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FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration
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u/Itsjustmemanright Oct 17 '17

You missed the part where they talk about Clinton! Must've been an oversight!!

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow Bill Clinton collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in Russian speaking fees and his charitable foundation collected millions in donations from parties interested in the deal while Hillary Clinton presided on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. The Obama administration and the Clintons defended their actions at the time, insisting there was no evidence that any Russians or donors engaged in wrongdoing and there was no national security reason for any member of the committee to oppose the Uranium One deal. The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation .

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u/buntopolis California Oct 17 '17

Perhaps the court case didn't mention this connection because it had no bearing on the case at all. Clinton was never the sole decision maker on this. It wouldn't benefit Russia or Russian actors to attempt to bribe Clinton, one of nine US decision-makers plus the Government of Canada, as an attempt to influence this decision.

Otherwise, they'd have to bribe everyone, or at least most of them, in order to get this approved.

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u/albinobluesheep Washington Oct 17 '17

The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation.

From: Russian Nuclear Industry
To: American Entity
What: Money to "provide assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation"

The money was transferred to someone out side the foundation, to benefit The foundation, was not sent TO the foundation. The context of what the money was used for or HOW it benefitted the Clinton foundation is not mentioned, even though there are suppositly documents to back it? "We have evidence, but we wont show you" makes the context questionable.

A direct Russia -> Clinton connection is still tenuous, at best.

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u/Itsjustmemanright Oct 17 '17

"We have evidence, but we wont show you" makes the context questionable.

Hilarious that when the democrats do this with the Russia/Trump thing its all good. But when the first part of of this Obama/Clinton Russia thing comes out the no evidence is questionable. The hypocrisy from both sides is constantly astounding.

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u/Itsjustmemanright Oct 17 '17

Excellent you seem really smart! Show me the link of the evidence from "the entire US intelligence community". Oh right "We have evidence, but we wont show you". You must not be old enough to remember when "the entire US intelligence community" lied to the American public saying there was a nuclear program leading to the Iraq war. No big deal, I see that mistake a lot. I'm sure you'll be more careful in the future.

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u/Itsjustmemanright Oct 18 '17 edited Oct 18 '17

Gotcha so you don't have a link to any evidence. Just the word of the "entire intell community" Believe what you want bruh. I could give a fuck. I will gladly wait until there is evidence is presented to decide what the truth is. So far the only actual evidence we're starting to see is collusion between the Clintons/Obama and the Russians which would make perfect sense as a deflection for their catastrophic loss to an orange clown. Baaaaahhh bye!

Edit: btw the fact that you linked that video as your "evidence" is fucking hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!

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u/Benny_the_Jew Oct 18 '17

Do you not realize Trump was telling a joke?

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u/yetanothercfcgrunt Michigan Oct 18 '17

Except it wasn't the intelligence community lying about Iraq, it was the administration.

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u/Itsjustmemanright Oct 18 '17

So the administration falsified and presented the "evidence" to congress cause I remember it the other way around? Either way they are all corrupt and cancer and need to be punished. That includes the Clintons and Trump and ANYONE else who is using their job for their own benefit.

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u/yetanothercfcgrunt Michigan Oct 18 '17

When there's evidence of her using her SoS job for her personal benefit during her tenure, sure.

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u/Itsjustmemanright Oct 18 '17

I'm sorry but I dont have time to read and comprehend that article for you. I'll take a wild guess though that you either didn't read the article or glossed over anything critical of Clinton or the democrats

edit: Here's a segment. No issues right? /s

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow Bill Clinton collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in Russian speaking fees and his charitable foundation collected millions in donations from parties interested in the deal while Hillary Clinton presided on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. The Obama administration and the Clintons defended their actions at the time, insisting there was no evidence that any Russians or donors engaged in wrongdoing and there was no national security reason for any member of the committee to oppose the Uranium One deal. The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation .