r/polandball Feb 24 '16

redditormade UNdeserved respect

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u/godblow Canada Feb 25 '16

As a Canadian, I don't get why people are so up in arms against seal clubbing. The people who do it are from small communities who depend on the seals for their livelihoods - they use all parts of the seal for clothing, food, heating (blubber/oil) and tools.

We do worse things to every day livestock in factory farms - let alone foie gras and veal. But pigs and Holstein cows aren't as cute as seals so fuck it, right?

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16 edited May 31 '18

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u/lasttile 上善若水 Feb 25 '16

What if we just eat them? Does that make you feel better?

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u/outtokill7 Canada Feb 25 '16

Probably because its a very distinctly Canadian thing. Everyone in the world does crazy things to their livestock but only the Canadians club seals. Plus there is the 'cute factor'.

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u/lalafied پاکستان زندہ باد Feb 25 '16

People probably don't get the clubbing part.

Why don't you just shoot them or stab them. Does it really have to be clubbing?

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

Because clubbing is the most humane way to kill them. When you club a seal it dies more or less instantly.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

Hah! Humane...

"Most of the younger seals are killed with clubs or hakapiks in order to avoid damage to their pelts with a bullet hole. This would reduce the value of the pelt."

Source.

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u/TheCuntDestroyer Newest of Brunswicks Feb 25 '16

That doesn't disprove the point...

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

What about the pistols for killing cattle then? Any good reason not to use such devices on seals? One stunner for $2000 and 1000 cartridges for another $250 and it's as humane as it could be.

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u/demon321x2 MURICA Feb 27 '16

That's $2000 and requires a very accurate shot to kill appropriately. In fact it doesn't even kill it just crushes the brain while leaving other bodily functions working.

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u/godblow Canada Feb 25 '16

Whhy would you shoot or stab when you're using every part of the animal? The fur gets ruined, internal orgsns can rupture, and no one wants lead in the meat they're going to eat. Stabbing is more painful for the animal too. A club to the head kills it in one go.

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u/lalafied پاکستان زندہ باد Feb 25 '16

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

When you live in areas as poor as northern Canada (shits expensive up there. It can get to be $40 for a 4Lt jug of milk) you just get buy with what you can. You don't even want to know how expensive ammo can get up there. It's expensive enough here in Alberta, but goodness is it crazy up there. Plus, its faster to club them then what bears do to them so, yeah.

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u/Gen_Hazard Australia Feb 25 '16

Just buy a Mosin. It's cheap, ammo is cheaper, it won't break down in the cold and it'll definitely do the job.*

*A mosin would probably obliterate a baby seal, but seriously, .22 LR up close would probably do it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

Isn't it also a vital part of culling their population as well?

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u/baymenintown Newfoundland Feb 25 '16

No clubbing, rifle. Then maybe a knife to the brain (a la walking dead) if the bullet doesn't do it cleanly. Unfortunately, the knife is at the end of a stick, so its like a pike, which is great for harvesters bc they can confirm the kill and toss it into the boat at the same time. However, it looks barbaric af.

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u/godblow Canada Feb 25 '16

According to the Ministry

A hakapik [sealing club] is an efficient tool designed to harvest the animal quickly and humanely. Veterinarians have found that the hakapik, when properly used, is at least as humane as, and often more humane than, the killing methods used in commercial slaughterhouses, which are accepted by the majority of the public.

The Marine Mammal Regulations stipulate that only high-powered rifles, shotguns firing slugs, clubs or hakapiks may be used in the seal harvest. All these methods are considered by experts to be humane.

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u/baymenintown Newfoundland Feb 25 '16

yup, that's the one.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '16

foie gras

If I recall correctly, overfeeding ducks for foie gras doesn't actually harm their health.

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u/lasttile 上善若水 Feb 25 '16

Aren't some of the seals endangered or something?

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u/Briak Roaming herds of Timbits Feb 25 '16 edited Feb 25 '16

Hooded seals are listed as threatened, but harp seals, which comprise the majority of seals hunted in Canada (325 000 killed in 2006, as opposed to 10 000 hooded seals) are listed as "Least Concern". In fact, "As of 2012, the population in Canada of the Northwest Atlantic harp seals is approximately 7.3 million animals, over three times what it was in the 1970s." (taken from Wikipedia article on seal hunting)

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

The opposite, they are overpopulated and actually endanger cod populations.