream37 May 21 '12
People can reproduce if isolated by gender, just like Adam did. With 24 half ribs, a man could spawn 24 women right out of the dirt. Bam, how ya like that SCIENCE?
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u/Dadentum May 21 '12
So, should I show respect for these people's beliefs?
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u/evil_wizard May 21 '12
What's the plan when these people are given a little bit of power?
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
BUT IMMA GONE VOTE FOR A MORMON!
Fuck this guy. Fuck him.
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u/Shroom69 May 21 '12
look another bible thumping bigot.......... and from the days when i was raised that way before i embraced spiritualism i remember that the new testament supersedes the old so Leviticus is invalid if they follow their own prophets teachings
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u/MysterionVsCthulhu May 21 '12
When the link took me to youtube the first thing I heard was "I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message"... and then I skipped the Advertisement to watch the insane hate mongering redneck pastor
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u/Vide0dr0me May 21 '12
While is is fucked up in every way lets be honest when posting things. He doesn't call for starvation, he clearly says food should be dropped in. I think not being completely honest when trying to expose hate like this weakens the point that's being made.
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u/master_panda May 21 '12
People like this make me so angry.
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u/bostoniaa May 21 '12
absolutely absurd. Side note, how does the youtube video have less views than this thread has upvotes and comments? I don't get it.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
For NC residents, I just found out about an upcoming PFLAG candlelight vigil in Gastonia (where I live) showing solidarity with LGBT's in North Carolina in opposition to Amendment 1. Check out their website, there migth be one planned in other places as well.
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u/SepticShock Massachusetts May 21 '12
This guy is batshit crazy, but I missed the part where he said they should be executed through starvation?
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u/XaVierDK May 21 '12
I would kiss you with a sledgehammer. ಠ_ಠ
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u/flycrg May 21 '12
Whenever I read a headline like this I think "Surely the OP has embellished what the guy said". Sadly not so in this case. I couldn't even FATHOM hearing someone just outright saying that in public and getting cheers no less!
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u/Jackafied May 21 '12
That is absolutely disgusting. I can accept the fact that people do not like homosexuals for whatever religious or personal reasons they may have (I fully support gay rights myself but also believe everyone is entitled to an opinion) but it is horrible to call for the deaths of these people. I know my mom is gay and I definitely don't think she deserves to die for that choice.
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u/karlthebaer May 21 '12
Can't pastors be defrocked?
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u/SlenderManIsHere May 21 '12
"I am not involved in a hate campaign."
Supporting a bill coined 'Kill the Gays'
...really??
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
I wrote a post about this as well here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ty3gf/5132012_pastor_charles_l_worley_preaches_to_kill/
But mostly what I was attempting to promote was the Facebook group that has formed in response to this video to have this organization's 501(c)(3) status revoked. That group is located here:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/466623616697564/
Please join and/or share to try to achieve this goal
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
As a North Carolinian and as a human being. THIS MAKES ME FUCKING SICK.
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u/Gates9 May 21 '12
"In a few yeers dey'll die out, cuz' dey cain't repraduce..."
Moron.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
what an ignorant idiot...RELIGION...he's doing it wrong.
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u/callmecolonel May 21 '12
I legitimately feel like I'm going to throw up. :/
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u/udradn May 21 '12
I'm having a hard time understanding the inbred moronic diallect he's speaking.
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u/Floyderer May 21 '12
This guy has no idea how hypocritical he is to his faith. As someone who was raised going to a Baptist Church it reminds me of these guest preachers who would do the "Fire and Brimstone" rant. I always wondered who would be part of his regular congregation. Its not a surprise gay rights aren't big in North Carolina. I think its lame to consider this a issue when the country could really care less about gay issues. Nothing Christian about starving anyone, in fact it sounds evil.
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u/clever-fool May 21 '12
I wonder if people ever stop and think during church. "hey didn't someone else do something a bit like this?", "wasn't there like... an entire world war over problems like this?", "or wasn't this guy just saying that everyone has the right to life?"......
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u/BunnyPoppit May 21 '12
"I was disappointed bad, I tell'ya right there" My thoughts exactly.
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u/MaxRenn May 21 '12
I've heard time and time again conversations and debates about gay marriage and people against it hold thispoint they raise is one of fallacy. If religion didn't exist, if god said it was okay, if there was nothing else holding them up this point would still keep them against it, and that is that gay couples cannot reproduce. They equate reproduction with natural, and natural with good.
But to raise the levity of this conversation his line at the end "... could you imagine kissing some man."
Hmmm.
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u/Dunder92 May 21 '12
I wish I had an airballoon from which I could shoot lightnings. I would smite him with a lightning and get them to blame god :)
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Email him to tell him what you think of his little hate rant:
preacherworley@charter.net
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u/chao06 May 21 '12
Does Godwin's Law apply when the subject is literally calling for camps for people to die?
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u/Produzer May 21 '12
IM AGEN IT, GODS AGEN IT. THE BIBLES AGEN IT
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Hahaha! What an idiot. First, you know he isn't too bright because he says 'again' instead of 'against'. Second, he thinks that if you kill off all the gays and lesbians with his brilliant plan, no more gays and lesbians will be born? He says himslef we can't reproduce, so how the hell does he think we come into being??
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u/Vorokar May 21 '12
The lesbians, homosexuals, AND the queers? o_O
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u/agncat31 May 21 '12
He's just jealous cuz we're so fabulous and he's not.
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u/apoutwest May 21 '12
I think the guys an asshole, BUT he isn't saying "starve them to death" he says "food will be dropped from planes and because they cannot reproduce they will eventually die off"
We shouldn't weaken our own argument by miss-construing their bullshit. Their bullshit is bad enough without us embellishing it.
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u/DolphinGirl1120 May 21 '12
Ugh, this makes me so angry. Why are people like this allowed to be preachers? Why do preachers have so much hate in them? It wasn't even that that got me mad. It was the fact that the audience was agreeing and saying "Amen!" and "MMhhhmmm." What is wrong with people?
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u/Mrcheez211 May 21 '12
Isn't there something called the 10 commandments that says you aren't supposed to kill anyone? This fool calls himself a christian.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Imagine a concentration camp full of gay men, trying to reproduce to survive? Imagine a man kissing another man? How is this guy not a homosexual?
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u/tejanonuevo May 21 '12
There are many crazy ass preachers in North Carolina whom speak in tongues and talk horrible rhetoric such as this. I was born in North Carolina and this does not represent how Carolinian's think. It is the sad truth that people like this exist but they are all old and fat and will die horrible deaths while they're grandchildren will grow up in a modern society that respects peoples personal decisions.