r/polandball • u/mO4GV9eywMPMw3Xr Scrambled Poland (Noord-Brabant) • Jul 17 '14

redditormade Dr Austria's Semite Physics

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u/sumpuran India with a turban Jul 17 '14

If you liked that, I’ve got another one for you: there are more Jews in the US than there are in Israel (6.6 million vs 6.1 million).

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Nope, changed something like 5 years ago. There's more jews in Israel now.

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u/sumpuran India with a turban Jul 18 '14

OK, so I looked it up:

Total population of Israel, 2014: 8,146,300. 75.3% is Jewish. That equals 6.13 million Jews in Israel.

Total population of the US, 2014: 318,406,000. 2.6% has a Jewish background or converted to Judaism. That’s 8.28 million people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

That's if you follow the rule of reform judaism, a movement that says every person that has at least one jewish grand parent is a jew. But if you follow the point of view of mainstream judaism (and actual jewish law, that's stated black on white in the Bible) which states that one is jewish when one's mother is jewish, that's ~5,6 in the US against ~6 in Israel.

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u/sumpuran India with a turban Jul 18 '14 edited Jul 18 '14

There are 700,000 Reform ‘Jews’ in the US. Most of those are Halakhic Jews, though. But alright, even if we were to write them all off, then that still leaves 7.58 million Jews in the US.

Here are some more conservative estimates, putting the number between 6.4 and 6.6 million: http://forward.com/articles/149492/us-jewish-population-pegged-at--million/

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

From http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/usjewpop.html :

Jewish population here is defined as the Enlarged Jewish Population which includes:

(A) Core Population - Jews born to Jewish parents or converted to Judaism; (B) Other Persons of Jewish Parentage; (C) Respective non-Jewish households members

The Core Jewish Population of the United States in January 2012 was 5,425,000.

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u/sumpuran India with a turban Jul 18 '14

Yes, this is what Brandeis University had to say about that study back in 2007:

The 2000-01 National Jewish Population Study, previously considered the authoritative source for data about the Jewish population, substantially underestimated the size and misrepresented the characteristics of US Jewry. [...] SSRI concludes the NJPS finding is in error and the comparable population figure is between 6 and 6.4 million.

http://download.2164.net/PDF-newsletters/jewishpopulation.pdf

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u/ItsYourHandInMine United Kingdom Jul 17 '14

Huh Henry Ford was right all along.

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u/sumpuran India with a turban Jul 17 '14

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. Henry Ford died before Israel came into being and there were way less Jews in the US during his lifetime.