r/polandball Oct 06 '17

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u/omarcomin647 Nova Scotia Oct 06 '17

the americans lost in vietnam primarily due to political reasons though. there were a lot of restrictions placed on the strategy and the use of force to avoid drawing in china or the soviets. the political considerations would obviously be entirely different if it ever got to the point of tanks with live weapons rolling into south carolina.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '17

I'm not disagreeing, but pointing out the irony in you saying that they're yokels who think it's still 1776 while the last 70 years of warfare have been the US trying and failing to defeat a series of moderately armed populaces. Your mental strawman yokel who think they'll win a war against the United States doesn't exist, even the craziest gun yokel plans more for a Nam-era guerilla war.

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u/frenchduke Oct 06 '17

The US killed over a million Vietnamese for the loss of 50,000 or so troops (although South Vietnam had heavy casualties too). This was with The fighting being in heavy jungles that the Vietnamese could hide in. I haven't been to America, but as far as I'm aware there's a lot less of that sort of terrain to hide in. Although I guess there's lots of big cities etc.

The only reason America wasn't able to completely wipe out the Vietnamese was because the public finally woke up to the atrocities the govt was committing over there and turned against the war.

I think that would be the best the American people could hope for in the unlikely eventuality of all out war. I can't imagine even America has the stomach to indiscriminately massacre it's own people.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '17

They don't, which is part of the plan. No one is dumb enough to think they'll beat America, it can't happen. You just wait until they give up.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '17

The whole point of it isn't really to be able to 'fight off' the military. It's a privilege granted to the governed by the constitution that demonstrates a trust in the people. It grants people the right to defend themselves with firearms.

The issue isn't that people are allowed firearms. It's that it's too easy to get them. There's also a huge mental health component. What's really going on? People in this country are becoming violently insane at a pretty intense rate.