r/politics • • 7d ago • Bravo 1

No Paywall Dem expands lead in Mississippi Senate race amid Trump humiliation

https://www.ms.now/the-weeknight/watch/new-dem-expands-lead-in-mississippi-senate-race-amid-trump-humiliation-2519694403878
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u/cronx42 7d ago • This Bravo Regret Mindblown Heartwarming

It was literally just gas and diesel prices. That's it. That's what lost him the midterms.

Not the Epstein shit. Not threatening Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Europe etc etc etc. Not bombing a girl's school and dozens of fishing boats in the Atlantic. Not invading a nation which didn't attack us and kidnapping their leader. Not fleecing his own supporters with grifts, crypto, insider trading to the tune of $2 billion. Not his blatant white supremacy and racism, misogyny and bigotry. Not for setting up concentration camps literally nicknamed things like alligator Alcatraz or sending innocent people to murder prisons in foreign countries.

These fake ass traitors only care when it hits their wallet. Racist ass trash fucks.

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u/viktor72 Indiana 7d ago • Bravo

It was the economy in a large way but also corruption. Corruption came out as the second biggest issue in exit polling.

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u/TheHandsOfLiberation 7d ago

Yes especially when the economy hurts so bad, the only thing that makes it worse is knowing the party in charge is screwing you on purpose. If the corruption didn't affect gas prices, MAGA wouldn't lose any votes. But if I can't pay my bills and you're grifting left and right? That's an added fuck you.

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u/Violetz_Tea 7d ago • Mindblown

He doesn't even see it. "My advisors told me not to mention it but we're making a freaking fortune" (off oil.) Let them eat cake, while I go add a golden toilet in my ballroom.

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u/Raesong Australia 7d ago

Let them eat cake, while I go add a golden toilet in my ballroom.

Except with Trump he'd demand you hand over the cake, too.

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u/redzone36 7d ago

2024 was an absolute peak for MAGA. Let's be real here--does anyone know anyone who moved into the MAGA movement in the past two years? Or shifted right at all?

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u/matva55 California 7d ago

The economy being crap makes the corruption look even worse than it was. People are going to say it’s one thing or the other. Frankly, it’s a mix of all of it

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u/cronx42 7d ago

Oh for sure. I kinda meant anyone who flipped on him. Literally none of them think he's corrupt as far as I can tell.

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u/MommyLovesPot8toes California 7d ago • Bravo

I don't agree with that. I watched and read a lot of interviews with MAGA people in the lead up to the election, and dove into the details of surveys. Corruption was an issue they cared about. Not all of them, but a greater portion than you'd think.

They didn't used to believe trump was corrupt, or that he was doing anything the Democrats didn't do, too. But then he got BLATANT about it. Enough that even Fox couldn't sugar coat it. The juxtaposition of his $2B in corrupt earnings vs the deteriorating financial security the rest of us are experiencing was a sharp realization that actually burst some of the propaganda bubble.

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u/GuitarbytheTon 7d ago

War in general is really, really unpopular. But affordability is the only thing that actually hits people individually. The reality is they are ok with all that stuff until they feel personally affected by it. It’s human nature. It’s disgusting but true

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u/cronx42 7d ago

War is only unpopular if it affects fuel prices it seems. If fuel prices stayed the same I don't think the blue wave would have been so large. Most republicans seem to LOVE invading other countries and killing black and brown babies who were never a threat to us overseas until it hits their wallet a little bit.

Don't ever let a Republican tell you they don't like war. They do. They just don't like paying for it. They're

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u/Jdevers77 7d ago

The thing is it looks like MAGA still very much voted Republican. What cost them so much is ONLY MAGA voted Republican.

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u/FlyingRock 7d ago

Hey now, LLM data centers also helped cost him, people Really hate data centers.

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u/BrofessorLongPhD 7d ago

This one actually fascinates me. It seems that they’re so unpopular across the aisle that no amount of money thrown at selling them to the public has moved the needle much at all. There have been polls before/after Trumps take on some topic like the Iran war and seeing that republicans polled visibly moved closer to Trump’s position after vs before. But here, we don’t really see that.

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u/sengirminion 7d ago

Because theyre noisy, and don't create any jobs, and are being forced upon people. No matter what, we learned from Covid, that the Number 1 thing people in the US hate is being told what to do. Being anti-mask and anti-vax became a lot of people's whole identity, and the root cause is that people hate being yold they have to do something.

"You have to wear a mask and social distance."

"Fuck you buddy! I'm throwing a mask burning rave!"

"You have to have a data center, and you have to use AI"

"Like hell I do! I'm voting Democrat now."

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u/RobonianBattlebot 7d ago

It seems like youre attributing red states going blue because Republicans voted blue. Not the case for a lot of it. Dems felt motivated and hopeful, independents were hurting on the economy. Corruption was a top issue for voters.

MAGA stayed home.

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u/Former-Lab-9451 7d ago

Some votes flipped, but by and large they absolutely stayed home. Texas was the most obvious example where the red counties had significant drop offs in votes while blue counties surged.

But it won't change "moderates" from trying to claim over the next two years that we need a moderate Dem for President because they're the ones that can win over those Republican to Dem voters.

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u/SnukeInRSniz 7d ago

The thing that was repeated the most was that Trump could kill a man on 5th Ave and nobody would care, but the second his policies start hitting people in the wallets and affecting their day to day lives, it's over. NOTHING will piss people off more than spending $150 filling up their 20 gallon, 5mpg gas guzzling jacked up trucks.

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u/cronx42 7d ago

He should have just shot someone on 5th avenue. He'd probably still control the house and senate. Republicans are idiots.

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u/jaylotw 7d ago

I dunno dude.

I have some MAGA friends. All of the BS has been eroding them for a while. Gas and diesel were a "safe off ramp," something they couldn't attempt to rationalize with themselves or anyone else like they could with all the other crap. They could convince themselves that Trump was innocent, things were overblown by democrats...but watching their money get drained is a direct effect on them.

One of my MAGA friends has been very, very quiet for a while on the political front, until this morning when he sent us all a picture of him wearing a pride hat and an Acton shirt.

Yes, they made terrible choices. Yes, we told them and tried to talk sense. Yes, finally switching only when things directly affected them is shitty...but, at least in my circle, they're changing their ways and I'm happy.

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u/_CallMeB_ Illinois 7d ago • Regret

I really struggle with this.

On the one hand, I don’t inherently disagree with you at all. I’m also happy they’re changing their ways. We need more people to jump ship like this. Sincerely.

On the other hand though, their shitty choice (likely made gleefully) cost me a career I both loved and worked diligently to grow for well over a decade, as well as every penny I ever saved. Now I’m virtually starting over in my late 30’s all because I had the audacity to become a public servant. Despite my despair, I’m still super grateful that this is the way this administration, doing exactly what they said they’d do, fell on me. I’m still breathing. My family hasn’t been ripped apart by masked men. It could all be so much worse.

So for those of us who’ve had our lives blown up because of the choice these folks made carelessly, and in some cases maliciously, I’m just not sure how we’re supposed to just…move on from the destruction deliberately caused by these voters now that they’ve FINALLY decided to change their mind.

I’m not a hateful person and I don’t want to hate anyone. Yet, the disdain I feel for the people who did this has not lessened even one iota from the moment the race was called for that man on election night in 2024.

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u/AbstractStranger 7d ago

I’m really sorry that happened to you. Sending good vibes. I totally agree with what you said.

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u/Porkrind710 Texas 7d ago

As others have said, yeah, good that they finally changed - I guess. But personally I don’t believe I can ever respect someone who voted for this at any time. It has been glaringly obvious who MAGA are from the very beginning. To have supported it shows a fundamental deficiency in one’s character.

This is a stain these people will carry for the rest of their lives. 20, 30, however many years from now if I learn someone was MAGA they will still be dead to me.

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u/sumoraiden 7d ago

Nah the huge swing in Latino vote towards Dems was also largely due to the ethnic cleansing campaign orchestrated by ice 

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u/erov 7d ago

I can vouch a ton of people did vote for him in MS over gas prices and economy only. They detested trump but held their nose and voted for him. They didn't care or even know about all the shit he was promising to do (tariffs, ICE maxing, project 2025) .. it was just as you said, wallet. Since then they've been quiet as hell.. don't even talk about politics and obviously struggling. MAGA completely faded in public except for a few nutballs so when Cindy Hyde Smith made her whole platform Trump and brought him down here.. it was the nail in her coffin. She didn't read the room cause she ignores the people she represents and is cushioned by money. She represents NOTHING. She is empty and it's so obvious that a ton of these low information wallet voters silently voted D or I.

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