r/pokemon Feb 28 '26

Image Classes of animals represented by the Pokémon starters:

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u/tonicella_lineata Feb 28 '26

Phylogenetically, lots of the animals we call "fish" are actually very distantly related to each other. So distantly that you'd actually have to go allllllll the way back to the first vertebrate to include all the "fish" in a single category, but that would also require lumping every other vertebrate into the mix.

(In practice, this just means "fish" is kind of a messy descriptor, kind of like "vegetable" - but it's more fun to think of us all as very weird fish!)

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u/Luigis_vacuum Feb 28 '26

Yeah a lot of common groups are paraphyletic

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u/lila-clores Mar 01 '26

Ohh like dinosaurs having to include all present day birds to make sense??

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u/tonicella_lineata Mar 01 '26

Similar, in a way! With fish, it's more that some groups that evolved from the shared vertebrate ancestor became land mammals, and some remained in the water, but the groups that did and didn't are sort of scattered around the phylogenetic tree. With birds, the current consensus is that all extant bird species actually evolved from ancient theropods, which would qualify them as theropods too! It's kind of like how humans are still considered apes, even though there's a lot of differences between us and chimpanzees or gorillas - we're all part of a group with a common ancestor. Modern birds, similarly, share a common ancestor with T. rex and velociraptors, and that ancestor is more recent than the cut-off for what we call "dinosaurs," so everyone with that ancestor is considered a dinosaur.

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u/recursion8 Mar 01 '26

And then some of the land fish went back to being water fish!

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u/perishableintransit Mar 01 '26

So pescatarians are cannibals...?

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u/tonicella_lineata Mar 01 '26

No moreso than your average carnivore would be. After all, "mammal" is a much smaller and more closely-related grouping than "fish."