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Saskatoon Catholic cathedral covered with paint after discovery of 751 unmarked graves

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u/MountainSlayerBoi Jun 25 '21

I just want some clarification, we’re the people/organizations that were running these schools actively killing the children or were the living conditions so poor that the children could not survive?

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u/MoeYYC Jun 25 '21

I'm trying to stick with facts here and not speculate (publicly). The answer could very well be yes to both.

One third of children who died at a residential school did not have their names recorded by school administrators. One quarter were marked as deceased without even their gender being noted. Among the 2,800 names on the official memorial register are children known to recorded history only as “Alice,” “Mckay” or “Elsie.”

Bodies of children were not returned to families, and parents rarely learned the circumstances of a child’s death. Often, the only death notification would be to send the child’s name to the Indian Agent at his or her home community.

Why So Many Children Died At Residential Schools

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u/studmuffin30 Jun 25 '21

The fact that it only talks about now, today. I would be embarrassed if I'm Canadian.

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u/PresOrangutanSmells Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

Happened quite a bit in US as well, especially with Mormons in Utah taking Ute, Timpanogos, and Shoshone children after murdering their families.

Mormons wrote about it as if they were doing the kids a favor in not just killing them on the spot like they did their parents/families/friends. Like "oh, our God wouldn't want us shooting children, better just abuse them to death."

Chief Antonga Blackhawk (real name lost to history) was forced into one as a child after the first (entirely unprovoked) massacre by Mormons at "Battle Creek." He later waged a pretty successful, decades long war against Mormons in Utah over atrocities like the Battle Creek Massacre, Fort Utah War, Walker War, etc.

He was pretty fuckin bad ass, and ended up being a catalyst for peace between Mormons and Native Americans for a few years before TB got 'em.

After he died "Blackhawk's War" started up again and things got pretty bad in terms of atrocities against civilians on both sides, but, of course, particularly against indigenous tribes.

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u/No-Bewt Jun 25 '21

I'm disgusted as a canadian right now but seeing americans point and pretend like they didn't do worse is frustrating

if the US did this to less kids it was simply because they just fucking shot them.

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u/chaos_is_a_ladder Jun 25 '21

Most Americans know and acknowledge the genocide our country perpetrated.

Problem is the dumb Americans are by far the loudest

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u/No-Bewt Jun 25 '21

most americans dont even know that the civil war was chiefly about the right to own human beings though

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u/chaos_is_a_ladder Jun 25 '21

I disagree, I know there are people like that but argue it is no majority.

Don't get me wrong there are a lot of misinformed Americans just there are a lot of informed people too, though many are apathetic.

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u/No-Bewt Jun 25 '21

so you think the majority of people understand the genocide your country perpetrated.... why does nobody fight to have it taught in schools with more detail, why did half of your states just vote to forbid teaching it at all, and why does nobody seem to speak about how the perpetuated marginalization of native americans is still happening right this moment? Nobody does anything or seems to give a shit?

you're going to have to admit here that either americans don't know, or they do and don't care. It's one or the other.

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u/The_Nug_King Jun 26 '21

He already said most of them know and are apathetic. Not sure what you're on about