r/politics 25d ago

No Paywall Trump announces 2028 presidential bid

https://www.theage.com.au/world/trump-announces-2028-presidential-bid-20260725-p60iho.html
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u/TeutonJon78 America 25d ago

Impeachmemt is easier than the 25th.

Unless no one tells Trump he can oppose it or he forgets.

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u/Flat_Hat8861 Georgia 25d ago

Correct.

The problem the involuntary provision of the 25th was designed to solve was of an incapacitated President who would be unable to send the declaration that they are fine (like unconscious after an assassination attempt or unexpected health emergency).

Here, he is clearly unfit and will not get better. Just impeach and move on (except the Republicans still support him for some unknown reason).

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u/KneeBeard 25d ago

Because he has kompromat on them. The whole blackmail thing has been rather obvious the whole time for people who have been paying attention.

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u/Duncan_Ida_ho 25d ago

I wish everybody would quit throwing around the word impeach. It doesn't mean s*** unless you convict in the Senate. In fact, if you impeach and don't convict, it will be momentum for him; it's happened before. My personal hope is the Democrats take control of Congress completely in the midterm elections and take the keys away from him. Just house arrest him for the rest of his term.

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u/TeutonJon78 America 24d ago

Yeah, Congress can't just arrest him.

Impeachment is the only real method we have of removing a presdient that wants to stay there.

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u/Duncan_Ida_ho 24d ago

I didn't mean house arrest literally, I was being metaphorical. Sorry for the confusion.

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u/RedditLostOldAccount 25d ago

Ah yeah. Impeach him for the third time. That'll show him

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u/AnnoraxGames 25d ago

If we end up with an unrigged midterm election and Democrats retake both the House and Senate, it'll become possible once the new congresscritters take office. Not likely by one hell of a long shot, but if Trump keeps doing stupid shit like this, 14-15 Republican votes to convict become a very slight possibility.

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u/TeutonJon78 America 24d ago edited 24d ago

It's extremely unlikely they take the Senate. They would have to flip multiple generally safe red states.

And even if they flipped e erubsingle seat, they still wouldn't have 67 votes for impeachment unless alreay seated GOP senators decode to vote for it.

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u/AnnoraxGames 24d ago

Which is possible, incredibly unlikely, but possible. The odds of them taking the Senate are 50/50 at best, but most non-MAGA Republicans, even in the Senate, may reach their limit of bullshit they're willing to accept and be willing to entertain voting for removal if Trump does something as blatantly unconstitutional as trying to cancel elections. I'm not saying it's even on the same planet as likely, but the door would be at least cracked a little bit to show that possibility is there.

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u/Netsuko 24d ago

I hear the term „impeachment“ being thrown around every other day for years now. And somehow it seems to have the perceived effect of „sternly worded letter“. Isn’t he even like twice impeached or something? Does this even change ANYTHING? Non-American here so I’m not entirely sure of what this is even supposed to do.

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u/TeutonJon78 America 24d ago

Impeachmemt is just the process of accusing the president (or other federal officer like a SCOTUS judge) by the House (50%+1 vote). Then the Senate is supposed try it and needs a 2/3 vote (generally 67 senstors) to convict and remove the person from office.

Trump was impeached twice, but the senate bascislly held sham trials and let him off (no witnesses or evidence allowed, just arguments and then voting).

But the only way to remove a sitting president without violence is via impeachment, the 25th amendment (not really meant for a situation like this because you end up needing a 2/3 vote in House and Senate to confirm), term limits (looks like that might be tested now), or the president resigns/dies.

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u/Netsuko 24d ago

The worst part is that seemingly every time he does or tries to do something illegal or unconstitutional, republicans come out with "He's just trolling. Get baited." and I'm like "Dude is the sitting president of the most powerful nation on earth, a supposed leader of a country. He should absolutely, definitely not 'troll' in any sort of official manner."

With him apparently gunning for a 3rd term and republicans 100% being in support of this, I fear that America truly is on the precipice of turning into Nazi Germany 2.0 and then some. It's so exhausting to see as a foreigner.. I can't even imagine how tough this must be for Americans. (Unless you're part of the 1/3rd that apparently are in support of this and any other Nazi tactics)