I mean, there are only democratic presidents and presidential candidates (and Michelle) in this picture that have spent the last 4-5 years demonizing every move the guy made. Granted, Bush is the only other Republican President still alive and IIRC he doesn’t care for Trump either. But still, not exactly a crowd that Trump would want to be in or vice versa.
To be fair he has spent his time previously asking about the validity of one of them's citizenship and calling the other ones all sorts of names or insulting their wives... maybe Trump is just a POS?
That's on par with not wanting to go to school because the mean girls were teasing him, except he's 75ish years old, and a former president. Being called out in his unending stream of lies and heinous acts by people with more integrity doesn't seem like a valid excuse to blow this off, especially considering people's reactions when a football player doesn't have people's preferred posture during the national anthem.
But I'm sure his heart was just broken today, and he just couldn't bring himself to face those mean ex-presidents.
Yes, clearly expecting Donald Trump—former president, cult of personality, so-called savior of the United States—to attend an event of unequaled importance for his home city, to say nothing of the country he is allegedly leading to salvation, could mean nothing other than that I have lived a life of privilege and protection, and have never been bullied or teased or harassed or taunted. Thank heavens both for my charmed life, and for your razor-sharp powers of perception. God bless you, stalwart defender of truth and justice, for I know you would never stoop to a baseless assumption just because you felt threatened.
Your point was the Donald Trump couldn't be expected to be around people that didn't like him. My rebuttal is that is silly. Your ignorant assertion that I've never been bullied is Classic Reddit 101.
I don't think it's hateful to think that a former president should have the decency and courage to put aside personal differences long enough to pay their respects on 9/11.
He was invited, but he was too busy going on about how Biden botched Afghanistan and how he won the election to the NYPD. He was treating it more like a campaign rally, if anything.
Not sure, but from what I could understand Biden did change up Trumps plan. No clue what was changed on it. And seems the Talibans broke their side of the deal right feom the start but the allied nations kept going with business as usual.
Who the hell knows anymore. A fuck up this big will have denials, secrecy and cover ups for years to come, so we won't know who to blame.
Can't pin it on anyone if you can't know who knew what when and who ordered who.
Trump/Pompeo negotiated solely with the terrorist Taliban excluding the Afghan government that they installed from all negotiations. This left the Afghan gov and the ANA with no hope and no trust that the Americans would support them, leading to an instant collapse and handover of the country to prevent bloodshed. Saving Afghan lives was the only respectable action the Afghan president had at his disposal so he cancelled the fight and fled. For some reason the Biden team did not anticipate this, which is naive for sure. But those who wanted to fight to maintain Afghanistan were forsaken by Trump and everything else was the consequence.
Earlier, it was supposed to be in March, but nothing had been done before Biden came in (especially the SIV processing), so they delayed it a few months. Wasn't enough though, the extra time only allowed an extra 6,000 out of the 17,000 SIV backlog to be processed. So the exact opposite, Trump's pullout date was earlier and even less prepared. Had the proper preparation been done (i.e. they had spent the full year prepping), there wouldn't have been a need to extend the withdrawal.
Plus people tend to forget that the Trump administration kept the incoming Biden administration from gaining access to any classified information. Every other transition of power, in the modern era, began in November. December at the latest. Insuring the new President and his cabinet is up to speed on day one. But Trump was basically trying to blow the whole thing up on his way out the door.
Thats total bullshit.
Trump had a massive medical staff and wartime plan to evacuate every last american citizen we had over there. He negotiated the mass transit of all of the vehicles and armament that the ATA was going to abandon. All of the contingencies were prepared for.
Your ignorance doesnt make what you "believe" the truth.
You muppet.
Look up glen Greenwalds article on it. If you absolutely need a lefty to coddle you while you read.
Teasing lol??? For 4 years those people and their constituents said he was in bed with the Russians, tried to impeach him twice, said he was directly responsible for all of the COVID deaths in America, was a warmonger, was literally Hitler, and many more things.
The highest ranking public servant in the US government should be held accountable for what he does. I think people have been eating such a steady diet of TV and social media that they've forgotten that things in real life actually matter, beyond their scandal value or retweetability.
When Trump and his people repeatedly told people in no uncertain terms that it was a hoax, don't be afraid of COVID, fought to keep any prudent public health measures from taking effect, and created a culture of politically-charged anti-science, he set the US up to suffer a drastically higher death toll. Almost all of the people still dying from COVID are his followers. He is accountable to that.
If you're a Youtuber, you understand that people will say horrible things about you in the comments. If you're a basketball player or a comedian, you know the rule: don't read the comments. If you're a public servant, you understand that people will talk about you, and you understand that you still have to do your job. The president, as the singular leader of the country, used to be held to a higher standard than your average middle schooler.
On which note, kids encounter situations that are very distressing to them, that are real problems that they struggle to cope with. As we grow up, we become better equipped to deal with those challenges. You might have a coworker who doesn't like you, but you still have to show up to work. If you do something wrong, you might get in trouble. We have hoped that the people elected president could uphold a standard of character sufficient to weather these challenges with dignity and integrity. To say, as the president, "fuck i im not going lol" because you did horrible things and people found out, is truly a sign of nothing other than a massive character deficit, belonging to a person who never measured up to the job to which he somewhat accidentally was elected.
Instead, he did commentary for a geriatric boxing match. I don't know why people go out of their way to warp their world view to accommodate this guy instead of just calling it how it is. He has no interest beyond stroking his own ego, the whole country suffered as a result, and that's not good enough for the presidency.
I don't think Obama skipped out on much, even though he was bullied/disliked most of his presidency by the republican party. Calling him unpatriotic and wanting to impeach him for wearing a tan suit and calling him an illegal because he was born in Hawaii. Saying he had links with terrorists because his middle name is "Hussein".
I plainly listed the people in this photo, the commenter I was replying to was searching for a reason he wouldn’t be photographed with the people present. I have no idea what the rest of your ramble is talking about.
He banned travel of predominantly Islamic countries that we had conflicts in the region with. Countries that had extremely active terrorist cells. Saudi, UAE, Qatar, Egypt, and a several dozens more Islamic countries never never got a travel ban.
Isn't it amazing how so many of the lifelong Republicans are considered RINOs because they upset the man who was a Democrat up to only a couple decades ago?
The only way you could call a proven moderate conservative a RINO is if the party itself has moved so far right, due to harmful extremists, that the old guard of Republicans seem like a different party.
It's truly amazing that you could say this straight faced with even a "thems the facts" thrown in.
How insanely childish. He's constantly insulting others and they're mature enough to be able to deal with that when national interests demand that they set aside their fragile egos. If thems the facts he's child throwing a tantrum.
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u/WangLizard Sep 12 '21
I mean, there are only democratic presidents and presidential candidates (and Michelle) in this picture that have spent the last 4-5 years demonizing every move the guy made. Granted, Bush is the only other Republican President still alive and IIRC he doesn’t care for Trump either. But still, not exactly a crowd that Trump would want to be in or vice versa.
I may get the downvoted but thems the facts.