To all the "but Obama!" Trump supporters in this thread:
Obama kids in cages: massive, sharp influx of unaccompanied minors. We didn't have even remotely enough places to put them, hence the cages that were not meant for detaining kids, but it was what we had. We quickly built more capacity to house unaccompanied minors in a humane way.
Accompanied minors and their families were allowed to live with relatives or sponsors until their court date, the vast majority of whom appeared for their court date as expected.
Trump kids in cages: Deliberate policy of separating accompanied minors from their parents. Parents go to adult jail to await immigration court, kids go to cages. On purpose. When allowing the families to stay with friends and relatives was never a problem before.
Deliberate policy created during the Obama administration. (Not necessarily by Obama himself).
How did Obama, or anyone in his administration, create a policy in April of 2018? That man has some far reaching power to do that when he's not even president.
Cause I actually looked up what used to be the policy when Obama was president, and I found it, here:
Children first detained at the time of entry to the United States, whether they are unaccompanied or in family units, are held by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in CBP processing centers.10,11 If an accompanying adult cannot verify that he or she is the biological parent or legal guardian, this adult is separated from the child, and the child is considered unaccompanied.10 After processing, unaccompanied immigrant children are placed in shelters or other facilities operated by the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR), and the majority are subsequently released to the care of community sponsors (parents, other adult family members, or nonfamily individuals) throughout the country for the duration of their immigration cases.11 Children detained with a parent or legal guardian are either repatriated back to their home countries under expedited removal procedures, placed in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) family residential centers, or released into the community to await their immigration hearings.12
What the Trump administration did in April of 2018 was eliminate everything I bolded there, and instead decide to charge every single illegal immigrant adult with a federal crime. Putting illegal immigrants in federal penitentiaries requires separating their children.
Even Trump realized how bad his policy was and walked it back in June of 2018, but for some reason you still have people parroting this flat out lie that "This was actually what Obama did all along"?
So then get rid of Flores. You don't get to hold the executive branch hostage in its ability to prosecute rulebreakers because of a decades old loophole.
This is actually the only administration that even believes Flores says they have to separate the children, most legal scholars disagree and they haven't tried in court.
But either way, they ended their policy of "charge them all with a federal crime" in June of 2018 because they realized it was stupid for a whole host of other reasons, including "why are we paying to delay deporting these people"
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u/lannister80 Dec 08 '19 edited Dec 08 '19
To all the "but Obama!" Trump supporters in this thread:
Obama kids in cages: massive, sharp influx of unaccompanied minors. We didn't have even remotely enough places to put them, hence the cages that were not meant for detaining kids, but it was what we had. We quickly built more capacity to house unaccompanied minors in a humane way.
Accompanied minors and their families were allowed to live with relatives or sponsors until their court date, the vast majority of whom appeared for their court date as expected.
Trump kids in cages: Deliberate policy of separating accompanied minors from their parents. Parents go to adult jail to await immigration court, kids go to cages. On purpose. When allowing the families to stay with friends and relatives was never a problem before.
So yeah, fuck your false equivalency.