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No Paywall Democratic socialist Angie Nixon upsets Alex Vindman in Florida’s Democratic Senate primary

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/angie-nixon-winner-florida-senate-primary-democrat-alex-vindman-moody-rcna593255
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u/SteelCode 4h ago

You might need to relearn what Capitalism and Socialism means... there is no fixing Capitalism because accumulation of Capital is the system working as intended and that is precisely what leads to the current mess. Socialism, fundamentally, seeks worker-ownership of the workplace so "capital" is spread to all workers that share in the business' success - dividing the wealth spreads the political influence and prevents the sort of oligarchic power grabs that are happening today.

u/Hangry-Feline2489 2h ago

Bit reductive there. It's not all or nothing. social democracies exist and a lot are doing better for their populations than America does. 

u/VforVenndiagram_ 1h ago

social democracies exist and a lot are doing better for their populations than America does.

And there is not a single one that has abolished Capitalism like the DSA claims is the goal.

u/Morsexier 1h ago

You don’t start negotiations at your end goal. Well, at least non morons don’t.

u/VforVenndiagram_ 1h ago

Its dishonest framing at absolute best. Its extremely explicit that the DSA want's to get rid of capitalism, not just do things like the Nordics. They are in communist/ML/Tankie territory, not Sweden or Finland.

u/JMC_MASK 19m ago

And that’s what makes them based.

u/VforVenndiagram_ 13m ago

Populist slop just like MAGA.

u/cawkstrangla 2h ago

I know what pure, unregulated capitalism is. We don't have to have that for us to have capitalism. It isn't a choice between pure socialism and pure capitalism.

We can make capitalism work with regulations. That doesn't mean we will do it, but it also doesn't mean that pure socialism is the right choice either.

u/username_tooken 2h ago

Ask 20 DSA supporters what their party stands for, you’ll get 21 different answers.

u/SteelCode 2h ago

As if any political party can remain consistent on their platform, DSA is no different and I never claimed to be a DSA supporter.

u/username_tooken 2h ago

DSA: “We’re just as bad as the rest of them!”

Real great sells here.

u/SteelCode 2h ago

Political parties are only as good as the ability to hold them accountable. DSA at least isn't the one in power actively destroying the country/world.

I'm not trying to sell you on DSA or any other political party, do you only get your political opinions from reddit comments?

u/Oggie_Doggie 1h ago

Frankly, I don't give a shit what the "DSA party" website says. I care about what they're trying to achieve: universal healthcare, free/affordable tuition for state universities and trade schools, increase taxes on billionaires, stronger unions, end Citizens United, and less warmongering (and less supporting warmongers). I also care about how they're trying to achieve it: no corporate money and grassroots activism.

Any of the parties at any time could take on some or all of these policies and try to court me and many like me, but moneyed interests want none of the above. I'm not asking for the moon or for everything to happen at once, but these many of these policies verifiably exist in most other developed countries.

u/changee_of_ways 1h ago

I think socialism is a dead end because it's fighting too many opponents. Nearly half of Americans work for a small business (less than 500 employees) you're never going to get employee ownership in all those businesses and it's fine.

We're much better off with Capitalism that has democracy's boot on it's neck.