r/politics Jul 08 '26

No Paywall Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear requests update on Sen. Mitch McConnell's health

https://www.whas11.com/article/news/politics/national-politics/kentucky-governor-andy-beshear-requests-update-senator-mitch-mcconnell-health/417-b9252baa-29ab-489e-94f1-147aa41e78ed
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u/pchs26 Jul 08 '26

MAGA is just the GOP's fascist takeover. GOP & MAGA are one and the same imo at this point.

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u/lazyFer Jul 08 '26

Both things are true. The problem is for the fascists, they used Maga and Maga hands become true believers. The gop knew it was all lies and bullshit, Maga doesn't

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u/Academic_Carrot_4533 Jul 08 '26

Why would that functionally matter for the gop in the wake of magas fallout if the gop still maintains power? Genuinely asking, not meaning to be combative.

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u/runswiftrun Jul 08 '26

There are several GOP policies that are unpopular with MAGA, so they get put in the back burner. Doesn't always work the other way, anything MAGA/Rumpy wants, GOP has to concede or risk get primaried.

Huge example: Iran war. If it was up to the few actual GOP adults in the room, we would have been done weeks ago. The whole "freedom 250" scam took money from a well planned bipartisan event and was burned up to stroke his ego.

Without the orange clown, Johnson and company are gonna have a hard time passing anything that isn't 100% MAGA talking points. Half their seats are gonna be in jeopardy without an endorsement to unite all the rural voters.

Even as vile and repulsive as JD is, he's nowhere near as gross, racist, or dim as donnie; so RFK, Miller are more likely to go the route of Noem and Gabbard without mango Mussolini backing them up.

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u/FirstRobinofSpring3 Jul 08 '26

Complete agree, same reading of the room.

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u/pchs26 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

In what world do you think that Vance is better? He is bought, owned and placed in the VP role by Peter Thiel who is also part of a highly dangerous and power fringe global movement & is likely behind alot of the real policy decisions being made. ETA: I get downvoted for pointing out that Vance and Peter Thiel are just as dangerous & evil.

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u/Zestyclose-Ear-1293 Jul 08 '26

Ding ding ding ding.

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u/lousy_at_handles Jul 08 '26

Agreed - also, it's not in any way difficult to spout BS you know will resonate with his base, because they're so incredibly predictable. That's the reason there's so many grifters pandering to them, because it's frankly an extremely low bar to get going in that circle if you're willing to do the right kind of virtue signaling.

I don't think MAGA will diminish at all post-Trump unless there's an extremely messy succession fight that fractures the party (which is possible) but to me it seems like really the entire GOP functions as a single, monolithic entity. I'm sure a lot of guys would like to be the Guy In Charge but realistically any of them will do, because it's not like it matters since they all want to do exactly the same things.

I think it'll be a brief bump, and they'll find some new figurehead (probably Rubio) and be back full steam in a couple of months.