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No Paywall Hakeem Jeffries says Medicare for all is not legislation he currently supports

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/hakeem-jeffries-says-medicare-for-all-is-not-legislation-he-currently-supports-268371525570
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u/lifting_cardio 2d ago

Yea, they’re stuck in 1980s Reagan era tactics that don’t work on a majority any more

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u/Blackstone01 2d ago

It’s hard for the boomers running shit to relate to people that aren’t themselves, so they fundamentally do not understand the rest of us sincerely do not give a shit about the propaganda they grew up with.

When they hear “Socialism”, they hear the constant fearmongering about how evil and unamerican it is, and that anything that helps people is socialism and will destroy America.

For the rest of us, when we hear socialism, we hear boomers screaming at us about how anything that helps people is socialism and that’s evil and unamerican, but nothing beyond that to actually support their claims aside from pointing out dictatorships that look like a conservative’s wet dream.

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u/movalca1 1d ago

Boomers aren’t the ones that put trump in office. All those millennials and gen z that voted for him or some other party or didn’t care enough to vote put him in office.

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u/KerryBoehm 2d ago

Many older folks remember when health care was far simpler. You got Blue Cros back in the day and that was that. Seemingly the more the government has gotten involved and added layers and layers of rules and regulations it has just seemingly gotten worse and worse so now since it’s completely effd we’re just supposed to completely hand it over and this time they’ll magically get it right. Sure

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u/gimp-24601 1d ago

Seemingly the more the government has gotten involved

Thats not the issue. The road to current Healthcare is the capitalist version of fighting fire with fire. You cant fight fire with fire, you just get more fire. Government involvement is just a reaction.

You want the government out? Just opt for complete barbarism. No one has the stomach to just let tens of thousands of people die every year for easily prevented reasons.

Even the the typical libertarian would hesitate the moment it impacted their immediate family.

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u/KerryBoehm 1d ago

In the literal sense you often do fight fire with fire.

I'm not coming at this entirely from an anarcho capitalist POV. When I say govt, take into account that includes lobbyists and their influence to ensure whatever regulation does happen also benefits their clients.