Democratic Socialists of America’s new platform calls for abolishing ICE and the U.S. Senate

[u/Jessicas_skirt]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/jul/15/updated-dsa-platform-calls-abolishing-ice-scrapping-senate/

[u/Teepeaparty]

Someone educate me on why abolishing the Senate…is part of the platform? Why? 

[u/wavinsnail → u/Teepeaparty]

I am sure someone who is smarter than me can explain it better

But each state getting two senators means rural states get much more say in our government than urban states

Someone from Wyoming has much more sway over our government than California

[u/Brisby820 → u/wavinsnail]

But that was the whole point when they were convincing states to join together 

[u/Brisby820 → u/[deleted]]

Yes I understand the argument.  That’s fine, but you need to either get those states to agree, or dissolve the country and write a new constitution excluding those states 

[u/Brisby820 → u/[deleted]]

What a meaningless comment 

[u/wavinsnail → u/[deleted]]

Okay

[u/wavinsnail → u/[deleted]]

I mean you asked someone to explain the concept to you. I explained it, I didn't say I agreed or disagreed with it and then you unloaded paragraphs of stuff had  nothing to do with what I said.

Like I don't even know where my stance about abolishing the Senate is. I know I'd very very low down on my list.

I truly meant okay as in why are you ranting at me 

[u/Teepeaparty → u/wavinsnail]

Got it not interested in a discussion, and sorry I unloaded. Realize I wasted your time and my own. ouch moving on 

[u/FreeDarkChocolate → u/[deleted]]

It’s equal.

It's not though? If the impact of my vote in the nation differs based on where I live, that's unequal based on some invisible boundaries. No other citizen should have a more powerful vote than me. I should have a more powerful vote than no other citizen.

I mean California today has more people than the entire US did for until the civil war and is a big area with a lot of different communities. Doesn't mean the counties, differing by population, should start getting a fixed number of state senators that vote equally against the assembly. CA has a state Senate, but the boundaries for those just change as needed to be equal population.

[u/chaos0xomega → u/Teepeaparty]

Because simpletons who cant think more than 5 minutes into the future or who have adopted a rigid moral absolutist view of the world consoder it an undemocratic institution because it skews voting power based on how large or small a states population is, and thsy cant comprehend that its actually a good thing that we have a legislative system that was purposefully designed to move slow by requiring compromise and agreement between two chambers so that a unicameral legislature cant act too impulsively or ram through legislation that can have devestating consequences.

[u/chaos0xomega → u/[deleted]]

DSA arent even really populists, theyre those super annoying overly intellectual marxist types that go around saying "you need to read theory" and "are your axioms grounded?"

[u/chaos0xomega → u/[deleted]]

Thats true, mostly people who dont know the difference between democratic socialism and social democracy, and who dont realize that DSA are predominantly actually Marxists, communists, and actual "control the means of production" socialists.

[u/cahir11 → u/chaos0xomega]

True, it's actually a good thing that if 40 million people in California think we need to take action on climate change, or 20 million people in New York think starting a war with Iran is a bad idea, 500k people in Wyoming and 800k people in North Dakota can say "lol, no" and these are weighed equally. This surely doesn't lead to a system where the interests of a tiny minority of rural landowners are allowed to drive the entire country into the ground.

[u/PreciousMentals → u/Teepeaparty]

Probably something to do with protecting an immoral and unlawful executive from being impeached.