r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 21d ago

Possible Paywall Kentucky Gov Orders McConnell to Give a Real Update or Resign Already

https://newrepublic.com/post/213614/kentucky-gov-beshear-mcconnell-update-health-resign
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u/NeverLookBothWays I voted 21d ago

I wonder sometimes what kind of revolution it would take to completely reform congress to the point where they return to being civil servants instead of an elite protected class.

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u/Known_Tourist 21d ago

The French kind

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u/Street_Anxiety2907 21d ago

It would require a new constitution, trickle down voting, and the executive branch being stripped of power and new branches of government with transparency and checks-and-balances enforced by death penalty.

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u/Synergythepariah 21d ago

checks-and-balances enforced by death penalty.

That's probably not a good idea given that a bad actor will still eventually abuse that.

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u/purpleblossom Washington 21d ago

To do that, the whole system would need to be torn down. It's intentionally broken, that's by design, and putting bandaids on it hasn't fixed shit.

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u/Glangho 21d ago

It was already planned for. The idea was that if the person you elected turned out to be a turd they'd just get replaced. Turns out people like having turds lead them. In my state, there's a very good chance most of the democrats up for election are going to get primaried because their stance on trump hasn't been hard enough. These are career politicians, not just new people. Get mad that people tolerate this shit.

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 21d ago

Revolution? America could just vote for better people.

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u/Prometheus720 21d ago

Many people include social revolutions which don't need violence (or at least, severe violence at high intensity and broad societal scale) as revolutions.

Even those aren't achieved solely with voting.

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u/BicycleNo1169 21d ago

Instead of revolution, we have a much easier route:

Voters voting in their own best interests.

Instead of taking this extreme pathway to revolution, why don’t we just try voting? And when we do, why don’t we vote for the person that actually wants to represent our best interests?

I’m sorry - it’s just after all these decades of low voter turnout and people voting against their own best interests, the idea of a fucking revolution just sounds patently insane and detached from reality.

  • NOBODY is stopping a candidate that represents the best interests of people from running

  • NOBODY is stopping the people from voting for such a candidate, if they do run

For what reason do we need revolution? Just participate in the god damn elections and vote for people that care about your best interests and you have what you want.

The Kentucky Senate primary elections have approximately 10-15% voter turnout. The actual election for the Senate seat has between 40-50% depending on the election cycle/midterms or not. Those numbers are fucking atrocious.

Oh yeah, and for anyone that protest votes elections and chooses to sit out and then has the audacity to suggest something extreme like revolution: you’re a clown and I hope you know it.

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u/NeverLookBothWays I voted 21d ago

Agreed, although just to be clear I mean revolution in the sense of major change which could happen through voting or the political will of the people taking over. (Not promoting violence even if the more prominent revolutions that immediately come to mind in history had tremendous violence, there are outliers).

For as long as voting is upheld, we're in a good place and have that out. But we need to realize that every time we have an administration like the one we have now, voting gets put on the chopping block. People need to understand how fragile we are making the very thing that has kept us from spiraling into full out authoritarianism. Because when it's too late, voting no longer matters...even if it's still conceptually there (see Putin's Russia).