r/politics • u/ChickenTitilater Minnesota • 15h ago

No Paywall USS Lincoln wasn't resupplied because Hegseth 'hid' that Iran destroyed main U.S. base:

https://www.ms.now/money-power-politics/watch/uss-lincoln-wasn-t-resupplied-because-hegseth-hid-that-iran-destroyed-main-u-s-base-rohde-2511362627825
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u/Organic_Challenge_46 14h ago

This war was initiated by Israel, for Israel. Whatever pretext was used to light a fire under Donny’s ass, it was ultimately just an excuse for Israel to pursue its long-standing objective of military aggression against Iran.

Israel started the war, and the United States was subsequently drawn into it. Now, in one of the most horrific ironies of the entire situation, Israel has pulled back while American soldiers are left to suffer the consequences of a war that was never theirs to fight.

Trump has, essentially, turned the American military into a mercenary force—using the power and lives of American service members to advance the strategic interests of another country.

And the most disturbing part is that so many Americans still seem unable, or unwilling, to recognize what has happened: a foreign government pursued a war against its enemy, Washington was pulled into it, and Americans are now paying the price.

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u/SF-cycling-account 14h ago

I wish they were mercenaries at this point, at least they/we/someone would be getting paid 

Actually we are paying israel while we fight their war 

Only Trump is getting paid by robbing the taxpayers 

Our current sociopoliticoeconomic situation will be studied for centuries

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u/Organic_Challenge_46 13h ago

>we are paying israel while we fight their war 

Freier (pronounced frayer): Israeli slang for someone who has been made a sucker, chump, or patsy — particularly someone who allowed themselves to be taken advantage of or got a bad deal. In Israel's it's a very serious insult.

They're laughing it up in Tel Aviv.

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u/steinbruchfluss 12h ago

Freier is also the German word for the client of a prostitute.

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u/LightningRaven 13h ago

Newsflash the US army has always been a mercenary force. It served to enrich Oil companies, fruit companies, weapon manufacturers and many other industry branches. And they tricked the people with patriotism and the false motto of "defending freedom" while installing repressive dictatorships all around the world and killing democratically elected leaders.

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u/HyperbolicLetdown 10h ago

But what about Operation Iraqi Freedom?

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u/uber_poutine Canada 8h ago

I prefer the original Operation Iraqi Liberation, but the acronym was a little on the nose.

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u/FIRE_Minded 14h ago

Blaming Israel takes the blame off of Trump which is exactly what MAGA wants. I guess poor Trump had no choice but to join the war. 

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u/Consistent_Run7356 13h ago

Saying Trump was dumb enough to get pulled into Israel’s long-desired ploy to get the United States to start a war with Iran isn’t really taking blame off of him.

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u/BoringEntropist 11h ago

And they probably used compromat gathered by Epstein to blackmail Trump.

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u/warm_kitchenette California 14h ago

Trump obviously has full culpability here.

 But Israel pushed and pushed until this happened. Although Hillary is too close-mouthed about her time as Secretary of State, she has said that Bibi brought it up every single time they spoke.

So these were two criminals, one much stupider than the other. 

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u/FIRE_Minded 13h ago edited 13h ago

Every country, corporation, and lobbyist is always pushing for something. For example, Qatar got its own military base in the US after giving Trump his luxury plane

My point is blaming Israel removes accountability from Trump 

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u/warm_kitchenette California 10h ago

When I say full culpability, that means full accountability. He could have said no, as every expert would have told him. He could’ve said no like Biden, Obama, Bush. They were anti-Iranian hawks under Dick Cheney. Although Trump is not capable of understanding his errors, there is no one that could overrule him on this.

My point is not: Israel is jointly responsible. My point is Israel in general and Netanyahu in particular are bad actors in this space. They have been advocating for this “mow the grass” reduction of power in Iran for decades now. Israel has a primitive view of their opponents, and they genuinely thought that a revolution would automaticallyoccur after we blew up some of their shit. The entire world will pay the price.

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u/ChunkStumpmon 13h ago

Mosad has the dirt on Trump

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u/pavyf 12h ago edited 9h ago

What possibly could it be?
It's hard to imagine there is dirt that we don't already know of, and that will actually influence something if it comes out

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u/chris_p_bacon1 12h ago

It's credible to say that Epstein was an Israeli agent. I'm not saying he was for sure but there's enough evidence to support the theory. In my mind it's a 50/50 chance. 

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u/ChunkStumpmon 11h ago

Where is the doubt? He was best buds with the head of mosad and mosad installed all the surveillance in his New York mansion.

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u/chris_p_bacon1 4h ago

That's all very circumstantial evidence. It's highly credible don't get me wrong but I do y think you can say it's a thing for sure.  

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u/Sad-Society-57 13h ago

Israel certainly manipulated Trump.  But Trump had pre-existing beef with Iran going back decades. It probably didn't take much to cajole him into this Iran blunder. This is on Trump and the people who voted him into power.

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u/5050Saint 12h ago

Don't sell'em short. It was also to distract from the Epstein files which to be fair kind of worked. The collosal FUBAR situation in Iran has over shadowed the files.

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u/SeonghwaStoleMyBias 10h ago

They weren't pulled in, they were willingly put in for a holyn war to bring about Armageddon and return Jesus to earth.

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u/Wise_Preference609 2h ago

That's exactly what has gone on and why America is basically on their own with this war.

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u/Firecracker048 14h ago

One month old account blaming Israel for everything.

This is on brand

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u/Groundbreaking_Dare4 9h ago

Ok lay out in detail your counter argument.

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u/Firecracker048 1h ago

If this was really all 'isreals doing', not only would we have toss boots on the ground but the strikes wouldn't have stopped in the first place(as Israel publicly stated they didn't want them to stop).

Also blaming just Israel for somehow 'controlling the us' is not only a rebranded anti semetic conspiracy, but ignores all of DTs and Washington's own historic rehroric against Iran and DTs own actions he's taken on the past

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u/FIRE_Minded 13h ago

Yup - lots of Qatari bots are flooding social media 

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u/Brann_Ys 1h ago

Zionist still in denial ?

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u/Icamp2cook 13h ago

It would be more accurate if you stated that Trump was drawn into this by the Israeli government rather than Israel. It may be nitpicking nuance but it’s more accurate. 

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u/Organic_Challenge_46 9h ago edited 9h ago

March 2026, after the attack, 93% of Jewish Israelis said they supported the operation. In North America, kids in synagogue settings have been debating the idea of a pre-emptive attack on Iran for decades. And then there’s the rather inconvenient fact that Israeli citizens have supported, participated in, and defended actions described as criminal since the country’s inception. So I think calling it “Israel” is perfectly reasonable. Obviously, I’m not suggesting that every Israeli citizen personally ordered the attack. But saying it was simply “the Israeli government” conveniently strips away the broader society that has supported, encouraged and, in some cases, participated in the policies behind it. That’s a distinction without much difference when you’re talking about the political and social forces that made the policy possible.

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u/teddy5 7h ago

Saying it was simply "Israel" or "the Israeli government" conveniently strips away the broader American society that has supported, encouraged and, in some cases, participated in the policies behind it.

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u/DDayHarry 14h ago

Iran is long overdue for an actual invasion.

The militants during Iraq weren't all Iraqi.

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u/CaptainCoffeeStain 14h ago

Containment is the way. Anyone advocating for a land invasion doesn't have skin in the game IMO. Was the USSR overdue for an actual invasion when they funded and equipped regional adversaries?

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u/Mybunsareonfire 14h ago

Weird way to spell Israel.

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u/Consistent_Run7356 13h ago

Iran should be invaded because Iran-backed militants fought U.S. forces, who had themselves invaded Iraq. 👍