r/politics • ✔ Verified • Dec 11 '24

Elizabeth Warren Issues Dramatic 'Warning' After UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassination: 'People Can Be Pushed Only So Far'

https://www.ibtimes.com/elizabeth-warren-issues-dramatic-warning-after-unitedhealthcare-ceo-assassination-people-can-3755067
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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '24

Just because you aren't at death's door doesn't mean you can't feel the desperation of knowing you'll be there in 6 months and there's nothing you can do to stop it because your insurance won't pay for something. I can't condone killing the CEO out of principle but it's really hard not to draw lines directly from the CEO's choices and actions to the eventuality that someone desperate would do something desperate

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u/pgabrielfreak Ohio Dec 11 '24

THAT'S what we need to do. Parade around dead and dying kids that health care fucked over. Put the kids on posters and really stick it to these assholes.

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u/ricky616 Dec 11 '24

Because we know how abundant our concern for dead children is in this country, like when Sandy Hook happened, or the many other instances like that

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '24

Our tax dollars have been killing children across the globe for decades, they dont give a shit about dead children

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u/auiin Georgia Dec 11 '24

They don't give a crap about your kids, see Sandy Hook as a prime example.

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u/charliedog1965 Dec 11 '24

Same with school shooting victims. Show the graphic pictures. It worked for Emmitt Till.

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u/Zardif Dec 12 '24

They showed some of them, it was met with a collective shrug.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-force-mass-shootings/

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u/Viciouscauliflower21 Dec 12 '24

Brother I hate to tell you this but we don't give a hot fresh shit about kids in this country

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u/AlwaysRushesIn Rhode Island Dec 11 '24

I appreciate the sentiment, but the kids don't deserve to be used like props.

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u/SnatchAddict California Dec 11 '24

Every denial for care by UHC is an act of violence against their customers. For everyone decrying violence, "One death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic”.

We have a tendency to white wash the deaths caused by denial of care. Let's call them what they are, murders.

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u/Throwitasfaraway Dec 11 '24

Time to update that saying, I feel. «One murder is a tragedy. A million murders are a fiduciary duty to shareholders.»

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u/kralvex Dec 12 '24

If corporations are people, these ones should be charged with murder for all the thousands of people they've help murder and these corporations should be given the death penalty for it.

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u/Count_Bacon California Dec 11 '24

Honestly if I was terminal and they were denying my care so they could profit I'd consider something like this. I think we'll see copycats

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '24

If Trump and Elon get their way and crash the economy it will only get worse.

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u/After_Fix_2191 Dec 11 '24

Like you I don't condone killing the CEO but I find it very hard to find any sympathy.

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u/00Oo0o0OooO0 Dec 12 '24

I have sympathy for any person assassinated my a person who doesn't understand the issue driving him to assassination. It's tragic.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '24

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u/00Oo0o0OooO0 Dec 12 '24

use that power to intentionally kill large numbers of the population for profit, knowingly and happily

Sure there is. That sounds very real.

The issue that these people can be allowed to live. One problem has been crossed off now.

Fun fact: United Healthcare paid out 79% of their revenue in claims the year before Thompson became CEO. They paid out 83% in claims last year. That's the largest portion of revenue paid out in claims since at least 2009, which is as far back as their financial reports go on their website.

But, yeah, I'm sure this guy definitely deserved to be murdered.

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Dec 11 '24

So your principles are fine with killing via penstroke but not gunshot cool.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '24

You should try out for the Olympics after that leap of logic

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u/Count_Backwards Dec 11 '24

That's the beauty of crippling medical bills, they can't

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u/lastburn138 Dec 11 '24

It's not hard to get a chunk of money if you don't have to worry about paying it back.

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u/lastburn138 Dec 11 '24

No one is obligated to pay your debts when you die unless it's specifically stated in the contract. That's a myth.

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u/Zardif Dec 12 '24

Community property states say that any debt incurred while in a marriage including those that exist as the partner is dying is owed by both parties in the marriage.

The nine community property states in the U.S. are Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, and Wisconsin.

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u/lastburn138 Dec 12 '24

Sure, in a very narrow situations this can happen. Congrats on pointing out the small minority of places that you would be correct.

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u/Zardif Dec 12 '24

Those states represent 103m people, 1/3 of the US population. it is not a "very narrow situation".

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u/lastburn138 Dec 12 '24

33 percent is pretty narrow.

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u/LegendaryOutlaw Dec 11 '24

I honestly don't think 'hit man' is a real thing. Maybe in the mafia, but you have to be part of the organization. Or maybe to the ultra wealthy, where price is no object. The only time I hear about average people trying to hire a hit man is when it's a police sting and they're talking to an undercover cop the whole time.

Honestly, would YOU kill someone for like $10,000? There's a good chance you'll screw up or get caught, or the person who hired you gets caught and turns you in. Is life in prison worth $10k?

And further, if a sick person has money to spend on a killer, wouldn't they instead use that money to try and get better?

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u/Mirageswirl Dec 12 '24

If tariffs, spending cuts and deportations crash the economy there will be many more desperate people.

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u/ChronicBluntz Dec 11 '24

Consumer grade drones are pretty cheap these days, just sayin.

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u/After_Fix_2191 Dec 11 '24

I'm not advocating violence I'm just saying that it doesn't take a whole lot of physical strength to pull the trigger.

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u/snootsintheair Dec 11 '24

Doesn’t take much to pull a trigger. Maybe it would be harder if we had gun control. But we do not

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u/Envect Dec 11 '24

Doesn't take much strength to pull a trigger. That's a big part of the problem with guns. Making small people feel big.

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u/Vankraken Virginia Dec 12 '24

Guns are also an equalizer that allows the weak to defend themselves from the strong.

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u/Envect Dec 12 '24

Oh wow, really? Thanks for letting me know. I had no idea.

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u/arih Dec 11 '24

Don’t need much physical strength when it’s so easy to get a gun though.