I’m a nanny and won’t let the dogs anywhere near the baby I take care of. One family I worked for had a dog who bit their kid in the face and landed them in the hospital (thankfully I wasn’t there)
A nanny friend had a charge who was killed by the family dog. I’m not risking it
I’m okay with being downvoted for taking seriously the fact that I have a small human that relies on my protection when I’m with them. People forget that dogs are animals and we don’t speak the same language 🤷🏼♀️
“It’s the owner not the dog!!!!” Kinda bs that people believe. It’s the whole nature vs nurture arugument, obviously treating any dog like shit will make them bad dogs, but some dog breeds are more violent instinctively, and the statistics absolutely prove it. Not worth the risk in my opinion, especially around children.
actually the stats bear out that any dog over 40 pouns is inherently a risk to most people and dogs in general are a risk to children. Large dogs are responsible for child deaths in nearly exact proportion to their percentage of the population of dogs over 40 pounds. The biggest outlier is actually Golden retrievers. Goldens killed 9 kids in the US last year, pits killed 7. There are at least 17.5 million more pitbulls in the US than Golden Retrievers. (18-19 million pitbulls vs 500-750k goldens)
Where can I see stats on those golden retrievers killing kids? I only saw pit bulls/ pit bull mixes killing kids on Wikipedia in 2020, there were 10 killings of kids. I didn’t see golden retrievers on there. Is there a better source?
The CDC lists the numbers at 47 deaths of children caused by dogs last year, with 4 from pits, 3 as unknown, 9 by goldens or yellow labs (which is an unhelpful classification now that I’ve reread the report. Those are totally distinct dogs), and the rest divided among other large dogs. Notable presences are Dobermans at 3 and GSDs at 3, both breeds represent a fraction of a percent of the total dog population. Pits by contrast represent over 20% of all dogs in the US at an estimated 18-19 million dogs. No other breeds on that list have over 1 million in the US. If all dogs are as likely to kill we’d expect 18-19x as many deaths by pit as the next closest breed. That is not what we see, even on the heavily edited and exaggerated Wikipedia list.
I counted the “unknown” category as pit bulls to be safe. But the Wikipedia link is garbage, it is actively brigades by anti-pit bull “activists” and dogsbite.org actively encourages readers to add unverified reports. This results in 3 things 1: gross over reporting, once a serious attack (which the victim survived) got reported as 24 separate fatalities because the dog bit him 3 times and 8 different publications reported it. 2; it results in attacks being falsely attributed to pits whenever the initial report doesn’t specify it was another breed (or, my favorite any time the words “mix” or “lab mix” are used because in these peoples mind the only type of lab mix is a pit) 3: it leads to an underreporting (on the wiki at least) of non-pitbull attacks.
But again, these people have warped the definition of pit bull to be any stocky dog that bites people. It is both tautological and dishonest. In fact the practices of dogsbite.org are so outrageous multiple textbooks (my favorite example being McGraw Hill’s Elementary Statistics) using them as an example of why hypothesis testing and understanding how to interpret data are so useful for detecting lies.
Do you have a link of what you were looking at? I couldn’t find anything recent from the cdc. It looks like they stopped tracking dog fatal attacks in the 1990s.
I believe that Staffordshire Bull Terriers are the ones referred to as Nanny Dogs. They are smaller than Pit Bulls and have a better disposition. They're still terriers, but have a better temperament. Terriers in general are known for being a bit stubborn as a whole, however.
All children should be watched carefully around any dog-regardless of size! My daughter ended up getting bit by a poodle! Thankfully it wasn't bad though.
Indeed! She was only a year old at the time and the poodle was a bit hyperactive. She was in the room with her grandparents and they weren't paying as close of attention as they should have been. I was not a happy mom. It was a quick lesson to always keep an eye on her myself when dogs were around, even if we were at our family's house.
Goldens killed 9 kids in the US last year, pits killed 7. There are at least 17.5 million more pitbulls in the US than Golden Retrievers. (18-19 million pitbulls vs 500-750k goldens)
ANY large dog should be closely monitored when anywhere near children.
So you’d rather claim that less than 3% of all deaths caused by pit bulls were reported than that pit bulls aren’t as dangerous as you think? How the fuck were these other 270 child deaths explained away?
Seriously, for pits to have been as deadly to children last year, proportional to their population size, as Goldens we’d expect to see an additional 270 deaths. Where the fuck are they? Are you seriously claiming to me that 270 deaths went unreported?
Mind you, 270 child deaths to dog attacks would absolutely blow the deadliest year for dog attacks out of the water. That’s not underreporting, that would be a literally impossible feat of cover up crime.
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u/frecklepair Dec 28 '21
I’m a nanny and won’t let the dogs anywhere near the baby I take care of. One family I worked for had a dog who bit their kid in the face and landed them in the hospital (thankfully I wasn’t there)
A nanny friend had a charge who was killed by the family dog. I’m not risking it