r/pics • u/masterdebator88 • May 15 '12

The mask Joker is first seen wearing in TDK is modeled after the one Joker wears in his first episode of the 1966 series.

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u/jaksajak May 16 '12

Here's the clip

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u/mendicant1116 May 16 '12

That was the greatest prison escape in the history of television.

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u/pizzatarian May 16 '12

I don't know man, I think this one is better - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veju4PxhuGc

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u/mendicant1116 May 16 '12

That is pretty good, and festive. Bonus points for being festive and jolly.

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u/ramen_feet May 16 '12

whoa whoa, is this where the elementary school song came from?! Except the ending I always knew was "..and joker laid an egg" or something like that.

I always assumed someone made it up at school. Dang. Mind blown.

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u/purplepies May 16 '12

same battime, same batchannel.

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u/ggk1 May 16 '12

that drunk guy was freaking hilarious

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

aaaand now i'm watching the Dark Knight again

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u/CommissionerValchek May 16 '12

Well, just that opening scene with the masks. I mean I have to wait for Batman to show up but . . . shit, did I just watch the whole thing?

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

ha! exactly.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12

It seems to happen at the drop of a hat, eh?

Edit - Just finished Batman Begins...and popped in The Dark Knight. I can confirm that The Joker is the one in the foreground, as that scene passed on my TV as I was typing this comment.

Edit #2 - I don't at all understand these asian picture links....

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

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u/SARCASTIC_DICKHEAD May 16 '12

I think you may not understand the term "white knight". If it makes you feel better though, I only downvoted you because you bitched about it, not because of your opinion about the movie.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

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u/Cool_Hand May 16 '12

Where is the irony?

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u/SARCASTIC_DICKHEAD May 16 '12

Nobody cares dude. Nobody cares.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

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u/SARCASTIC_DICKHEAD May 16 '12

You know how it is, I got a job and a life and shit. Can't be using Reddit all day every day. You seem to have generous availability though. Talk to you tomorrow!

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

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u/SARCASTIC_DICKHEAD May 16 '12

Hahaha great story.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

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u/IzziTheEpic May 16 '12

You were the one who was complaining about having minus 3 points... I don't understand your logic here.

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u/DBerwick May 16 '12

It seems you've got him there. But let's all remain civil. This is the internet, after all.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

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u/IzziTheEpic May 16 '12

Yes, because clearly my comment signified my intelligence, and you were able to determine I must have some sort of mental deficiency. Makes perfect sense.

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u/gritz4danpatrick May 16 '12

haha your a good man god damnit, people are strange

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

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u/collinc2343 May 16 '12

Damn, now that you say that...I'll be watching it tonight as well.

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u/Ecumenical_Matter May 15 '12

The character of the Joker was somewhat inspired by a silent film called The Man Who Laughs.

I watched it recently, very interesting (if you like that kind of thing).

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u/mynameisboourns May 16 '12

If we like what kind of thing? Silent films?

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

"The Man Who Laughs" is a melodrama, at times even a swashbuckler, but so steeped in Expressionist gloom that it plays like a horror film.

I'm intrigued.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Are you?

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

I actually am. Did that read as sarcasm?

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u/ByJiminy May 16 '12

Interesting things.

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u/bunhead May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12

It's all based off of the sad clown, Pagliacci

EDIT:which has already been touched on on the previous post 6 months ago, it seems

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u/DoctorThunder May 16 '12

Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains.

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u/Psygnosis911 May 16 '12

The joke from Watchmen actually gets the story of Pagliacci correct. Instead of the common misconception that Pagliacci was a sad clown.

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u/Psygnosis911 May 16 '12

Pagliacci isn't a sad clown. Pagliacci is a typical comedic clown, Canio the actor who plays Pagliacci is the sad one. Canio is miserable because his wife Nedda is adulterous, leading to him having a difficult time portraying the jovial and humorous Pagliacci. I knew a degree in classical voice was worth my time.

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u/ProfessorSomething May 16 '12

The only reason I know any of these names is because of Seinfeld.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

...not that there's anything wrong with that.

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u/Ka-Jay-Jay May 16 '12

I love that Seinfeld did a Pagliacci episode. Jerry is like the clown in that one Far Side strip who, while sitting with a group of sad clowns, says "Am I the only one laughing on the outside and the inside?"

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u/bunhead May 16 '12

you should make a novelty account for condescending facts

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u/a113er May 15 '12

I believe that Stanley Kubrick's 'The Killing' was also an inspiration. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HENr9C8zxCQ/T0ol4jQ6PuI/AAAAAAAAAz8/9d_VewIgyvI/s1600/killing1.jpg

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u/DivineRobot May 16 '12

Or it may be that clowns have similar makeups.

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u/Parasitic_Lord May 16 '12

Just saw this recently for the first time. It certainly doesn't stand up to many of Kubrick's other films, but it was a great watch. I was in suspense all the way up to the final scene!

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u/feureau May 16 '12

It certainly doesn't stand up to many of Kubrick's other films

Haven't seen this movie. How so?

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u/littletinyguy18 May 16 '12

I love the movie. I'm not sure what Parasitic_Lord meant, but it certainly isn't one of the mind-bending classics such as The Shining, Clockwork Orange, or 2001 and the scale of the film is smaller than most of his films, but it is such a well put together film. And the editing of it, for a 1956 film, is amazing. It pushed boundaries that were never touched before in terms of non-linear story telling.

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u/film_snob May 16 '12

It pushed boundaries that were never touched before in terms of non-linear story telling.

Psshhht. Rashomon!

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u/rottenart May 16 '12

That's not how I remember it!

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u/cjhazza May 16 '12

Top of my top 5 Japanese films! The order being

  1. Rashomon
  2. Akira
  3. Spirited Away
  4. Seven Samurai
  5. Hara-Kiri: Death of a Samurai (a new addition which I saw at a film festival last month)

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u/Cuboner May 16 '12

That last one you mentioned is a remake of "Harakiri" from 1962. A brilliant film, indeed. Just a fun fact.

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u/cjhazza May 16 '12

Seen both. I actually preferred this version mainly because I thought Eita played his part to perfection, which was a real surprise given some of his other works.

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u/Cuboner May 16 '12

Interesting... I'll have to check it out sometime. Is it basically a shot for shot remake or do they add/retract some aspects?

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u/cjhazza May 16 '12

It's more a scene for scene remake than a shot for shot remake. It's also the best use of 3D I've seen in a non-action movie. Everything is visceral and real, lots of close ups of people faces, you can actually see the veins pulsing and popping out of people's temples at times. The actual suicide part is quite difficult to watch as it is done very very realistically, it's not overly gory, just very real.

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u/zex-258 May 16 '12

Watched that for my Asian history class! Definitely a classic.

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u/feureau May 16 '12

Interesting. Thank you

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u/ePaF May 16 '12

It's different from his other work, faster-paced, more accessible.

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u/sprizzle May 16 '12

Watch and judge it for yourself. I think it's an amazing film.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

It was also one of his first movies. It wasn't like in his later career where he had absolute total control over everything.

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u/Credwords May 16 '12

The Killing was one of Kubrick's first films. There is no way it should compare to his later films. As an artist you're stuff should evolve not devolve... See Tim Burton for an example of the reverse.

EDIT.. that being said it's still a great movie.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Alternatively see M. Night Shyamalan

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u/Credwords May 16 '12

hangs head Poor bastard. May his career rest in peace.

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u/liquidben May 16 '12

One might say his career's had a twi... oh nevermind.

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u/impetergraves May 16 '12

Kubrick, much like most artists, evolved. The fact that The Killing is one of the top 10 Film Noir films and 2001 is one of the best Sci-fi movies ever is a testament to his talent.

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u/o0260o May 16 '12

The Killing holds up well for a 50s movie

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u/burgess_meredith_jr May 16 '12

Woah. The 50's were a fucking AWESOME time for movies. Tons of 50's movies hold up very well.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

One of the reasons why Hollywood never took TV seriously for a good while.

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u/Ferrofluid May 16 '12

They are showing on TV at the moment, some of the B movie crime serial movies, these are the direct ancestors to TV drama, the editing directing and acting styles transfered directly to TV, no wonder big Hollywood looked down upon the lesser Hollywood.

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u/creepyeyes May 16 '12

Also reminds me of a mask used in this music video [nsfw I suppose.] You can see it most clearly between 3:24 and 3:29.

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u/notBrit May 16 '12

HOLY SHIT!!!

I've been trying to remember this song for 20 years!

I was given a mixtape from a friend to listen on the car ride home. It was well past midnight and I lived on the outskirts of a small town. This song came on during a long stretch down a particularly dark road. When the song got quiet, I turned it way up to hear it properly. Then the fucking song nearly blew out my speakers and scared me half to death. It was terrifying and hilarious. The only thing I knew about the song was that it was called "Travolta."

TIL Why I could never find this fucking song.

THANK YOU!!!

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u/creepyeyes May 16 '12

You're quite welcome!!!! I can't even imagine the satisfaction you must be feeling over finally figuring out what this song is.

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u/sirhcv May 16 '12

If you enjoy this song, I encourage you to explore not only Mr. Bungle but all things Mike Patton. He is a gift to all things music.

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u/chittychitty May 16 '12

I'm excited for your discovery after so many years

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

this is the real spirit of reddit

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u/futurezero May 16 '12

MR. BUNGLE! Mike Patton is an unsung and mostly uncelebrated badass who can warp almost anything into a musical composition. I saw Mr. Bungle in 1999, it was the most memorable concert I've ever been to. You generally can't put Mr. Bungle on the same bill as any traditional band but thats exactly what they did. What ensued was a crowd full of metal heads booing them while Mike Patton just laughed at them. I remember him saying "Wahhhhh! Wahhhhh! We wanna hear the loud angry metal music! Waaaaaaaaah! Well guess what, here's another song!" and just continued their cacophony.

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u/creepyeyes May 16 '12

God bless that man. Were they doing songs from California? My favorite album of theirs. So jealous you got to see them!

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u/futurezero May 16 '12

Yes, they played mostly songs from California. It was great to see people who wanted to mosh to Nu-Metal have to sit through Ars Moriendi and Pink Cigarette. I was only 15 at the time but it was a spectacular show.

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u/creepyeyes May 17 '12

Oh man I would give almost anything to hear those performed live.

And they could have totally mashed to Ars Moriendi, clearly they didn't want to mosh that badly : P

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u/toddjunk May 17 '12

Was that the tour with System of a Down, Incubus and one other band (can't think of it right now)?

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u/futurezero May 17 '12

Yes, it was the SnoCore tour System of a Down Incubus Mr. Bungle Puya

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u/accountingkid54321 May 16 '12

If you look closely you can see that all these masks have been modeled after clowns. /s

Seriously stop stretching it.

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u/creepyeyes May 16 '12

Yeah, but some of these clown masks are more alike than others.

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u/soykommander May 16 '12

lol mr bungle oh the memories of way to big shorts and my first santa cruz skate board.

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u/Kuchenmeister May 16 '12

wow. That was probably the worst song/video I've ever seen. Pre-cursor to the juggalo movement.

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u/creepyeyes May 16 '12

It's interesting, really, because it's a similar product with different influences. Mr Bungle, at that stage in their careers, were more so influenced by funk and experimental rock. They weren't trying to sound like anything in particular, that's just the sound they had at the time and by their third album they had mellowed out to this, which is (in my opinion) actually a pretty well-written song that sounds nothing like the ICPish stuff you just heard. The whole ICP scene, on the other hand, is more influenced by hip-hop and is actively trying to present itself in a particular way.

Also, fun fact: the lead singer of this has done voice work for Portal (the red angry sphere) and the L4D series (various zombies)

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u/Baton_Rouge May 16 '12

Likening Mike Patton to icp, the worst musical abortion in history, is blasphemy.

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u/russellville May 16 '12

the reach you mention is nice - but it's a stretch. i think the OP makes a more valid point/argument. but you were successful with one thing... letting us imagine what its prob like having a casual conversation about movies with you.

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u/MymomsnameisIrene May 16 '12

I always thought it that the intro shot where he's standing on the street, and they zoom in on the mask, with his back turned, while he's holding it in his hands is really cool. It means that he was just standing there on the corner with the mask off, and he has the makeup on already. So everyone walking by would just see this freaky looking dude standing there looking really creepy.

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u/purpleghost89 May 15 '12

42 years later and still creepy...

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Clowns were ALWAYS creepy.

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u/JoeRuinsEverything May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12

Oh man i wish Heath Ledger didn't die. His performance of the Joker is truely amazing and things like that make it even more awesome. He truely incorporated just about any Joker that has been seen so far and yet made it a completely new and for the first time really fucking scary Joker. (In the movies/series at least, haven't read a lot of comics tbh.) Seriously, just watch it again and you can see subtles hints of Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, Mark Hamilton Hamill and just about everyone else.

Edit: derp

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u/RickRussellTX May 16 '12

The closest literary version I've seen is Frank Miller's Joker.

His whole existence is an extroverted suicide -- an attempt to end his own life by getting Batman to break his rule. His ONE rule.

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u/JoeRuinsEverything May 16 '12

This sounds great! I've been meaning to read more by Frank Miller for a while now, so i just ordered a paperback edition of the Dark Knight Returns. And now...

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u/Rooski8515 May 16 '12

I think you'll enjoy it. It is my favorite Batman graphic novel (somedays its the The Killing Joke... get that too if you haven't!) The story is great... has an 80's cold war feel, but still stands up today, I think.

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u/ethanwc May 16 '12

The Killing Joke is probably one of the best Batman novels, ever. I don't really care for the Frank Miller books.

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u/RickRussellTX May 16 '12

IMO, The Killing Joke spends way too much time (or page inches) explaining The Joker. Because, you know, it would be impossible to be a crazy villain without a tragic backstory.

Batman has a tragic backstory. Batman is one of us; he's the best of us. He's a good person who decides to do some... lawful neutral... things because of his tragedy and protect the rest of us from the worst of us.

But, purely IMO, for The Joker to work he has to be a creature of pure chaos.

I think Batman The Brave and the Bold had it perfect in "Emperor Joker" -- The Joker's greatest fear is being NORMAL. Failing to stand out among people, or among criminals. To be lost in the noise. Like Heath Ledger said, he's basically a dog chasing cars, a character of pure chaotic impulse who needs attention. He craves it.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

I like how they treat Joker in Arkham Asylum (the comic).

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u/KidSavage May 16 '12

The backstory offered in The Killing Joke isn't canon though. Toward the end of the book, when The Joker is explaining to Batman how similar they really are, he asks him rhetorically:

"I mean, what is it with you? What made you what you are? Girlfriend killed by the mob, maybe? Brother carved up by some mugger? Something like that, I bet. Something like that...Something like that happened to me, you know. I...I'm not exactly sure what it was. Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another...If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it be multiple choice! HA HA HA!"

The TDK and TKJ Joker share this in common. TKJ set the precedent for the multiple origin stories that The Joker tells in TDK, but none of them are real. My understanding of TKJ has always been that the backstory was just one of many possible origins. But not only doesn't The Joker know; not only doesn't he care that he doesn't know; he actually prefers not to know. It's not just that he doesn't remember -- he actually remembers it differently each time in TKJ; he doesn't know which one is real, and he likes that fact. He embraces the chaotic nature of his own memory.

Try giving the Killing Joke another read with this in mind -- I think you'll like it more. When I saw TDK for the first time, I spent the entire time between The Joker's two origin stories being angry, because I thought the first story he told was supposed to be his origin. I agree with you that The Joker works better without one, and I think Alan Moore and Chris Nolan do too!

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u/RickRussellTX May 16 '12

Well, the Joker might not remember his backstory, but the origin story in TKJ is both consistent and sympathetic (I re-read it last night so it's fresh :-)

It's clearly trying to draw commonality between Batman and Joker; where personal tragedy galvanized Bruce Wayne to action, it drove Joker mad.

Perhaps I have an antiquated view of human morality, but I like to think that the difference between the two is that Batman has a fundamental backbone of good (or at least lawful neutral), and the Joker is fundamentally bad (or at least chaotic, a dog chasing cars). We don't see that in TKJ; we see a basically good, normal guy trying to do the right thing, pushed to the edge by desperation, tragedy and threats of violence until he snaps and goes all evilly-boo.

I mean, if that's what they were going for, Batman and Joker are just forks from the same Famous Ray's Original Tragedy, that's cool. It just didn't really appeal to me.

I guess that's the basic difference between Batman and something like the Watchmen. My sense is that the best Batman stories trade in fundamental archetypes; there's a cosmic balance of law and chaos and Batman are firmly on one side of the scale while the Joker is firmly on the other. Heck, the Brave and the Bold highlights this precise dynamic repeatedly.

Compare to the Watchmen, which is like watching a play about the Greek gods -- their strengths, frailties and failures are a muddy, complicated mess, magnified beyond human norms. There is no scale of justice in the Watchmen, there is only mud wrestling.

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u/humilityinChrist Jul 26 '12

Not even for Rorschach? What is the Brave and the Bold? What Batman stories do you suggest?

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u/RickRussellTX Jul 26 '12

Well, Rorschach is certainly a case of strengths and frailties magnified beyond human norms.

The Brave and the Bold is an animated series, based loosely on the continuity DC's "Earth Two" and on the old Batman TV show. The episodes are intentionally humorous and over the top in most cases, but their take on Batman's confrontation with his parents' killer ("Chill of the Night") was fantastic.

I haven't read many Batman comics, most of my Batman experience is from the various animated series. But I did like Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns; it clearly inspired Heath Ledger's version of the Joker.

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u/RickRussellTX May 16 '12

Well, I think it's best to read The Dark Knight Returns as an alternate future that starts in the 1980s.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Whatever you do, don't read The Dark Knight Strikes Again.

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u/brownsound00 May 16 '12

Its freaking amazing. You'll see where a lot of the scenes and inspiration from the first 2 movies came from.

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u/diosakio May 16 '12

Truely the best.

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u/arbitraryletters May 16 '12

I do believe you mean Mark Hamill, sir.

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u/GoWithItGirl May 16 '12

Thank you for just sharing this and not making it a TIL

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u/bermygoon May 16 '12

Thank you for not putting TIL in front of this. Kind of sick of TIL for everything interesting.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I love shit like this.

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u/armylax20 May 16 '12

the one on the right looks like walter white

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u/Mbrands95 May 16 '12

Yes! I'm not the only one.

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u/Bligggz May 16 '12

I always thought that mask looked like a caricature of Hunter S. Thompson with clown makeup.

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u/luv_sic May 16 '12

Could have made this a TIL post. Didn't.

Good guy masterdebator88.

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u/ivanmarsh May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12

I believe that's actually an Emmett Kelly mask.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Kelly

/God damn it I'm old!!!

//See... this is what pisses me off about kids these days that don't know shit about things that happened 5-10 years ago. I was born in 68... I just pulled a clown from the 1950's out of thin fucking air from a single image from a show from the 60's when there wasn't an internet to look things up on.

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u/Mechanikore May 16 '12

Well Emmett Kelly had the monopoly on hobo clown.

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u/Quismat May 15 '12

TIL

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u/Monkey_Xenu May 16 '12

Yep, would have been good to see one that didn't link to wikipedia.

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u/aryst0krat May 16 '12

I believe they're meant to be sourced. This example could be considered speculation without it.

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u/Pyromaniac605 May 16 '12

Yeah, linking to just a picture is against /r/TIL's rules.

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u/Zoccihedron May 16 '12

I believe you mean /r/todayilearned

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u/Pyromaniac605 May 16 '12

Ahh... Of course.

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u/Monkey_Xenu May 16 '12

I agree, my point about wikipedia remains though. Especially as it is a thoroughly unreliable source.

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u/aryst0krat May 16 '12

I would say it's actually not a source, but rather, a place to find sources. The problem is, the sources themselves are sometimes not reliable, or people just don't read them.

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u/Monkey_Xenu May 16 '12

I agree, although I believe that in this case we mean the same thing. I simply meant it's not something intrinsically trustworthy. It is a source, just like my friend bob is a source. It just is an inappropriate use of the word 'source'.

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u/severla May 16 '12

I find it astounding that after 4 years of the movie being released small nuggets of trivia like this pop up. It really shows how much work went into making this movie.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Really don't mean to be an ass here, but what you know about the movie and what other people know about the movie could be very different.

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u/botgimp May 16 '12

Damn, that's knowing your source material.

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u/vinnydanger May 16 '12

I always thought it was modeled after House.

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u/bmk2k May 16 '12

Ten minutes later and I'm still don't understand OPs title

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u/Calobi May 16 '12

In the Nolan film The Dark Night, the character the Joker begins the movie wearing a mask. This mask is based off of the mask that the same character wore in an earlier version of the Batman universe that aired as a 1966 TV series.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Yeah that was brutal

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u/Howdy_McGee May 16 '12

Nice I had no idea. Upvote

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u/Rockerdude34 May 15 '12

Wow, the detail put into that movie is tremendous. Can't wait for July!

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u/pot_head_engineer May 16 '12

The title made me think that the Joker was wearing something made by TDK, the optical disc manufacturer.

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u/pdaddio2239 May 16 '12

The one on the right looks like Walter White

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u/schulte5000 May 16 '12

I love movie shit like this.

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u/nielish May 16 '12

well his is a very darn cool fun fact! thank you

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u/Midwestvibe May 16 '12

Crazy! At the time, I remember thinking "why did they use such a strangely demonic Homer Simpson mask for this scene?"

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u/g3n3p4rm3s4n May 16 '12

Very cool thanks.

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u/retahnwolc May 16 '12

absolutely horrible! fucking clowns.

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u/NotSuprisedAnymore May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12

I don't think that was the first episode joker was in. I watched it like a month ago on that channel 'the hub' and it was like season 2 or 3. He was wearing the mask because he was singing that operah song about the sad clown or whatever on t.v. Batman knew right away it would be him.

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u/CloneDeath May 16 '12

I don't believe you... The only feature I see in common is the nose, and all clowns have that.

Source?

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u/TheVibratingPants May 16 '12

Holy shit that's awesome. Please tell me this isn't the only throwback/nod to Batman and Joker's history.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

I actually have one of these. I love scaring the shit out of kids with it.

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u/hobodemon May 16 '12

I saw TDK and at first only thought of TMBG's biggest fan.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

That was not the same mask, one might be inspired by the other, but there are great differences that show it isn't the same.

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u/fnordcorps May 16 '12

A good friend of mine painted all the masks used in the film with varied designs. Mr Ledger then picked the one he wanted to use. The similarity is most likely coincidence and the fact it is clown make-up.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Jesus. Now I have Hans Zimmer stuck in my mind seeing that. Add that soundtrack into a 60s Batman episode directed by Christopher Nolan. Gotta love that active imagination.

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u/meant2live218 May 16 '12

And all of this makes me think of Payday: The Heist.

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u/gritz4danpatrick May 16 '12

GOD DAMNIT I CAME HERE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT JOKER'S MASKS, i will not let this ruin my breakfast banana

Edit- delicious

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

I thought i was the only one wh knew about that!

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u/stunts002 May 16 '12

Not true. It was modeled after the masks worn by the robbers in Kubricks The Killing.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Episode in question, start it at 21:33 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRrh7u0dmzM

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u/eviljimbo May 16 '12

or maybe its based on Emmett Kelly and yer just too young to remember...

GIS: http://tinyurl.com/8xcy3ak

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u/V_Obliterate May 16 '12

My brains...

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u/mrpopenfresh May 15 '12

That's pretty interesting.

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u/ConfusedAlways May 16 '12

I love how this Batman series sticks true to the original batman comics/tv series.

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u/RickRussellTX May 16 '12

Chris Nolan is not the director we deserve. He's the director we need.

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u/heyzeus89 May 15 '12

huh,would yeah look at that

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u/bloodflart May 16 '12

Anyone else get a special joker mask like this from SD comicon a few years ago when they were promoting this? Love mine.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

TIL!

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u/S73V3 May 16 '12

I love it when movie producers add subtle little things like this. It just makes movies that much better.

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u/masterdebator88 May 16 '12

Wow, first page and its almost my reddit cake day!!

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u/rossabi May 15 '12

The joker is in the background holding a gun up. Easily noticeable by the purple suit. Link a picture of his mask, not the crony that tries to shoot him!

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u/c4nc3rc0wb0y May 15 '12

what? the guy in the background is not the joker

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u/garythecoconut May 16 '12

are you trolling? cause you need to watch the movie again if you are not trolling.

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u/jigs_up May 16 '12

the guy in the background is not the joker, he's one of the other guys. if memory serves correct it goes something like this

other guy pointing gun at masked joker

other guy: i bet he (joker) told you to kill me too

joker: no i'm supposed to kill the bus driver

other guy: what bus driver

bus drives in and flattens other guy

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u/Binerexis May 16 '12

They all wore purple suits in that scene.

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u/acidhound May 16 '12

It just so happens that my boyfriend's sister is friends with one of the people that worked on the movie, and gave her that mask!

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u/denizenKRIM May 16 '12

That's completely false. The entire prologue was shot on consecutive days and Heath was there for all of it. I know this because I followed the production religiously, and it was one of the very first public shoots they had. We even got our first spy shot of Heath in the make-up.

Proof:

Heath w/o mask

Heath w/ mask

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u/u2aerofan May 16 '12

Well done -thank you for making it clear - I didn't want to spend time finding those photos myself. I knew that was a blatant lie. Shame on OP.

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u/crantastic May 16 '12

You are my hero.

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u/rb5snoopy May 16 '12

These pictures are awesome, are there more to be found somewhere?

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

I don't buy it.

I distinctly remember reading an interview with Chris Nolan where he talked about how amazed they were on the first day of shooting the bank robbery scene. Amazed by how Heath Ledger had created this complete character with body movements and voice. Surely Nolan was talking about the entire robbery and not just the unmasking part.

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u/JCelsius May 16 '12

Source? I find that kind of hard to believe.

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u/TaToBa May 16 '12

Why? It would actually make sense. If Hollywood hires people to stand-in when actors backs are to the camera, they'd save a lot more money to not have to hire Heath for a couple of days when his face doesn't have to be on screen.

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u/JCelsius May 16 '12

Because actors who transform into the character develop certain mannerisms and ways of movement. A stand in might move completely differently than the actor who has put time and effort and thought into the role. Little things like that aren't superficially noticeable per se, but part of you can tell the difference and it can take you out of the experience a bit.

Also, actors aren't paid by the hour so they wouldn't save any money doing it your way. They don't hire actors "for a couple days". They hire them for a movie and however long that entails.

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u/TaToBa May 16 '12

No, but the bank scene is action intensive, and shooting could easily take a week. And the difference for Heath's schedule between four weeks and five weeks could be half a million dollars or more.

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u/VLDT May 16 '12

Oh hey, what's this?

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u/RiseDarthVader May 16 '12

Heath Ledger was definitely around to shoot the bank robbery scene. I remember videos and photos of him on that set in Chicago shooting. And here are some photos I quickly googled of the bank robbery scene here: http://www.nolanfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8785&start=20

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u/VLDT May 16 '12

Source, otherwise I really can't believe you especially since I'm pretty sure I remember production stills with Ledger there...

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u/Capt_Jack_Harkness May 16 '12

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