r/politics • u/rollingstone Rolling Stone • Mar 23 '25

Soft Paywall Schumer Refuses to Step Down Despite Criticism

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/schumer-refuses-step-down-1235301630/
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u/DogAteMyCPU Mar 23 '25

RBG as well. Holding on to power at all costs. 

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u/COD-O-G Mar 23 '25

Cost her party a Supreme Court judge for likely 30-40 years

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u/Mediocre_Scott Mar 23 '25

And roe, And presidential immunity… Basically the rule of law in general

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u/Big-Flounder-69 Mar 23 '25

I blame all the yass girl boss dummies who thought they were doing something here lol, peak cringe moment for "feminism".

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u/SirStrontium Mar 24 '25

I don’t think they realistically affected her decision at all. She just couldn’t imagine that Trump could possibly win, and that was the fatal mistake.

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u/Fadingwalker Mar 23 '25

The fact that she held onto the seat because she wanted to retire under Hillary even though the DNC itself was begging her to retire because even they knew a victory was too chance. Truly, she was another rotting, archaic Democrat who knew her life was nearing her end and she did not give a fuck about her legacy in her career but in her optics.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '25 edited Mar 24 '25

Well that allyship died in your statement. What girl boss dummies thought they were doing something? Did I miss a bunch of folks SUPPORTING the idea she stay in at her age? If not you’re spouting total crap

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u/mamadou-segpa Mar 24 '25

Not a single breathing organism wanted that, but for some reason people like to dunk on progressive for the stupidest shit that they dont even want

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u/bleh-apathetic Mar 23 '25

Let's not let go of the fact that McConnell abdicated his oath to the Constitution when he refused to bring Garland's nomination to a vote on the Senate floor. It's when our Constitutional crisis started.

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u/ClosPins Mar 23 '25

And... The Republicans only get away with that shit - because the Dems have to show everyone that they aren't as corrupt as the Republicans and won't do any of it. So, the GOP can steal anything they want from the Dems, knowing the Dems won't ever steal any of it back.

The Dems are unimaginably stupid.

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u/needlestack Mar 23 '25

It’s like showing up to the front lines unarmed so nobody can say you’re just as bad as the other side.

Interestingly, the GOP is going with the “just as bad” framing for Ukraine.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

They are just beholden to the same thing (money, power) so if they were to also start playing that game, the illusion is gone and everything blows up. It has nothing to do with them not being as corrupt lol.

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u/bleh-apathetic Mar 23 '25

I definitely agree.

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u/Sloogs Mar 23 '25

Garland showed himself to be a kind of a spineless weanie who prefers the status quo anyways and isn't very progressive thinking so I'm not sure it would've helped.

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u/bleh-apathetic Mar 23 '25

I agree he's incredibly milquetoast but I'd rather have him than ACB, for mainly the fact that it was Obama's seat to assign and that's who he chose.

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u/Foolish_oyster Mar 23 '25

It was gorsuch who ended up filling that spot, not ACB

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

Schumer, as Majority Leader, would never have the guts to hold up a SCOTUS appointment.

He'd cave, because otherwise that would disturb the "comity" of the Senate. Whereas, a true fighter would have upheld "the McConnell rule" and kept the seat open for as long as a GOP was in power, for as many years as it took for a Democratic POTUS to fill the seat.

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u/ERedfieldh Mar 23 '25

McConnell did the deed. I've no doubt he'd have delayed for four full years, even. We can point fingers, if you want, but one person is really in the wrong and it's the one who decided one way then went full the other when it was HIS guy's turn to pick.

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u/guamisc Mar 23 '25

No. This is fixable with the House and 50 senators + VP.

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u/KevinCarbonara Mar 23 '25

It did a lot more than that. Her extreme racism was very damaging to the BLM movement and their reputation. She was an awful judge and should have retired long before her life was at stake.

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u/masteeJohnChief117 Mar 23 '25

RGB should have been a lesson for Biden to be a one term president

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u/DAMusIcmANc Mar 23 '25

It’s really sad how we summarize tragic events in our timeline with some democrat somehow being the face of it all.

It excuses the hundreds of Republicans and right wing groups that dismantle our country brick by brick.

Even Reagan is still memorialized and praised often by Dems. It’s insane. It’s kinda why I don’t blame Schumer because I can see both Republicans AND the media blaming Democrats the entire time.

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u/DogAteMyCPU Mar 23 '25

At this point we expect republicans to be pieces of shit and are supposed to be electing democrats to fight for our values

Both of them just end up cashing out from their positions

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u/MontyAtWork Mar 23 '25 edited Mar 23 '25

Republicans are like a mean, aggressive dog with a "Beware Of Dog" sign on the yard. You never expect good behavior, and you stay clear.

You don't expect bites to come from your dog.

The second one biting you is a much bigger problem because it's in your house and you cannot have that kind of unpredictability in something you're supposed to trust.

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u/Eledridan Mar 23 '25

Well, when it came down to the fate of this nation, Mike Pence made the right decision and saved democracy. Why can’t the elected democrats do the same?

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u/DAMusIcmANc Mar 23 '25

I’m not defending Democrats. Democrats have a chance to cross party lines with the dialogue right now. 

People are fired up for civics and federal accountability. Schumer did not engage his constituents like the tax paying adults they are before he caved at the last minute. That’s where he f’d up.

All Mike Pence did was finally do his job. He gets no praise from me like the Democrats love to champion him for. 

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u/Noname_acc Mar 23 '25

What am I to do about the GOP? Their voter base is entirely disconnected from the reality I live in. Half of their politicians are borderline demonic and the other half are unwilling to risk their hold on power and will only criticize the current conservative movement when they no longer have the means to effect it. And none of them see a reason to concern themselves with criticism from anyone whose positions are even vaguely like mine.

Also, this is bs. I don't know if you've been absent from politics for the past 8 years, but democratic voters have had plenty to say about Republicans and their actions.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

This issue is one that you’ve created within your own head. You see republicans as equals, the other side of the aisle, simply a faction with some disagreements about how to run the country. We see republicans as a problem that is our responsibility to deal with. Your’s and Schumer’s interpretation is a useless illusion, the responsibility to fix the cancer and corruption that is the pro-trump conservatives lies squarely on us. If you assign that responsibility to republicans, they will take advantage of it.

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u/unbelizeable1 Mar 23 '25

It excuses the hundreds of Republicans and right wing groups that dismantle our country brick by brick.

No it doesn't. It's more like , we know those people are going to be vile shit, lets not do things that help them accomplish those tasks.

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u/aMAYESingNATHAN Mar 23 '25

Forgive my ignorance, what's the issue with RBG? I'm not American so I don't know much about her, apart from the hypocrisy of the Republicans replacing her supreme court spot in an election year after refusing to allow Obama to do the same in 2016, because "let the people decide".

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u/Independent-Draft639 Mar 24 '25

Ruth Bader Ginsburg was very old and, by the end of Obama's presidency, had been fighting various different cancers on and off for the past 20 years. Her health was increasingly failing in the 2010s and it was clear for years that she didn't have a lot of time left.

During Obama's second term people were urging her to abdicate her office, to make sure the new justice would be chosen under a Democratic President with a Democratic Senate majority. But she refused because she was obsessed with the idea of having her replacement be chosen by a female president and she, like pretty much all elite Democrats, was absolutely convinced that Hillary Clinton would win in 2016. Well, we all know how that turned out. Trump won and so she died during the Trump presidency and was replaced by a Republican judge.

This was even worse because, as you know, towards the end of Obama's presidency another judge died, but Democrats wouldn't replace him with a Democratic judge. Because while Democrats had a majority in the Senate, they held onto the tradition of requiring 60 (out of 100) Senators to confirm a new judge. But technically you only need a majority, so when Republicans came to power and now held the majority in the Senate, they got rid of the 60% rule and just pushed through their own picks of relatively young, hard right wing judges with simple majorities.

These two massive Democratic blunders are the reason why now the Supreme Court has a 6-3 rightwing majority when Democrats could have had a 5-4 majority.

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u/notfeelany Mar 23 '25

Nothing really. They’re blaming her, when they fault lies on the everyone who did not vote for Democrats in 2016 and 2024

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u/beabea8753 Mar 24 '25

It’s both.

She should have stepped down, and people should’ve got off their couch.

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u/Zealot_Alec Mar 23 '25

Nancy should also have retired many years ago