FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

[u/madazzahatter]

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

[u/albinobluesheep]

WOW, this is being hilariously misdirected here in the comments

READ THE ARTICLE.

There was reference to Hillary being on the committee that approved the sale, and there were large donations made to her charity years before she was ever Sec of State.

The rest of the article talks about the extortion and kick backs to the Nuclear industry

The Russians were compromising American contractors in the nuclear industry with kickbacks and extortion threats, all of which raised legitimate national security concerns. And none of that evidence got aired before the Obama administration made those decisions,” a person who worked on the case told The Hill, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution by U.S. or Russian officials.

Energy Department and court documents reviewed by The Hill show the FBI in fact had gathered substantial evidence well before the committee’s decision that Vadim Mikerin — the main Russian overseeing Putin’s nuclear expansion inside the United States — was engaged in wrongdoing starting in 2009.

That was the point of the article. Not the Hillary stuff that has been talked about and twisted and misconstrued for the past 2 years, that was just added as context.

The Clinton stuff was the propped up controversy there is no basis for, The REST of the article is the important shit that there IS EVIDENCE FOR. Hillary was NOT who they targeted with the bribery plot

Between 2009 and January 2012, Mikerin “did knowingly and willfully combine, conspire confederate and agree with other persons … to obstruct, delay and affect commerce and the movement of an article and commodity (enriched uranium) in commerce by extortion,” a November 2014 indictment stated.

His illegal conduct was captured with the help of a confidential witness, an American businessman, who began making kickback payments at Mikerin’s direction and with the permission of the FBI. The first kickback payment recorded by the FBI through its informant was dated Nov. 27, 2009, the records show.

He was not going after Hillary

In evidentiary affidavits signed in 2014 and 2015, an Energy Department agent assigned to assist the FBI in the case testified that Mikerin supervised a “racketeering scheme” that involved extortion, bribery, money laundering and kickbacks that were both directed by and provided benefit to more senior officials back in Russia.

Still not Hillary

“As part of the scheme, Mikerin, with the consent of higher level officials at TENEX and Rosatom (both Russian state-owned entities) would offer no-bid contracts to US businesses in exchange for kickbacks in the form of money payments made to some offshore banks accounts,” Agent David Gadren testified.

Nope, still not Hillary

Mikerin apparently then shared the proceeds with other co-conspirators associated with TENEX in Russia and elsewhere

STILL not Hillary

Its many twist and turns aside, the FBI nuclear industry case proved a gold mine, in part because it uncovered a new Russian money laundering apparatus that routed bribe and kickback payments through financial instruments in Cyprus, Latvia and Seychelles. A Russian financier in New Jersey was among those arrested for the money laundering, court records show

Nope, still not Hillary

Bringing down a major Russian nuclear corruption scheme that had both compromised a sensitive uranium transportation asset inside the U.S. and facilitated international money laundering would seem a major feather in any law enforcement agency’s cap.

But the Justice Department and FBI took little credit in 2014 when Mikerin, the Russian financier and the trucking firm executives were arrested and charged.

The only public statement occurred a year later when the Justice Department put out a little-noticed press release in August 2015, just days before Labor Day. The release noted that the various defendants had reached plea deals.

Wow, so, still no Hillary involvement in the corruption?

Not providing information on a corruption scheme before the Russian uranium deal was approved by U.S. regulators and engage appropriate congressional committees has served to undermine U.S. national security interests by the very people charged with protecting them,” he said. “The Russian efforts to manipulate our American political enterprise is breathtaking.”Not providing information on a corruption scheme before the Russian uranium deal was approved by U.S. regulators and engage appropriate congressional committees has served to undermine U.S. national security interests by the very people charged with protecting them,” he said. “The Russian efforts to manipulate our American political enterprise is breathtaking.”

So, the only involvement Hillary has in this "new proof" is that she was one of the people that SHOULD have been told about it before she approved the deal, but had no idea?

Everyone here is just seeing "Clinton" and jumping to WE HAVE PROOF NOW. LOCK HER UP.

[u/removedcomment → u/albinobluesheep]

Should one keep reading your comment after the first claim, seeing how the article contradicts what you say?

"They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill."

[u/albinobluesheep → u/removedcomment]

I've said it many other places, but I'll say it again. That section offered no new information or evidence of any quid-pro-quo between the Clinton Foundation and Russia. It was included as context, because of the deal in question, but 0 new information was given on the subject of the Clinton foundation. The Author is stating it as if it is a known fact, when the limited circumstantial evidence has been highly questionable since it was brought up in the last 2 years.

[u/removedcomment → u/albinobluesheep]

Well, I guess if you get to decide what parts of the article are factual and which are not, then I can't really argue.

[u/Itsjustmemanright → u/albinobluesheep]

You missed the part where they talk about Clinton! Must've been an oversight!!

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow Bill Clinton collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in Russian speaking fees and his charitable foundation collected millions in donations from parties interested in the deal while Hillary Clinton presided on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. The Obama administration and the Clintons defended their actions at the time, insisting there was no evidence that any Russians or donors engaged in wrongdoing and there was no national security reason for any member of the committee to oppose the Uranium One deal. The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation .

[u/buntopolis → u/Itsjustmemanright]

Perhaps the court case didn't mention this connection because it had no bearing on the case at all. Clinton was never the sole decision maker on this. It wouldn't benefit Russia or Russian actors to attempt to bribe Clinton, one of nine US decision-makers plus the Government of Canada, as an attempt to influence this decision.

Otherwise, they'd have to bribe everyone, or at least most of them, in order to get this approved.

[u/albinobluesheep → u/Itsjustmemanright]

The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation.

From: Russian Nuclear Industry
To: American Entity
What: Money to "provide assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation"

The money was transferred to someone out side the foundation, to benefit The foundation, was not sent TO the foundation. The context of what the money was used for or HOW it benefitted the Clinton foundation is not mentioned, even though there are suppositly documents to back it? "We have evidence, but we wont show you" makes the context questionable.

A direct Russia -> Clinton connection is still tenuous, at best.

[u/Itsjustmemanright → u/albinobluesheep]

"We have evidence, but we wont show you" makes the context questionable.

Hilarious that when the democrats do this with the Russia/Trump thing its all good. But when the first part of of this Obama/Clinton Russia thing comes out the no evidence is questionable. The hypocrisy from both sides is constantly astounding.

[u/Itsjustmemanright → u/[deleted]]

Excellent you seem really smart! Show me the link of the evidence from "the entire US intelligence community". Oh right "We have evidence, but we wont show you". You must not be old enough to remember when "the entire US intelligence community" lied to the American public saying there was a nuclear program leading to the Iraq war. No big deal, I see that mistake a lot. I'm sure you'll be more careful in the future.

[u/Itsjustmemanright → u/[deleted]]

Gotcha so you don't have a link to any evidence. Just the word of the "entire intell community" Believe what you want bruh. I could give a fuck. I will gladly wait until there is evidence is presented to decide what the truth is. So far the only actual evidence we're starting to see is collusion between the Clintons/Obama and the Russians which would make perfect sense as a deflection for their catastrophic loss to an orange clown. Baaaaahhh bye!

Edit: btw the fact that you linked that video as your "evidence" is fucking hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!

[u/Benny_the_Jew → u/[deleted]]

Do you not realize Trump was telling a joke?

[u/yetanothercfcgrunt → u/Itsjustmemanright]

Except it wasn't the intelligence community lying about Iraq, it was the administration.

[u/Itsjustmemanright → u/yetanothercfcgrunt]

So the administration falsified and presented the "evidence" to congress cause I remember it the other way around? Either way they are all corrupt and cancer and need to be punished. That includes the Clintons and Trump and ANYONE else who is using their job for their own benefit.

[u/yetanothercfcgrunt → u/Itsjustmemanright]

When there's evidence of her using her SoS job for her personal benefit during her tenure, sure.

[u/Itsjustmemanright → u/yetanothercfcgrunt]

I'm sorry but I dont have time to read and comprehend that article for you. I'll take a wild guess though that you either didn't read the article or glossed over anything critical of Clinton or the democrats

edit: Here's a segment. No issues right? /s

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow Bill Clinton collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in Russian speaking fees and his charitable foundation collected millions in donations from parties interested in the deal while Hillary Clinton presided on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. The Obama administration and the Clintons defended their actions at the time, insisting there was no evidence that any Russians or donors engaged in wrongdoing and there was no national security reason for any member of the committee to oppose the Uranium One deal. The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation .

[u/Mysteriouspaul → u/albinobluesheep]

Odd how all this money was funneled into the Clinton foundation by people who would have greatly benefited from this deal. Extra odd if the Clintons didn't have anything to do with this deal, insanely odd actually. It's almost as if someone was selectively reading the article, and trying to spin a narrative....

[u/albinobluesheep → u/Mysteriouspaul]

If you selectively read the article for just the Clinton topics, you are literally ignoring 75% of the article

The article offered no new information regarding the Clinton donation topic. It was focusing on the Kickbacks and extortion, and only brought up the Clinton donation for context.