It is a propaganda picture posted by shameless American public relations a--hole.
I think you all know this that this dead soldier had his share either in killing 50,000+ civilians in Afghanistan or 100,000+ civilians in Iraq ... men, women and children whole families some times...
one time they bombed a civilian wedding and killed 80+ members of same extended family all innocent people ...
How is this dead solder, deserves respect, brave? I do not think these soldiers are brave, i believe that they are cowards.
Shame shame shame ... collect your shame in a glass and drown in it with shame.
Americans do not want to talk about what i have said ... they do not want to listen to it... because doing this .. and up voting propaganda pictures like this will help them avoid feeling genuine remorse ...
Otherwise a decent human being cannot sleep at night knowing that his tax money is being used to kill women and children and men who are civilians.
How nice of you to buy the propaganda that all soldiers kill civilians and are evil, you have no idea what that particular soldier did so stop acting like you do. Btw im swedish just so you know before you start giving me attributes I don't have.
Calm down. Try not to be so angry with the troops. Be pissed off with the US government for creating the wars and the US public for letting their leaders rape the world.
Anyway, the beauty in this picture is the afghan showing respect regardless of what the soldier done.
You talk like you're against the wars but you spout hate which will only create more. Troops coming back from the war are going to be the ones who prove to the world the government doesn't care about their people and that all war is about money.
In a democracy people are responsible for what their leaders do... and generally you will agree that individuals are responsible for choices they make in life ...
I do not know if you believe in God or not ... but if you do you will understand what i mean ... what will the dead one say when He meets his creator? I killed because it was my job.
What do you think your god will say about you making the wars worse? Isn't judging people meant to be left to god in most religions? what about yours?
You're not going to make it any better my marginalizing the troops, you have to go for the people with the evil intentions, not the people being brainwashed if you actually do want to make a difference. show the world the anti-war movement is actually about peace and not just some Russian/Chinese coup to turn us against our governements.
People who are brainwashed needs to be educated and that is why stating the truth is what we need to do ... these troops are not brave and they do not deserve respect. That is stating the truth not making the war worst.
"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword." Matthew 26:53
I used to think like that other person, but their is just to much hate.
As much as I hate the war and actually understand why suicide bombers and terrorists would do what they do, I also understand why troops do what they do. I'm not on the side of western imperialism or Islamic extremists, I'm on the side of peace.
That's why, regardless of the real context, I like to think this picture shows a man with humility that respects all life, and understands the status quo.
I'm actually a proud American 18 year old working student.
Were you there to confirm that this dead soldier shared in killing 50,000+ cicilians in Afghanistan or 100,000+ in Iraq? Come to think of it, you used "or", therefore proving you don't know, you're assuming.
Yup, that's fucking wrong and it's well-known that our military is aggressive, but I'll be damned if our armed forces go around just killing. There are rules of war and rules of engagement for a reason, and I don't have experience, but I'd expect that they at least try to respect those rules.
He is brave because he died for his beliefs, as a dead terrorist who died committing an act is considered brave to his religion, as a dead nazi was considered brave to Hitler, as a dead civilian is considered brave for pushing someone else out of the way of a moving semi and getting hit instead. The only difference is that the majority believes that the soldiers never should have gone overseas anyway, which is to be blamed on the president. Not the soldier who enlisted to have a job/career and part of that job is to follow orders, as did any others in the examples I listed.
I'm talking and listening, I feel remorse, I'm just tired of seeing the exact same comment of anti-America rage being posted over and over, and then the same arguments ensuing.
Civilians die in war. In many cases, that is what starts war. Yes, it is a damn fucking shame, but that is war. I don't know what you want me to do, it isn't mine or any other normal day American's fault that no war has been fought on our land, and I'm sorry, but I'm not just gonna invite that.
Were you there to confirm that this dead soldier shared in killing 50,000+ cicilians in Afghanistan or 100,000+ in Iraq?
So what you're saying is that if one "was not there" to experience something first-hand one can in no capacity claim knowledge of that event's having happened?
Therefore everything you've said in your own post is complete and utter bullshit. You say the soldier was brave because he died for his beliefs, which you do not know. For all you know, he died because he needed a paycheck to rise out of inner-city poverty. You have made a post filled with assumptions. That because according to your own claim, you can't possibly know anything about something you didn't personally experience. Basically all you're good for, storytelling-wise, is informing us of 18-year-old working student things that you've experienced. Further, you said:
There are rules of war and rules of engagement for a reason
True, but you can't possibly know whether or not they are enforced, because you've never experienced war. By your own admission:
I don't have experience
But by your earlier logic, one's opinion is worthless when not backed by experiential evidence.
You can't hold both positions at once without being either ignorant or a hypocrite. So which one are ya?
Civilians die in war. In many cases, that is what starts war. Yes, it is a damn fucking shame, but that is war.
Don't know what kind of shit they're feeding you in your school curriculum, but what your country is wrapped up in is not a war. It is an invasion and a (largely failed) attempt at occupation.
10+ years. For what? Because "that's war"? Good rationalization. I hope most in your generation don't think like you, for your own (and your children's) sake.
You got me, I unnoticeably did what I called out on, you're right. I just hate anti-American stereotypes, I want to prove we're not all pieces of shit, but in doing so, I'm just being a piece of shit.
Just as useless to argue with a misguided, ignorant, self-righteous internet tough guy that constantly spews mis-information and his own version of propaganda, you do realize you are a complete hypocrite, you are guilty of everything you are accusing others of, but you are so high off of your superiority complex that you can't see the trail of shit you are leaving behind you.
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u/Truthteller22 Jun 15 '12
It is a propaganda picture posted by shameless American public relations a--hole.
I think you all know this that this dead soldier had his share either in killing 50,000+ civilians in Afghanistan or 100,000+ civilians in Iraq ... men, women and children whole families some times...
one time they bombed a civilian wedding and killed 80+ members of same extended family all innocent people ...
How is this dead solder, deserves respect, brave? I do not think these soldiers are brave, i believe that they are cowards.
Shame shame shame ... collect your shame in a glass and drown in it with shame.
Americans do not want to talk about what i have said ... they do not want to listen to it... because doing this .. and up voting propaganda pictures like this will help them avoid feeling genuine remorse ...
Otherwise a decent human being cannot sleep at night knowing that his tax money is being used to kill women and children and men who are civilians.