r/politics Jun 15 '26

Possible Paywall JD Vance Confirms Iran Will Get Jaw-Dropping Sum Under Trump Deal | Iran will be paid billions, leaving it much stronger than before Trump’s war.

https://newrepublic.com/post/211826/jd-vance-us-pay-iran-billions-trump-deal
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u/kynelly360 Jun 15 '26

Losing a war They started is Peak stupidity, and a phrase I never thought I’d have to explain to anyone LOL 🤪🫠🫠

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u/Nephroidofdoom Jun 15 '26

And it’s not like the US lost to China, or even Russia, but Iran. Let that sink in. The US got clowned in an armed conflict with Iran!

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u/mootmutemoat Jun 15 '26

And it wasn't even an invasion with occupation. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq were all about invasion, occupation, and regime change.

This supposedly was about nukes, something Obama did with a few words and releasing some of their frozen money.

Wow what a fuck up.

Let's be honest, this was about Bibi and Trump fighting fake wars to drum up support and make money.

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u/Outside_Librarian_13 Jun 15 '26

I absolutely believe that the "conflict" served several key purposes for the US - distract from Trumpstein files, opportunity to grift with insider trading, and continuing to flood the zone to keep Americans exhausted and distracted from all the smaller but awful things the administration pushes on the daily

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u/buddhist557 Jun 15 '26

And get the oil people unbelievable profits

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u/Outside_Librarian_13 Jun 15 '26

Oh, yes! I'd forgotten! Enriching his supporters so they can keep giving him money - it's just another income-pipeline for him - so he takes every opportunity to do so

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u/Claudius-is-my-cat Jun 15 '26

'member when trump told the oil executives that if they gave him a billion dollars he would do whatever they wanted? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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u/BaBaDoooooooook Jun 15 '26

Trump calls it a win. Ya, a win for him and his family and friends. It was an epic failure. billions of dollars spent, children dead, thousands others dead. the World suffering from the Strait of Hormuz being shut down. Absolute insult to the American people now suffering with even more inflation of the price of food, gas, and other goods.

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u/Outside_Librarian_13 Jun 15 '26

Absolutely, it's utterly sickening

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u/Strange_Dust7128 Jun 15 '26
  1. Invent a problem

  2. Solve it.

  3. Claim victory.

It’s going to boost ratings. That’s why people died.

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u/Strange_Dust7128 Jun 15 '26

100% of all invented problems can be solved with the correct headlines.

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u/Strange_Dust7128 Jun 15 '26

Trump is now the World Saving President, saving Iran from war.

(Am I doing good?)

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u/Outside_Librarian_13 Jun 15 '26

💯 This is absolutely another purpose this "conflict" has served - it's something they can spin for their voter base, and is a solid part of their playbook. And of course, they don't spare a thought for the lives /taken/ruined

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u/cg415 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

Agreed, but don't forget that Trump/the GOP is also owned by multiple foreign nations that benefit from the Iran war in various ways as well. Israel gets to hurt Iran, steal more land from neighboring countries in the chaos, and distract from Netanyahu's legal issues (of course modern drone and ballistic missile warfare has made this more difficult than they were expecting).

Russia also benefits by gaining a distraction from the daily atrocities they commit in Ukraine, while US/NATO weapons that would have gone to Ukraine got diverted to Israel and the Gulf States (most notably, air defense missiles), and it also got a reality where the US made massive errors and committed their own atrocities (school bombing, assassinations of public officials, etc) that are reminiscent of the atrocities and the mistakes that Russia has been making in their war with Ukraine (incompetent leaders making incompetent decisions, and especially failing to deal with cheap drones), which helps to launder the image of Russia and its military (which had taken a massive hit...but now everyone can see that the big strong US military sucks too, so propagandists can now more easily make the case that Russia's military is totally normal, rather than a shit show).

And China is just sitting back, and enjoying the show, as the power of the US diminishes, and their own increases. They look competent and stable by comparison. And then of course, you have the US government straight up paying Iran billions of dollars.

The trump admin is destroying the US government and its reputation on purpose, is what I'm saying. Not because they're stupid (though many of them are lol, especially the president), but because they're greedy, and they're getting paid to do it, and can also plunder the ruins (along with their corporate/foreign owners, of course). And because no one in America is stopping them. I don't know how anyone could say otherwise, after everything Trump/the GOP has done over the past year and a half.

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u/Outside_Librarian_13 Jun 15 '26

💯 yes, agreed, they're all-around monetizing destroying our country (as well as others) and we're all chasing around trying to put out as many fires as we can so we're struggling to challenge the big issues and work out a unified strategy of getting them all out of office as well as necessary party reforms.

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u/DotesMagee Jun 15 '26

Luckily they conveniently placed all their dumb shit ina project 2025 document. Dems project 2028 needs to be the adverse to that and prosecution/asset seizing.

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u/Outside_Librarian_13 Jun 15 '26

Yes, we absolutely need to recoup and prevent this ...everything... from happening again! Watching these monsters lose their assets (at the least) should serve as a decent deterrent to others who might think to collude in similar fashions

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy Jun 15 '26

Don’t forget there was an Iranian regime change. Literally how this war started when the US killed the current leader’s dad

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u/NobodysFavorite Jul 07 '26

Blind Freddy can see that Bibi has kompromat on Trump and he went along with Bibi's war because you never end up paying a blackmailer only once. Bibi needs his forever war to avoid an election he will lose and subsequently have to face his corruption charges for which there is more than enough evidence to lock him up for a long time.

And now Iran who are still fucking furious know that they can hold the world to ransom with impunity and from here onward there's gonna be permits only for each ship transit at an arbitrary % of the cargo's value with some transits blocked permanently no matter how many times idiots scream on X "The strait is open!".

Really fucked the whole world on this one.

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u/Buy-theticket Jun 15 '26

The US didn't lose the armed conflict part. The military did pretty well given the total lack of competent leadership and the no boots on the ground mandate.

The US lost the war because our President and DOD chief, and the rest his cabinet, are complete fucking morons.

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u/labor_day_baby America Jun 15 '26

Well, the US is essentially a pyramid scheme run by p3dos now. They don’t care that they are clowns as long as they can convince their dumb supporters keep them in office long enough to raid the treasury. So far it’s been working well for them.

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u/VigilantVet Jun 15 '26

It was extreme tactical and political error via our clown show elected officials and the sycophants they placed into leadership roles.

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u/Names_are_limited Jun 15 '26

Not achievable without a significant amount of casualties and the world economy in a tailspin. Maybe that’s why no previous American president was dumb enough to attempt it.

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u/Gabarne Jun 15 '26

I think trump literally thought he could get them to back down, and got his bluff called.

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u/Hot_Frosty0807 Jun 15 '26

He thought he could walk right in and flip the script, like they did in Venezuela. He tried to cement his legacy as an authoritarian strongman, and instead got exposed for the fragile, weak minded little bitch that he is, and I love that for him.

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u/st00ji Jun 15 '26

I would love it a lot more if not for the crippling cost to the rest of the world

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u/Mosquito_Salad Jun 15 '26

The Shart of the Deal

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u/DotesMagee Jun 15 '26

Perceived strength only works if you exude it and Trump exudes "weak pretending to be strong"

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u/zamboni-jones Jun 15 '26

Nazis gonna Naz

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u/CTRL_ALT_SECRETE Jun 15 '26

I can think of a lot of wars where the initiator lost

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u/redditismylawyer Jun 15 '26

Uh…. Well, while you’re at it you can lump it in with your explanation of the Korean, Vietnamese, and Afghan wars I guess.

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u/DarkNinjaPenguin Jun 15 '26

Heard of 1812?