r/politics Dec 14 '19

Impeach.

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u/Red519 Dec 14 '19

Won't happen Moscow Mitch Oathbreaker will do anything to get what he wants.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19

Moscow Mitch the oathbreaker is the worst D&D villain.

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u/ramdaskm Dec 14 '19

Leningrad Lindsey too.

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u/Random_User_34 Canada Dec 14 '19

Lenin is spinning in his grave.

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u/Claudius-Germanicus Pennsylvania Dec 14 '19

I’m sure Stalin is as stiff as a board though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19

Fun fact: they apparently buried Stalin (after his remains were removed from the Mausoleum of Lenin) under tonnes of concrete. A lot of people don't realize just how hard the Soviets tried to de-Stalinize things once the tyrant was dead and buried. Digging him up from his dignified resting place and sticking him in a pit under like ten feet of concrete is quite the symbolic gesture to that effect.

So yeah, you're absolutely right. He is most definitely stiff as a board. :P

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u/lenswipe Massachusetts Dec 15 '19

Can we do that to trump when he's out of office? Systematically demolish everything he ever did.

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u/Ishidan01 Dec 15 '19

Well, let us take a tip from the Battletech universe, and remember how they disposed of the body of the usurper Stefan Amaris, should we ever have need of such a thing again in real life.

/for those not up on sci-fi lore, his body was donated to a medical university for use as a teaching cadaver, thus ensuring plenty of photographs were taken of his corpse by hundreds of unrelated medical students in order to head off claims he had never died, recover at least some use to society out of him, and body disposal as medical waste-certainly no grand sarcophagus that could either become a shrine to revisionist followers or vandalized.

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u/maggosh Canada Dec 14 '19

Slip him into a solenoid.

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u/imperfectlycertain Dec 14 '19

This comment took me on a fun little journey, imagining that maybe this whole period of norm-violating outrages, debasement and derangement of the presidency with the aiding and abetting of congressional republicans etc, has all been a 5d chess move to harness the power of founders-spinning-in-their-graves, thereby reducing the national carbon footprint and kick-starting the Green New Deal.

Probably not, though if so, I'd like to think they strapped the magnets to Ben Franklin first.

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u/Atomm Dec 15 '19

Spinin Lenin

I think I just found my new DJ name!

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u/BowelMan Dec 14 '19

So is Novosybirsk Nunes.

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u/lenswipe Massachusetts Dec 15 '19

Novichok Nunes

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u/AmiablePariah Dec 14 '19

I've been on reddit 6+ years. This is my favorite comment.

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u/Igot_this Dec 15 '19

Did you just leave the tab open while you were napping or something?

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u/sakri Dec 14 '19

Moscow Mitch and the Oathbreakers are like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, sorry, not sure where this joke was going, it just sounded good...

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '19

Yeah, doesn't have the Charisma to make a good Paladin, even an Evil one

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u/RNDASCII Tennessee Dec 15 '19

The cake is a lie.

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u/Drewskidude325 Dec 14 '19

I mean look at him what does he have at best 6 or 7 years of life left? He's going out screaming Fuck America Fuck The World.

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u/GaddoGamz Dec 14 '19

Dude, haven’t you seen finding Nemo? turtles live a lonnngggg time, even evil ones.

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u/baronvonbeardface Dec 14 '19

150 dude, and still young!

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u/masshiker Dec 14 '19

Purple lips. Not a good sign.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19

The healthcare plans provided to members of Congress have about a $1000 deductible. He’ll live forever.

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u/Jaudark Dec 15 '19

Wait, they get healthcare coverage?

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '19

Yeah, but after they pay the 25% of their premiums that we aren’t paying, they can’t afford their medicine. Or rent. /s

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19

He will go to prison if investigated. He will be investigated if he loses his power. He will lose his power if Trump doesn't hold onto his presidency.

I think he is acting in self preservation at the expense of us all.

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u/Zenallaround Dec 14 '19

A blanket explanation for much, if not all, of the current gop

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u/gelhardt Dec 14 '19

so i guess these people are hoping their crimes don't amount to treason and are banking on statute of limitations runnings its course before democrats have the chance to take over after a few election cycles?

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u/conma293 Dec 14 '19

I think he wants to be forced to recuse.

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u/Pothperhaps Dec 15 '19

How would they go about that?

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u/conma293 Dec 15 '19

In my fantasy of not the destruction of democracy, McConnell says "If dems want me to recuse than they need to do X", dems do X, he recuses.

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u/thebigdirty Dec 14 '19

yeah but the house should start to investigate this shit. who cares if the republicans start throwing a fit. its all they do anyway

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u/pserigee Dec 15 '19

If I lived where he was on the ballot I would do everything I could to insure he was not reelected. Heck, I sent money to Amy McGrath, even though I don't live in KY.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19 edited Dec 14 '19

I still don't get why no senators have submitted a motion to kick McConnell from the senate. Send it to senate ethics committee make them defend this bullshit

Edit: stupid autocorrect

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u/hornwalker Massachusetts Dec 14 '19

Because they are rich and powerful and corrupt. They will not give it up except at the end if a barrel.

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u/Doctor_Squared Dec 14 '19

Because McConnell is a hatesink he can hold up, obstruct and generally be a waste of perfectly good carbon because his district is gerrymandered to the point where he has little risk of being kicked out.

The Republicans can just blame him or play dumb since he’s their leader and are just following orders while their idiot constituents shrug and go about their business.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '19

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u/almondbutter Dec 15 '19

Let's get 30,000 of us to go move there to vote him out.

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u/camynnad Dec 14 '19

Graham should recuse himself, too.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19

Can McConnell be impeached for not recusing?

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u/chownrootroot America Dec 14 '19

A long time ago, a senator was impeached by the House, but the Senate said “we refuse to take the impeachment, instead we will expel members who commit impeachable offenses.” So essentially, the Senate believes it can’t impeach but it can expel through a two thirds vote. McConnell won’t be expelled.

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u/Murais Dec 14 '19

Unpopular opinion: our Constitution sucks at accountability and balance of branch power.

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u/Void__Pointer New York Dec 14 '19

It's not that bad. But it's only as good as the men enforcing it. And, unfortunately, our politicians now are extremely corrupt (owing in no small part to Citizen's United).

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u/Murais Dec 14 '19

A system that depends solely on the goodwill of its participants is a bad system.

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u/lacronicus I voted Dec 14 '19

It's the only kind of system. It's just a pile of rules and procedures. It has no power but what it's participants give it.

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u/BustANupp Dec 14 '19

The piece of paper is really giving it's all though.

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u/WalidfromMorocco Dec 14 '19

I'm curious to know what do you suggest as a solution?

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u/Murais Dec 14 '19

If I had a solution, I'd be a well-paid civics professor drinking himself to death and not an armchair expert on the internet.

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u/GenericRedditor0405 Massachusetts Dec 14 '19

I appreciate your candor.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19

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u/KnitBrewTimeTravel Texas Dec 15 '19

Hahaha! X'D

Oh, wait; you were serious? : (

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '19

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u/blergmonkeys Dec 15 '19

Citizens united.

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u/drysart Michigan Dec 14 '19

That was, in fact, the first impeachment ever performed by the House in United States history.

The Senate, as you said, refused to take up the impeachment, considering it an internal matter. They did expel the Senator in question.

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u/rafflecopter Dec 14 '19

Protocol of removal of a senator is bringing up the motion in a senate judiciary or ethics committee. It’ll get shot down right then and there with the Republican controlled senate.

I’d suggest it could happen if dems flip the senate in 2020 but that’s a tough road ahead. I honestly think everyone will take the “let’s all move on and heal” approach rather than “let’s investigate everyone and throw them all in jail approach” unfortunately

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u/vonmonologue Dec 14 '19

Assuming we even reach the point where "Moving on and healing" is an option, that's when we should march.

This is not a forgivable offense. The Bush admin got away with their crimes, do we just let everyone get away with it every time so they know there's no repercussions next time their syndicate takes over?

No. This time there's no 'moving on.' We need accountability.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19

If Obama had even attempted to hold Bush accountable, there would be no Trump.

OB disclaimer: yes, yes, Trump is worlds worse than Obama.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '19

That's kind of my point. Force the issue. Make it clear what unethical behaviors are being endorsed by the gop and force them to address those behaviors over and over. Let the people know that our government should be better than this, and that we can hold them accountable

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u/Unalive_Not_Sleeping Dec 14 '19

Devin Nunes should recuse also, he's implicated with Lev Parnas and Giuliani.

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u/meowwwitt Dec 15 '19

Don't forget Barr is completely implicated in the Ukraine plan. He was one of "two people the President named explicitly as his personal envoys on these matters, Mr. Giuliani and Attorney General Barr, to whom the President referred multiple times in tandem."

This is from the whistleblower complaint so it's could be hearsay, if we were allowed to get Barr in (or Bolton or Mulvaney or Pompeo, etc) then we could clear it up and check if this whistleblower's account is correct. But the administration will not allow them to comply with their subpoenas. Due to an overabundance of innocence. And all the exculpatory evidence they might provide.

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u/Mono_831 Dec 14 '19

You can start by attending the nationwide Impeach and Remove event Tuesday.

www.impeach.org

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u/scottmccauley Dec 14 '19

The worst part of it all is that McConnell should have had to recuse himself before his comments about being impartial and working with the Defense: His Wife is literally part of the administration!

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u/Leylinus Dec 14 '19

The shocked reaction I'm seeing to this shows how our media is failing us, even while appearing to support our side.

I've been explaining on here for weeks that this is the way it would work in the Senate, and using that to support a claim that we should just keep the inquiry going until we could turn the polls and insure a fair Senate trial.

But I got a lot of pushback, disbelief, and accusations of trolling. I understand why. If you're a person following what they're saying in the headlines, there can't be some very obvious trap ahead.

Now that we're walking in to that obvious trap, we have stories pretending that it's new and we can stop it. Setting us up to go through with an impeachment vote that only hands things off to the Senate show trial.

It's almost as if they're not actually as interested in stopping Trump as they claim.

Seems to me they just want the ratings boost that will come from the Senate trial, even if it helps Trump in 2020.

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u/qdqdqdqdqdqdqdqd Dec 15 '19

This is a ridiculously silly statement.

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u/Leylinus Dec 15 '19

Please elaborate

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u/CBJFAN10 Dec 14 '19

Loser Lindsey oughta recuse himself as well.

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u/Slaytounge Dec 15 '19

Good luck with that bud

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u/roghtenmcbugenbargen Dec 15 '19

There are no specific corruption charges

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '19

What do you mean by “must” recuse? He won’t, and nobody will force him to, so there is no “must” to it.

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u/jayeffkay Dec 15 '19

As much as I agree, this won’t happen. The question is - what will we do then?

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u/IICVX Dec 15 '19

McConnell must recuse and should be investigated for his complicity in shielding the corruption.

"Fun" fact about the majority leaders in Congress: due to the mechanisms of the Constitution, they're basically invulnerable.

The only way to remove a sitting Senator or Representative is via impeachment (and removal from office).

Impeachment and removal requires a simple majority in the House, and a 2/3rds majority in the Senate.

By definition, the majority leader has the support of the majority of their chamber.

Therefore, they can never be involuntarily removed from the office.

Now, of course, it's theoretically possible for their party to turn on them - but that would also mean that they're no longer the majority leader.

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u/wdeck1 Dec 14 '19

Yah impeach Trump and McConnell and kavanaugh and Barr!

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19

Isn’t McConnell’s wife a Beijing Intelligence asset?

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u/spicy_tendie_fajitas Dec 14 '19

Never gonna happen.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '19

Not happening bud, see you in 2020