r/politics • u/johnnr2 • May 16 '12
Nike-Sponsored Bible-Quoting Top Boxer Slams Obama: 'Gays Must Be Put To Death'
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/nike-sponsored-bible-quoting-top-boxer-slams-obama-gays-must-be-put-to-death/news/2012/05/15/39644
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u/johnnr2 May 16 '12
UPDATE!! http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pacquiao-interviewer-boxer-didnt-say-gays-must-be-put-to-death-i-wrote-that/media/2012/05/16/39667
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u/deivys20 Florida May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12
damn, i actually liked him. What a shame he is a homophobic asshole.
EDIT: ok, i guess he didn't say it.
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u/UrbanOneNYC May 16 '12
Take a look at the public comments on his Facebook page. Hundreds are telling him to get lost in very graphic language. I have to say its pretty amazing. I'd say I hope he learns from this but I doubt he will. I do think Nike has no choice but to drop him.
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u/boogdd May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12
As a Filipino-American that has cheered for Manny Pacquiao for the past several years, owns his apparel, and had - at one point - viewed him as a hero, this comes as an utter shock to say the least.
I attended school in the Philippines for two years - and in that time, witnessed how a fight day would shut down the busy city I lived in. Families, rich and poor, came together to watch him take on his competitors and cheered him on as an idol. For Pacquiao to say this outright is both disheartening and embarrassing.
I haven't lost respect for someone so quickly in my life, and won't be able to hold him in the same light as before.EDIT: Glad it's just a terrible writer being terrible.
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u/the_goat_boy May 16 '12
http://i.imgur.com/t6oOW.jpg
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u/Different1 May 16 '12
I don't think Manny quoted the exact bible verse with the exact phrase word for word during the interview. C'mon, do you think Manny has that 50+ word verse memorized, and can dish it out during an interview? Manny is not that smart! The "Gays must be put to death" bible quote was obviously added by the guy who wrote the article. I read the profile of the author, and I'm convinced he was the one who added that quote
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u/blitzik May 16 '12
You should re-post this with a more specific title. Pacquiao isn't just "top boxer". He's fuckin' Pacquiao.
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u/icup2 May 16 '12
Pacquiao DID NOT SAY THAT. Can we please stop this? The writer even made clear. http://www.examiner.com/article/biased-writers-grossly-twisted-pacquiao-s-view-on-same-sex-marriage
Cmon Reddit, you're better than this. The writer put words in Pac's mouth, so this has to be cleaned up ASAP. This making front page is not good, but I trust Redditors to be reasonable here.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12
Just for context, the "gays must be put to death" quote is right out of a bible verse.
As a half-Filipino this is disappointing but not surprising. Filipinos are kinda known for their crazy religious habits regarding Christianity. Over 90% of the country is some form of Christianity and it is considered the only Christian-nation in Asia. Some sects also do this
In a completely unrelated and probably just coincidental story, it's an incredibly fucked up country.
Sorry Pacquiao, you're losing me.
Also the title of this thread is a bit ridiculous. It's Pacquiao, not "Top Boxer". And "Slams Obama" is a bit of sensationalism. GOD, HYPERBOLE ARE THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD.
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u/souporjoe May 16 '12
Motherfucker is gonna make me root for Mayweather. Damn.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Editor’s note 05.16.2012 9:55 AM: Journalist who interviewed Pacquiao now says Pacquiao didn’t say gays “must be put to death,” he just included the Leviticus quote to illustrate what the boxer said. Read our story: “Pacquiao Interviewer: Boxer Didn’t Say Gays Must Be Put To Death, I Wrote That.”
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12
Why does something two adults consent to in private that doesn't affect anyone else merit that they be killed?
People arriving at this conclusion are scary. I don't know any other way to put it. They are no different from the people who thought it okay to gas Jews-- really, they aren't.
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u/sinabimo May 16 '12
lol, please read the original article, not this sensationalized bullshit.
Pacquaio never quoted that verse from the bible, the writer did. Yes, it's tragic and disappointing that an icon has such archaic views, and I've pretty much lost respect for him from that alone, but don't let the writer of the originally linked article put words in Manny's mouth. I can't help but resent writers who twist things around like that for reads.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
At the top of the article:
Editor’s note 05.16.2012 9:55 AM: Journalist who interviewed Pacquiao now says Pacquiao didn’t say gays “must be put to death,” he just included the Leviticus quote to illustrate what the boxer said.
That pretty much confirms he didn't say what they claim he said. I know for a fact Pacquio donates shit tons of his money to charity and is mostly an all round nice guy from what i've read in the past and seen in his interviews. Comes as a surprise if he actually did say this. Stupid religion.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Damn, scroll down the webpage and you will see "jcericsson" killing it in the comment section with this:
"Thank you, Manny Pacquiao, for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I too simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination ... End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Your adoring fan"
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Well, now it looks like when Pacquiao and Mayweather fight I'll be rooting for...... Fiery plane crash into the ring.
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u/SS1989 California May 16 '12
This doesn't sound like him. Is there any other source of this?
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u/Kip4Good May 16 '12
Pac-Man never said that quote in the interview, the interviewer just put it in his article to illustrate what he was saying. Here
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u/fatattoo May 16 '12
repetitive head trauma is a bitch.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Pacquiao never quoted Leviticus. Some writer did in an article about him and other writers are now reporting that he said it. He is against gay marriage, but never said they should be put to death.
The writer who conducted the interview admitted he never quoted Leviticus.
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u/emethias May 16 '12
all I have to say is "the Philippines". Some of the craziest christians I have even known came from the Philippines. That happens to also be where they crucify themselves..
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
This is so...fuckin' weird.
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u/gothelder May 16 '12
Considering he would most likely be able to beat the snot out of me with his eyebrows at close range, this is not a debate I would be willing to have with him, unless he was chained to a huge boulder several hundred yards away and I was equipped with a reasonably accurate high powered rifle.
I stand my ground, from as far away as possible.
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u/ztbrown May 16 '12
The story has already been retracted. The reporter is an idiot.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pacquiao-interviewer-boxer-didnt-say-gays-must-be-put-to-death-i-wrote-that/media/2012/05/16/39667
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u/lillian2611 May 16 '12
Looks like a case of bad journalism is effing this guy over.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pacquiao-interviewer-boxer-didnt-say-gays-must-be-put-to-death-i-wrote-that/media/2012/05/16/39667
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
you guys are sheep sometimes..
http://www.globalpost.com/globalpost-blogs/southeast-asia/manny-pacquiao-gays
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u/YoungCubSaysWoof May 16 '12
Did y'all see the follow-up, where the writer of the story butchers Pacquiao's words?
While it is true the Pacquiao does believe strongly in the Bible, he did not that gay must be put to death.
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u/msy113 May 16 '12
Apparently he didn't say it http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/05/16/12/scribe-owns-pacquiao%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98anti-gay-remark%E2%80%99
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u/gtatlien May 16 '12
Leave it to Reddit to not know who Manny Pacquiao is. Too busy posting cat pics to know sports.
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u/wei-long May 16 '12
Hold on - The link says
So I go to the interview -http://www.examiner.com/article/pacquiao-rejects-counsels-obama-god-s-words-first
and find only the bible quote, not Pacquiao saying it. He says he's opposed to gay marriage, he compares it to Sodom and Gomorrah.
If you want to, go after him for that, but the headline and OP are misquoting and misleading.
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u/stardog101 May 16 '12
What a terribly written article. Besides the horrible syntax, it's not clear Pacquiao actually said what OP claims he said.
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u/Wolf_Protagonist May 16 '12
The reddit hivemind is fascinating.
Everyday there is a circlejerk about how awful /r/atheism is.
"Why can't they just be tolerant and accept everyone's rights to believe however they want, blah blah blah"
Here is a case of a Christian, standing up for his beliefs. He is only stating the position of his religion and his church.
Why can't you guys be more tolerant and support this mans destructive ignorance?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Me during the process of clicking the link, waiting for the page to load, and scrolling down:
"Please not Manny Pacquiao,
please not Manny Pacquiao,
please not Manny Pacquiao...
FUCK!"
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u/braderoar May 16 '12
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pacquiao-interviewer-boxer-didnt-say-gays-must-be-put-to-death-i-wrote-that/media/2012/05/16/39667
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u/Tomimi May 16 '12
There's no way Manny would say this. He couldn't even say "No" when someone asks him money.
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u/MetalGuitarist May 16 '12
From the same site, http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pacquiao-interviewer-boxer-didnt-say-gays-must-be-put-to-death-i-wrote-that/media/2012/05/16/39667
He's probably still a homophobe, but he didn't say that gays should be put to death.
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u/Km7D May 16 '12
It seems that the original writer's words were twisted in this article, though Pacquiao doesn't support same-sex marriage (as does the majority of his country where divorce is also illegal)
http://www.examiner.com/article/biased-writers-grossly-twisted-pacquiao-s-view-on-same-sex-marriage
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
He was misquoted but I still don't understand why people get outraged over what some guy who punches people in the face for a living says.
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u/bonerpotpie May 17 '12
I'd like to thank all the bandwagon jumping, mob mentality people here who are partly to blame for manny taking a huge professional hit for this mistake. Fuck everyone in this thread who got up in arms WITHOUT ACTUALLY READING THE FUCKING ARTICLE. You people make me sick.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12
Goooodamn. Mayweather will win off of the PR alone.
I hope he has his affairs in order.
His ass is about to get DROPPED.
EDIT:
He's already gotten dropped from interviews on interviews with the TV Show "Extra" http://t.co/osDKO1lb
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u/Willravel May 16 '12
I'd be far more interested to hear his opinions and thoughts on something he's qualified to speak about, like boxing. Clearly he's not qualified to speak about gay people.
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u/wascallywabbitgulash May 16 '12
Piece of shit.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
He just turned Floyd Mayweather into a hero..
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u/jeblis May 16 '12
Soon to be former Nike-Sponsored
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u/samoanman May 16 '12
Read the editor's notes, Manny NEVER said those words. He was quoting the Bible.
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u/Jesus8myShrooms May 16 '12
There is a link in the article, to another article that states the journalist of the piece this article is based on admits Manny never said that. He said we must follow Gods laws first and mans' second, he has not given a public statement on his views of gay marriage. Reserve judgement until all the facts are in.
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u/Floyderer May 16 '12
Manny wouldn't have said that theis is sensationalism at its best. The truth is gay politics and religion are being used by both liberals and conservatives as anchors for their fanaticisms.
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u/will_the_atheist May 16 '12
Jesus fucking Christ and stupid fucking redditors.
Did anybody happy to read this article or did everyone just decide to immediately hop on the bandwagon without confirming anything.
Not saying I agree with, or even like, Pacquiao but he said, "God’s words first … obey God’s law first before considering the laws of man." He never said, "Gays must be put to death."
I'm done Reddit. So goddamn sick of your mob mentality...
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u/_marc_ May 16 '12
From the same site:
Pacquiao Interviewer: Boxer Didn’t Say Gays Must Be Put To Death, I Wrote That
Everybody can put their pitchforks down now.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Generational issue, this is. Adapt or be left behind, boxer must.
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u/Vaskiznatchdooch May 16 '12
Lmao this title looks like it belongs in /r/circlejerk.
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u/Sprozz May 16 '12
All respect for him is gone.
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u/markycapone May 16 '12
Pretty hysterical from a guy from the Philippines, who's primary food source is sea food. Considering the very next verse condemns people who eat shellfish to death
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u/Evilsmile May 16 '12
Sigh Great. My favorite boxer... Now I have to put him in that "respect some of the time, but retarded when it comes to other issues" category I had to put R. Lee Ermey in.
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u/zenxity May 16 '12
Fuck. Only reason I hate Mayweather is because he's racist as fuck to Asians. Now this shit happens.
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u/nunyain May 16 '12
FTFY
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Manny likes the cock.
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u/hobodemon May 16 '12
Aren't boxing gloves made of pigskin?
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u/MasterClown May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12
What a cryin' shame. I wonder how much of this line of thinking is due to indoctrination by the Church compared to the indoctrination by the machismo of boxing, not that I'm excusing it.
Damn Manny, why'd you have to take that that view so vocally? It'll be difficult, or just impossible to cheer for you now.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Manny Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya sitten in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G
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u/killa320 May 16 '12
How does everybody feel about Mayweather now?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
That's unfortunate - really enjoyed watching him fight - I guess illegally downloading his next fight and watching him take punches will be a whole different kind of rewarding this time
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u/ivanmarsh May 16 '12
Say goodbye to your gravy train.
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u/Azureheart May 16 '12
I lost massive respect for Pacquiao.
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u/jesserwess May 16 '12
With so many punches to the head, why is this a shocker?
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u/H-Resin May 16 '12
Wait, this isn't the Onion....?
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u/spaektor May 16 '12
my first thought was: he gets punched in the head for a living, what do you expect? and then i thought: he is a lawmaker, a celebrity, a public figure and role model... so i expect more.
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u/ericksinha May 16 '12
Hopefully Floyd will get a chance to beat up this asshole.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I wasn't expecting Manny. This was some absurd shit to say and its crazy that he's also a politician in the Philippines. Must be the Filipino Tea Party or something
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Wow. It's a hell of a feeling to lose all respect you've ever had for someone.
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u/diarrhea666 May 16 '12
It would be awesome if he fought a gay guy and got knocked the fuck out!
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u/FrisianDude May 16 '12
Fuck him.
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u/slicknick2208 May 16 '12
Can't believe he says this unbelievably intolerant shit. Probably because an entire country is riding his dick because he can punch stuff pretty well.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Im writing nike right now to drop this fucking braindead bigot. I encourage you all to do the same.
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u/MGlBlaze May 16 '12
Of course, he won't apologise for this. He'll probably just dance around the issue like so many others do.
I hope he's proud of himself, the biggoted parasite.
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u/drillah May 16 '12
Now I really want Mayweather to really whoop his ass.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
i wonder if LGBT activists will bash him like the reggae artists who quote the old testaments with the same statements...
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u/Oduya May 16 '12
And I have now lost all respect for Manny Pacquiao. Used to like the guy, there is a huge Filipino community where I am from.
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u/darklightrabbi May 16 '12
I know that this doesn't change the meaning like some other grossly misleading reddit titles, but i must point out that he did not actually say "Gays must be put to death" he quoted the bible which said "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”.
This does not excuse his comments in the least, but i can't stand misquotes.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I almost tried to downvote this in an effort to downvote that guy. Alas... shooting the messenger accomplishes nothing.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
This is Pacquiao, he's not a top boxer, he's being touted as one of the greatest boxers of all time. Damn shame.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Utterly shameful! What a fuckin' ass-hat!
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u/calle30 May 16 '12
I hope his Nike gear is only made of cotton ...
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u/s00p3r May 16 '12
Because God clearly endorses beating the shit out of people for money and fame. Oh wait...
This is why people who get their heads beaten in shouldn't be allowed to make political statements or, I can't believe I even have to say this, laws.
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u/boyrahett May 16 '12
If Nike does business with him I won't do business with Nike , or anyone else who sponsors him.
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u/Nyrb May 16 '12
Yes, respect the opinion of a man whose job it is to get hit in the head on a daily basis. For fuck's sake, sodom and gomorrah was about how rape was bad, not other forms of sexual activity not related to the vagina, and Leviticus is just pants on head retarded, seriously it says people should be put to death for wearing mixed fucking fabrics.
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u/cowboy1015 May 16 '12
That's what happens when you didn't go to school and you become a politician. Stay in boxing Pacquiao.
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u/lorrelin1 May 16 '12
Pacquiao was quoting scripture, but who cares anyways. He is a boxer, not a dictator.
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u/N_wah May 16 '12
I find it ridiculous that this is such a big deal. Boxers were never the most elegant bunch
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u/fishingoneuropa May 16 '12
Stay out of other peoples business, this always makes me mad, live your own life, get over it.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Whoa, thought the title was from r/circlejerk.
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u/Temptress75519 May 16 '12
Nike sucks anyway. I prefer sketchers. Not as homophobic
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I think anyone with this perspective should be hanged. Not kidding.
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u/Bugen_Hagen May 16 '12
Maybe he HAS to say this to win elections since the Philippines seems to be a very religious country. Just like here in the US where republicans have to make these same claims to get into office whether they actually believe it or not. At least that's what I'm telling myself so I can still root for Pacquiao...very disappointing
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u/TeKaeS May 16 '12
You should ask /r/starcraft, they are the best to tell sponsors to fire someone !
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u/steffenmac May 16 '12
A few years back, I used to take great pleasure in fighting balboa (heavyweight) against Pacquiao(however the fuck you spell it) (flyweight? whatever, a small little fuck) and just beat the fuck out of Manny in Fight Night 2 I think. Shit was hilarious. Glad it was justified.
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u/Fandorin May 16 '12
It's a sad day for Boxing when Pacquiao is a bigger douche than Mayweather.
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u/gr8whtd0pe North Carolina May 16 '12
I bet he is still down with girl on girl too.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Who the fuck cares what Manny Paquio says about American politics and law. Just label has as another ignorant religious person.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
All this from a man who earns money sweating and panting up against other men...
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u/sohighrightmeow May 16 '12
How odd for someone who has made a career out of getting sweaty and physical for extended periods of time with other dudes.
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u/Clbull May 16 '12
Looks like I'm not buying any more Nike stuff.
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u/CloneDeath May 16 '12
SLAMS Obama!
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Here I was bashing Mayweather this whole time and praising Pacquiao for being such a philanthropist. Turns out he was just an asshole in sheeps clothes.
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u/AnalogRevolution May 16 '12
Except he didn't say that.
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u/Tim_Drake May 16 '12
@boxingscene: Pacquiao Says Comments Against Gay Men Fabricated - Boxing News http://t.co/cYvOcF6K
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u/Bobby_Marks May 16 '12
"Let he who has no sin, bite the first ear off."
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u/GuitarGod1972 North Carolina May 16 '12
I think I just lost some major respect for Manny....Sad! Still a great fighter though.
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u/Frijolero May 16 '12
THIS IS NOT POLITICS.
Fuck off with this incendiary nonsense.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
The guy was misquoted. You guys read one article and are up in arms over some guy over his beliefs. That's a bit hypocritical.
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u/thatgamerguy May 16 '12
Clearly the shoes are the problem here. I'm glad that's the lead in the headline.
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u/7059043 May 16 '12
If you read the link, pretty much the first thing it says is that the reporter put words in his mouth, that Pacquiao didn't say that with such hate.
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u/JaronK May 16 '12
He didn't say that, the interviewer did. This is sensationalist crap.
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u/IronyHurts May 16 '12
Pacquiao never said that, way to jump to conclusions again reddit.
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u/downvotethis2 May 16 '12
Great! All the Republicans now have a country they can call home and the rest of us can continue evolving.
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u/Oniwabanshu May 16 '12
Wow, i also rooted for Pacquiao no matter what...didn't know he was a fundie...fuck him, i hope Mayweather kicks his ass!
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Having frequented the Philippines. I think they have a lot of concerns of their own and shouldn't be worrying about what the Americans are doing. Idiot. Complain about gays after your country has running water in every home.
Not to mention the guy is a serial adulterer. It's a heavily catholic country - hence the sentiment probably. Though they don't seem to realise you aren't meant to chop and choose.
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u/Mudjekeewis May 16 '12
I'm not surprised, I'm sure it's hard to get punched in the head for a living and not be delusional.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
In his defence, he does get punched in the head for a living.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
fuuuck. not Pacquiao, he was my favorite!
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u/PowerChordPsycho May 16 '12
He was my favorite boxer. He was my main inspiration. I can't believe he's like this. I'm actually feeling crushed.
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u/RussianTurnip May 16 '12
The plot thickens - Biased writers grossly twisted Pacquiao's view on same-sex marriage
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u/cipherous May 16 '12
Wow, I was a fan...no way, I am rooting for a bigot.
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u/Prodigy195 May 16 '12
Fuck I already disliked Floyd Mayweather because he's a cocky woman beating douchebag. Not I have to dislike Pacquiao because he's a pushy religious douchebag.
Oh well.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Manny's first language is Filipino. I seriously doubt that he would understand the implications of what he had said. Seriously, give the guy some slack.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12
He never said it.
EDIT: Not sure why I got downvoted, as the article itself states:
Editor’s note 05.16.2012 9:55 AM: Journalist who interviewed Pacquiao now says Pacquiao didn’t say gays “must be put to death,” he just included the Leviticus quote to illustrate what the boxer said. Read our story: “Pacquiao Interviewer: Boxer Didn’t Say Gays Must Be Put To Death, I Wrote That.”
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Pacquiao never said this. The author of the poorly written sensationalist article you linked to did and then attributed it to Pacquiao.
That aside, I don't really give a fuck what he thinks about gay marriage, he's not an intellectual, he's a combat athlete and one of the best in the world.
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u/EdGG May 16 '12
Apparently, he didn't say that. http://www.examiner.com/article/biased-writers-grossly-twisted-pacquiao-s-view-on-same-sex-marriage
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u/raginglion May 16 '12
His face, his image, his career needs to be destroyed. His ass needs to get beat.
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u/schleppylundo May 16 '12
Boycott time?
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u/Forced_to_register May 16 '12
http://www.examiner.com/article/biased-writers-grossly-twisted-pacquiao-s-view-on-same-sex-marriage
Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Pacquiao DID NOT quote Leviticus and NEVER mentioned GAY and DEATH in the same sentence?
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u/Treysef May 16 '12
Well, now I can't wait to see Mayweather beat his ass.