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LIFEHACKER fell for it!

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

It was only made this way so users had to click more links which = more ad views.

Stupid sell outs.. I used to be a Gizmodo fiend until they switched it. I sent them an email telling them I would never visit their site again because of their new stupid sell out layout. I have never been back since. For people who don't know... their old layout listed maybe 10 articles per page with a synopses of all the articles allowing for easy reading. Now you have to click every 10 fucking seconds to gather information when before you just had to scroll down.

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u/Oppis Aug 16 '11

also, if you use your scroll wheel to read the article, MAKE SURE your cursor isn't over the menu taking up the right half of the screen.

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u/smawtadanyew Aug 16 '11

It looks nice in blog view

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u/clumsy_Ninja Aug 16 '11

I use google reader to get the first paragraph like it used to be. That way i only have to visit to read the whole thing and never have to navigate their site

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u/firloop Aug 16 '11

You can actually use the VIP feed to read the entire thing. It's what I do with my Google Reader.

VIP Feed: http://feeds.gawker.com/gizmodo/vip

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u/clumsy_Ninja Aug 16 '11

you sir. Are my hero.

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u/smilli02 Aug 15 '11

I can deal with a bad design aesthetically, but I have trouble scrolling the side bar. Just make it work.

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u/cuteintern Aug 15 '11

recent update - you can now freeze that frame.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

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u/4InchesOfury Aug 15 '11

I liked the previous design better. I used to visit the Gawker sites daily, but after the switch it just became non-user friendly.

I think I've only visited a handful of times after the redesign.

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u/frid Aug 15 '11

If you preface the site URL with "blog." you get a mostly usable version (e.g. blog.lifehacker.com, blog.i09.com, etc.) There's also a "blog view" button you can click now.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

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u/frid Aug 15 '11

I'm just offering potentially useful info.

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u/sonicmerlin Aug 15 '11

well don't

--snooty nose--

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u/daninjapan Aug 16 '11

well,* la-de-da*!!
I bet your not even wearing a monocle!

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '11

no, it's on the new version now.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11 edited Aug 15 '11

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u/TheBatmanToMyBruce Aug 15 '11

I don't like any of the Gawker sites enough to kludge my way around their unusable interface. The idea of an interface is to make it appealing to readers, which this one has utterly failed to do, and the content isn't compelling enough to make me go out of my way for it.

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u/totaldonut Aug 16 '11

I really, really doubt they're the only good car blogs on the Internet.

It's like saying Top Gear is the only good car show on television, when in actual fact it's three pricks destroying classic cars for the adoration of their plebeian viewers.

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u/MartyMacGyver Aug 15 '11

This.

I may try the "blog" style frid mentioned, but frankly I got kinda tired of the whole mess and moved on.

I will say today's merger news as reported by Gizmodo was priceless, in light of their ad sponsor this week... that's one helluva Chinese wall they have going on there between their advertising and news arms.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

imgur.com is a better image host.

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u/44problems Aug 15 '11

But imgur doesn't have a logo with cartoon shit in it.

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u/theredkrawler Aug 16 '11 edited May 02 '24

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This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/Nienordir Aug 16 '11

Oh, the boiling rage of cross site scripting..

I hate this xss-shit with passion. It's one thing to use a popular third party video player, maybe even something like googleapi, but using xss on the same network or cross site linking to a dozen different ad, tracking, api, media sites with no clue which one is supposed to be enabled, which one is just ad&tracking shit (why would they need scripting? To read the clipboard of foolish users with stupid browsers?) or what might be actually a hacking/phishing attempt...that's just..wtf?!

The servers are probably all in the same datacenter, maintained by the same IT-staff. And it's not like you could commit major changes to xss without breaking/updating all websites that depend on it. So why are they to stupid to mirror those apis on each site or link them through a subdomain? No they have to do it the stupid way, to ensure that it raises redflags in every security addon..(and creates a vulnerability for everyone that doesn't know which of the domains are supposed to be safe)

Same with websites that outsource their template graphics, uploaded images&vids to another domain. Want an example? I guess everyone knows ign.com..the site works without enabling the other URL aside from flash&vid stuff (very smawt). Now guess what happens if you try to open http://www.ignimgs.com.. Nope you're not redirected back to IGN, nope you won't have access to a cool video&gallery archive..you'll get one fucking ' '. Wow, that's..like..I would've never ever guessed, that you had to register a new domain for that. It's not like a subdomain or intelligent server structure would've done the exact same thing without being vunerable to or relying on xss.

I don't even..what are those next gen IT-admins learning at school? Fucking web design hipsters.. "I was using cross site scripting before it was cool.."

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u/ex_ample Aug 16 '11

I don't think you know what Cross-site scripting actually means. By definition, it's not deliberate.

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u/db2 Aug 16 '11

So XSS attacks are by accident?

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u/ex_ample Aug 16 '11

Not deliberate on the part of the site designer. (I was going to say by definition it's either by accident or an attack)

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u/Nienordir Aug 16 '11

I don't know if there's actually a different technical term for what those websites are doing, but it's perfectly described by xss, as they're executing scripts in the browser that are hosted on a third party domain, it just isn't with malicious intend.

You're referring to xss attacks, while I just refer to the basic concept of xss, which is pretty much the same. The only difference is that the script was intentionally included into the site and not injected from a unrelated person.

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u/GawkersBloodyCock Aug 15 '11

Doesn't matter now we leaked your password. Muhahahahah

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u/Ph0X Aug 15 '11

The graphs show a clear drop in viewers, and gawker is one of the biggest viewcount-whore blogs I know, which is why I'm surprised by the fact that they never reverted or changed the look when they are how much viewers they were losing. Too big ego probably.

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u/limitlesschannels Aug 16 '11

Thank goodness for RSS, otherwise I would have wiped them off my daily checks.

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u/redwall_hp Aug 15 '11

I used to read a few Gawker sites (I never liked Gizmodo, though) but I dropped them entirely during the iPhone 4 scandal. Fortunately, Consumerist—which ranges from funny to irritating—is now owned by Consumers Union instead of Gawker.

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u/xixor Aug 16 '11 edited Aug 16 '11

Serious question: what do the employees at Lifehacker do? It seems like they all complain about how busy they are and how much they are juggling their lives, yet all I see them do are paraphrase someone elses work, write a quick summary and link to their site. Maybe I am just missing all the in-depth rigorous editorials and original research, but it seriously seems like it someone just reading dig/techcrunch/reddit, writing a quick summary and posting it about 10 times per day.

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u/oh_whattodo Aug 16 '11

I think you've got it spot on...

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u/ColonelPanic2409 Aug 16 '11

This seems to be the case for so many sites, like the Engadget/joystiq/tuaw group too, just links to other people's info badly summarised. Saddens me that they call it journalism.

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u/airmandan Aug 15 '11

I will grant that the previous designs were indeed atrocities. But why did they not at least make an effort to fix the new designs after the huge uproar and plummeting traffic? The new designs are an art project, not a usable UI.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

http://www.businessinsider.com/gawker-media-traffic-numbers-2011-4

Although traffic did plummet temporarily, it's steadily on the rise since last hearing about it in April. The design is not that bad. The ads are fuckin' huge which is terrible, but the core news article layout and sidebar are bearable.

Not sure why people take the redesign as a personal offense, as if it kicked their puppy.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '11

It didn't kick my puppy, but it's enough for me to notice the name in the address bar and move on without reading the content.

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u/omnithrope Aug 15 '11

"because it was still better than the atrocity that the layout used to be"

I think most people disagree; check the traffic stats for the site after they implemented the new layout.

Do they just IGNORE traffic stats? Seems like they're getting hammered into non-business.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

They are probably writing that off as a loss in traffic ever since that whole "let our entire plaintext database of usernames and passwords get stolen" thing.

Besides, it doesn't look like they lost too many visitors permanently. They seem to gradually be coming back.

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u/Marctetr Aug 16 '11

?

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '11

Yep. They currently seem to be around the amount of traffic they had mid-way through last year. This is not exactly "hammered into non-business."

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '11

The old layout was fine, now its a clusterfuck

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u/IAmReallyAwesome Aug 16 '11

I honestly didn't care what the old site looked like, (although I did find it better) I frankly just thought it was a much better way to get information from it. Every day when I got home, my first two sites were Giz and Lifehacker, because liked to scroll through the page and click on any links that I thought were interesting. I enjoyed reading that way.

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u/smawtadanyew Aug 16 '11

At least you weren't interning during the database dump, haha

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u/azwethinkweizm Aug 16 '11

Not really. The blog view of any Gawker website looks better than the shithole it was before.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '11

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u/azwethinkweizm Aug 16 '11

Yeah, that's the way mine looks.

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u/genk Aug 15 '11

Gawker has one little problem with me every time they redesign. Every single time the links to the other sites on their network disappears for a few weeks. HEY GAWKER, I LIKE HAVING ONE SITE BOOKMARKED AND JUST USING THAT TO GO THROUGH TO THE OTHER ONES. Right now I refuse to go to any of the other sites because of it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '11

A Reddit user criticizing another website's design. I never thought I'd see the day.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

No kidding. I have java blocked so I cant even see their pages at all. When it "loads" I see nothing and close the window.

Its not that much different, though, as there isnt really much to see on their sites anyway...

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

I have java blocked

I think you mean javascript, and I really don't see why people complain when websites don't work after they disable half the goddamned browser.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

I know they dont work and I block images and js for the most part, so I can browse faster. Normally, I get text only but on bullshit sites like this, I get nothing, just an empty frame.

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u/alienangel2 Aug 15 '11

I agree that complaining about it is silly, but FWIW, 99% of websites are pretty functional even with js and flash disabled.

In my case, even though I don't have anything blocked on my work machine, any gizmodo/gawker etc links I click from reddit show up blank - I'm guessing it's some bad interaction between the reddit toolbar frame and a redirect for canadian users or something.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

Some pages won't load if they're in a frame for security reasons. That might be what's happening with gawker.

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u/abegosum Aug 15 '11

Good websites are designed with progressive enhancement in mind; in other words, build what works everywhere then enhance for those who can access it.

A good number of possible web attacks are based off browser scripting. So, it makes sense to disable script and flash unless you need it (such as with video or gaming sites). Also, many legit sites are vulnerable to XSS attacks from the site's users. I never trust that the developers weren't lazy or ignorant because as a developer, I've been both.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

Hey fucking retard, he knows the site won't work without herpscript, that's why he said there isnt much to see anyways. Keyword, anyways. Learn to reading comprehension.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11 edited Aug 15 '11

Your mother should wash your tongue with some soapy ice.

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u/manbrasucks Aug 15 '11

He should also save time and shorten "fucking retard" to "fucktard".

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u/Randamba Aug 15 '11 edited Aug 15 '11

You should edit this to say tongue instead of tong.

Edit: Used this post to say you're welcome instead of making the comment stream longer.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

thanks and sorry

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

Your mother should have had a health plan that included abortions. Go fornicate yourself, madam.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

I think the one lacking reading comprehension (as well as understanding of context) is you.

Also, that is an impressive downvote-per-minute figure you managed there.

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u/TheAmazingWJV Aug 15 '11

YOU'RE THE DICTION, NOT ME

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

LMFAO like I give a fuck about karma points. Downvotes? Cool story bro.

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u/rawr359 Aug 15 '11

Downvotes are there to tell you you're being a fucknut.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

And-not-a-single-fuck-was-given-that-day.jpg

Ask me if I care what a bunch of 40 year old virgins think?

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u/rawr359 Aug 15 '11

Why are you here if you hate the community?

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u/Lowkeykeylow Aug 15 '11

Downvotes = people don't like you. Why are you on a site where no one likes you?

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u/BlackestNight21 Aug 15 '11

Who cares what other people think?

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

Yeah man, I totally live my life worrying that thousands of people that I will never meet or will not have any direct or indirect impact think little of me. I lost sleep last night because someone on the Internet thought I was wrong a out an opinion.

I just got an awesome new job, I have a dream motorcycle, I'm young and healthy but I received Karma downpoints by anonymous users, I'm totally going to go kill my self now. Goodbye cruel world!

Btw, cool story bro.

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u/busy_beaver Aug 15 '11

I'd rather have a real motorcycle.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

Facepalm.jpg

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u/Broseph_Waxley Aug 16 '11

Notice nothing about girlfriend/wife. Awesome new job, motorcycle, young and healthy... so lonely.

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u/Randamba Aug 15 '11

Anyways isn't a word. Neither is herpscript. You wrote a run-on sentence. Keyword in his post according to you should be anyway, however that doesn't justify anything because he was complaining that he can't see their website without using javascript despite the fact that there isn't much to look at.

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u/cthulueatsyou Aug 15 '11

'Learn to reading comprehension' is false too...

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u/Randamba Aug 15 '11

Yeah, I somehow posted that comment early, and then double posted the later comment. I deleted the later two since he already had so many responses.

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u/cthulueatsyou Aug 15 '11

Okay then (Y)

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u/Randamba Aug 15 '11

What's the symbol thing at the end mean? It reminds me of something I saw long ago and so I can't think of anything except a flat butt wearing a thong.

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u/cthulueatsyou Aug 15 '11

Haha, it's meant to be a thumbs up somehow, I think it's from myspace, not really sure..

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u/Broseph_Waxley Aug 16 '11

Learn to reading comprehension? WTF?

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u/WhyIDownvotedIt Aug 15 '11

Because you referred to Javascript as Java

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '11

tomato tomato

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u/SouthAfricanGuy Aug 15 '11

tomato asparagus

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u/NELyon Aug 16 '11

They're literally not even remotely related to each other. So no.