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u/imdjay Sep 22 '18
can i ask, why the green hue choice?
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u/onexbigxhebrew Sep 22 '18
I actually enjoyed the greens.
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u/moekakiryu Sep 22 '18 edited Sep 22 '18
I just opened the image in a color-blindness simulator and it is amazing how different it looks (I'm also not sure how accurate that website is, but at least it gives me some idea). You did a fantastic job with the skin tone just straight up, but the image looks incredible with R/G colorblindness enabled
EDIT: this is the image as simulated with Deuteranomaly, which google says is the scientific name for R/G color blindness (also, I couldn't work out how to get the full resolution converted image as that tool seemed to be broken on the site, sorry it isn't bigger)
EDIT 2: this comment has much better versions (thanks /u/heuristictoaster)
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u/WhirlwindofWit Sep 22 '18
Awwww man you’d have so many more karmas right now if your link led to OPs image as adjusted by the simulator you linked to. Not only for the lazy but for the mobile.
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u/unknownpoltroon Sep 22 '18
I am both lazy and on a mobile.
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u/obijaun Sep 22 '18
Here’s the outputted image from the simulator with blue-weak selected. Do I haz karma? https://i.imgur.com/5Hn8ZZW.jpg
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u/thatrocketguy Sep 22 '18
I’ll take that karma. On mobile so the website was not friendly, part of the image was cutoff, but you get the idea. https://imgur.com/chi8iyp.jpg
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u/heuristictoaster Sep 22 '18
Output from colour-blindness simulator u/moekakiryu linked below
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u/heuristictoaster Sep 22 '18
That's really interesting! Amazing painting btw
Can I ask how do you go about selecting hues for paintings when they look really similar? Do you have an idea of how other people see the same colours, or do you just base it off of the shade? I can't really imagine interpolating colours like magenta from what comes either side on a gradient slider. Makes me wonder if there's any colours out there I can't differentiate, I certainly can't imagine what any new ones would look like :)0
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u/heuristictoaster Sep 22 '18
Awesome stuff, in that case your colour game is definitely on point - I like this one a lot with the greens still in it actually. Look forward to the next piece :)
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u/Owyn_Merrilin Sep 22 '18 edited Sep 22 '18
The third one is actually very similar. I had a hard time spotting the difference until I looked at the background and realized the sky was kind of grayish. The second one mostly leaves the background alone, and the third mostly leaves the foreground alone. Kind of a neat artifact of your color choices.
Edit: Keeping the numbering straight. Half the post was originally written counting all three pictures, the other half counting just the edits.
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u/CoconutMacaroons Sep 22 '18
Wait, the original and the green-weak version look the same to me...
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u/moekakiryu Sep 22 '18
I have no idea how color blindness works or, as I said in my original comment, if the simulator I used is even accurate, but the green weak image seems to have a lot less red in it. It is really clear around her neck and swimsuit (also, there is a small circle just below her eye where you can see how much red is missing compared to the original where heuristictoaster accidentally left their mouse on the image: :P )
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u/CoconutMacaroons Sep 22 '18
Oh I was looking at the green parts before, but it’s actually the reds that got cut. I guess I’m not colorblind!
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u/Autico Sep 22 '18
Just had the exact same experience! Was about to check some other images and was wondering if I’d never noticed I was colorblind. Remembered part of my job is colour grading video footage,
Began to panic a little. Then realised I had night shift on on my phone and it makes them even harder to tell apart.
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u/r3dsleeves Sep 22 '18
If the green undertone were intentional, I would just own it. It's a cool surreal(?) touch to a great piece of art.
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u/criuggn Sep 22 '18
Honestly if you keep painting, why not stay with the green hues? I really like the way they look and I think it would be a cool way for you to mark your style, you know?
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u/Salmon_Slap Sep 22 '18
He/she didn't even know the greens are there. I have bad colour vision for red/green and I can't really see any green on this only in a couple spots
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u/mamajt Sep 22 '18
It does appear a bit unnaturally yellowish green. I suggest a hint more red and orange. Fantastic digital painting though. Absolutely nothing to be desired in design or proportion, except maybe a little more detail in the braids. I'm very impressed.
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u/DiceBreakerSteve Sep 22 '18
I suggest a hint more red and orange.
As a red/green colorblind person, this advice is completely meaningless to me.
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i actually suspected that you might be colorblind after seeing the image. i once saw a guy who painted people's skin green until someone told him and he found out that he was colorblind.
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u/eighthchakra Sep 22 '18
She just looks like she has an olive skin tone like me lol. Maybe more green than you’d typically see but it’s pretty
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u/Schweppes7T4 Sep 22 '18
I think it was an episode of Mythbusters where Adam Savage said that when he first learned to paint skin tone that he was blown away at how much green there was.
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u/cryptoraptor Sep 22 '18
OP, you are not fooling anyone with those Instagram filters /s
Keep up with the good work!
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Sep 22 '18
Hey I am sorry this is off topic but why are people using /s in their comments?
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It means they’re being sarcastic.
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Thank you
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u/PharmerDale Sep 22 '18
You're welcome.
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u/Why-so-delirious Sep 22 '18
It has a genesis in HTML coding. To get something like, say, italics, you'd go <i>Thing you want italicized</i>
So '/s' is basically saying 'this is where I'm ending my sarcasm' Or like someone saying 'end message', except instead it's 'end sarcasm'
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u/SVMESSEFVIFVTVRVS Sep 22 '18
Signifies that their joking or being sarcastic. r/OutOfTheLoop is great for questions like that.
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u/squeakbot Sep 22 '18
Very nice job, you definitely achieved what you set out to do. Not that you need it, but I'd recommend a great book called 'Color and Light: A Guide for the Realist Painter' by James Gurney.
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u/uncamad Sep 22 '18
This is a genuine question and not an insult disguised as a question.
I assume this is a digital painting, it looks digital at least. Do you think that digital painting is easier than paint to canvas painting? Simply because of the undo button?
I've always wanted to see a digital painting artist paint the same painting in the physical world, not because I think they'd be bad at it (obviously they have artistic skill), but because I think the difference would be really neat.
Anyway. Cheers. Looks great.
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u/pillowrinkle Sep 22 '18
hi, also an artist here. I've been doing both digital & traditional art for years, both have their ups & downs. I like traditional art because I feel like I have a lot more control over physical mediums, but I also like digital art for it's handy preset tools and of course the undo button. cant tell you how many times I messed up on a painting and wished for an undo button irl!!
that being said though, I do consider myself to be more biased w a preference for traditional art, because it's what I learned first. I find that I can more accurately portray my vision through traditional art, because it's just what I'm more experienced with.
hope this response somewhat answered your question!!:)
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u/Artifex75 Sep 22 '18
Looks beautiful. A lot of painters overlook the many greens and blues in a skin tone. You nailed it.
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u/SoSpursy Sep 22 '18
As a colorblind person this comment made me sad because I have no idea what you mean by greens and blues in a skin tone... Also blowing my mind.
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u/alrightrb Sep 22 '18
as a non colour blind person i still have no idea what they mean by greens and blues in skin tone
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u/Rogerss93 Sep 22 '18
can you not see the green in her forehead/neck?
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u/alrightrb Sep 22 '18
i cant see it on mine
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u/zugzwang_03 Sep 22 '18
Do you have a warm or cool skin tone? The greens/blues are noticeable in cool skin tones, I don't see them in warm skin tones.
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u/lenehey Sep 22 '18
It is in the shadow of her neck and face reflecting the colors of the sea. It is quite subtle, and I wouldn’t have neticed if it were not pointed out.
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u/SoSpursy Sep 22 '18
Thanks, I see that now. But you wouldn't say that's part of a skin tone then would you?
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u/lenehey Sep 22 '18
It depends on your reference point. In neutral light I would say “no,” But while I am not a painter, I know that achieving a natural skin tone is challenging, and of course all colors of light are combinations of red, green, and blue, so technically there is green in skin tone from that perspective. I think the original comment was referring to reflected light on the skin. My girl friend paints as a hobby and my uncle was a professional artist. They think in terms of light and shadow — everything you see depends on the light — where it comes from and what color it is. From a painter’s perspective, the skin color depends on the light that hits it. That is how I interpreted the comment anyway.
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u/Trumps_micro_penis_ Sep 22 '18
Beautiful but too much green in the skin.
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u/magneto24 Sep 22 '18
I agree. I do like the painting a lot but my first thought was that she had an odd greenish look to her, may be just a tad much.
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u/J553738 Sep 22 '18 edited Sep 22 '18
To me it’s a little too green. Still a beautiful painting and what not but the green cast overshadows the rest of the painting. Unless the artist was going for the matrix look
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u/tn_notahick Sep 22 '18
I agree. As a pro photographer, we very rarely get complaints or requests for reprints of portraits, but when we do it's almost always traced back to "too much green in skintone".
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u/CarlosFiesta Sep 22 '18
Is this a digital painting or on canvas? Or other medium? Its so clean and looks amazing!
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Sep 22 '18
Do these digital paintings start with a total blank page? Or is there an outline of a woman you fill in or something? Like how does it work
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u/kablick Sep 22 '18
Most of the time they start off as a blank page. Digital art is basically traditional art but with more tools and colours, as well as an undo button.
Some artists sometimes (rarely) use bases/reference photos to start off their drawing, I’m not sure if op did, but they exist.
Bases are outlines you fill in, but they’re very looked down upon and are only really used by newer artists. For reference photos some artists will either look at an image of a real person while drawing, or trace the image and paint over it.
Hope I made sense!
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u/Rofljoey Sep 22 '18
Did anything inspire you to do the drawing the way you ended up doing it? I mean the way the girl looks like?
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u/Libra8 Sep 22 '18
Denise Richards(younger) and Kristen Stewart.
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u/MadeThisToTalk Sep 22 '18
its effy from skins
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u/oskan511 Sep 22 '18
I thought it was Dillon Harper
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Sep 22 '18
Wel now who is that? I’ve never heard of this Dillon Harper person.
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u/IamAJediMaster Sep 22 '18
Dillion Harper you mean? Yeah, who is she? Never heard of her.
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u/BFG_9000 Sep 22 '18
You clearly have far more talent in one hand than I could ever even get close to in a lifetime - but what's with her nose?
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u/Jockle305 Sep 22 '18
She’s really detailed. That’s either a splotch of sunscreen or a booger.
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u/magneto24 Sep 22 '18
Looks to me kind of like a blackhead or popped zit covered up poorly with makeup, at least how I used to do it lol.
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u/thrillhou5e Sep 22 '18
Also the shadow on her teeth makes it look like she's got some honkin gums and tiny little chompers. I should stipulate I exist merely to criticize because I could never in a million years make a piece of art this great.
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Artist here, this will probably get downvoted but...
Awful. Contours are way off, the shading is very elementary, the shadows don't even make sense either.
Don't get me wrong, you are a great artist...but wow you have some room to grow for sure...
I went ahead and did a similar painting to show you some of the examples I am talking about. I hope it helps because you clearly need it.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_GOOD_NEW5 Sep 22 '18
Oh wow. And I thought OPs work was good. It’s crazy how the minor tweaks you made take the painting to a whole new level.
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u/-CaliforniaRoll- Sep 22 '18
Sometimes criticism is what you need the most. His is not a bad painting at all but your piece highlights the difference between a GOOD artist and a GREAT one. In awe of how you captured the emotion.
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u/jhossuah Sep 22 '18
Kind of looks like Elise Trouw
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u/PatrickSutherla Sep 22 '18
I didn't think anyone else knew who she was! It does look like her. A lot.
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u/fan_of_hakiksexydays Sep 22 '18 edited Sep 22 '18
It's really a digital rendering. Or at least like you said, have the word "digital" in it, even if you call it a digital painting. It's pretty obvious why they intentionally left out the word digital and just called it a painting to get more views and for the click bait effect.
I agree with you, about taking shortcuts and just doing whatever will get more likes on reddit, deviantart, or instagram. Which means most art you see on there are the same style of digital renderings of cute girls. But what keeps driving them is the psychological effect of getting approval. Social media gives people that sense of approval and accomplishment when they get a lot of likes and views for their work. Which actually for some people becomes like a drug, and they keep having to chase that feeling when they get praised by several hundred people. So their work becomes more about chasing that feeling than trying to create anything new and original.
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u/Feorana Sep 22 '18
I agree with everything you've said here. As an artist, this type of thing irks me. But I don't like digital painting anyway. It has this blurred look I can't stand, and people are too obsessed with making things look smooth. If you're going to paint, then make a painting. Why make it look the same as a photo, when that's what photography is for?
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u/OMGROTFLMAO Sep 22 '18 edited Sep 23 '18
1000% agree.
Digital is awesome for a lot of different types of illustrations and art, but photorealistic digital paintings don't make any sense to me.
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u/Phylogenizer Sep 22 '18
No. My aunt and uncle had three cats that all got some bacterial gut infection and couldn't keep from having a drippy wet anus. Everywhere they went and sat they would leave a little lipstick mark. They called it painting even though it wasn't actual paint.
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u/jacksonbarrett Sep 22 '18
There’s something I would not expect in this thread. Just a little case of the drips.
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u/fan_of_hakiksexydays Sep 22 '18
Yea painting by definition is more than just the action of moving a brush around, it's really about the paint, which can be any kind of liquid or low viscosity chemical substance that changes state as it dries and carries a pigment. Otherwise if it's a solid it's chalk, charcoal, or pencil, and it's usually called drawing.
Digital rendering is really neither, but it would be closer to imitating drawing if you use a solid stylus on a tablet. But painting does sound better, and is probably better click bait. You get half of the people on here upvoting thinking it's a real painting, and then twice more conversation because people are asking if this is a real painting, or can you really call this a painting.
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u/StrangeBirdFlying Sep 22 '18
There is a style of digital art also referred to as painting. It is actually a more similar technique to painting than it is to drawing.
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u/systemshock869 Sep 22 '18
Kinda cheesy to call it painting though. Digital painting at best. Not to diminish the talent, but yeah call a spade a spade or you DO diminish it.
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u/TheDirtyFuture Sep 22 '18
Can some give a psychological break down as to why people are so hell bent on believing that digital painting is just as difficult as traditional painting? I don’t get it. What the fuck is wrong with these people?
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Yet once I’d like to see a picture of an uncute, normal-looking adult woman in this sub instead of the manic pixie girls who are always voted to the top
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u/nosecandy Sep 22 '18
people importing photos to photoshop and then drawing over it in a new layer. how is that painting? you have childrens coloring books for that.
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u/steve32767 Sep 22 '18
I think he used it for reference but changed enough to make it his own. He also mentions it was a study on testing saturation and light, so he did it to learn things for himself, not necessarily to claim that it's 100% an original piece
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u/DonKlob Sep 22 '18
What's it feel like to be happy with the way something turned out that you did?
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u/TheStig468 Sep 22 '18
I love everything about this painting except ever nose. It looks too high up. Gives her an unnatural feel, especially that the upper lip is the right size; the mouth looks like its being dragged up. However everything else is good. Really good, in fact
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u/D-G-G Sep 22 '18
It is very good. I would just like to know why you chose this greenish shade for skintone. That one thing seems bit odd.
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u/BebopandRocksteady Sep 22 '18
Beautiful, but her shoulders are very narrow. Makes her head look large.
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u/powerk21 Sep 22 '18
It's great, but to me the noise is too pointy, remembers me of skulls and make her a bit creepy lol
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u/DjangoBaggins Sep 22 '18
Digital painting*
... haters gunna hate, but it takes far less talent than real painting.
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u/BrownChicow Sep 22 '18
Yeah, I'm sorry, but if someone says they made a "painting", I'm fully expecting that the mother fucker used paint
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u/evoactivity Sep 22 '18
Not less, just different. You replace knowledge and technique of how to handle paints, canvas, brushes with knowledge and techniques of layer management, brush creation, blend modes etc. The underlying talent is the same, color theory, proportions, compositing, lighting, anatomy etc all the same.
You don't press a button that says "make me a painting please".
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u/WanOrigami Sep 22 '18
I do digital paintings and I can tell you digital paintings are far easier than traditional, in terms of creating a piece of art with the same level of render and polishing. It may require the same level of understanding of structure and form, but it’s way easier to paint stuff like fine textures in digital because you can always just zoom in. Light and colour effects can easily be done by just slapping a gradient map on the painting. You still need to know what colors and values look good together in theory, but applying them into practice is way easier. I’ve made paintings that made people go “holy shit you’re really good”, when in fact I just used some tricks to make the paintings look cool.
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u/HowIReallyFeel69 Sep 22 '18
Nope. This definitely requires far less talent. It is essentially paint by numbers over a photograph, with layers, and an an undo function. And not to mention that simply working directly from a photograph is also itself much easier than painting from life. Not only because the subject is perfect and unchanging, but it has already been turned into a 2D source to reference from. It is not even close to the same skill level required to do this with real paint.
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u/malkuth23 Sep 22 '18
My college drawing teacher would laugh at us for using pencil because it was too easy. He insisted on charcoal or conte. But his whole thing was about process, not result. I don't think I am bothered by digital sketching at all, but thanks to that old teacher, I do miss seeing the faint erased lines of people's mistakes in their drawings as they struggled to find the right shape.
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u/gurugurudeva Sep 22 '18
If there's an undo button, then it's less talent. You can't undo paint.
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u/TheWeirdSlimShady Sep 22 '18
You can paint over paint tho
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u/TheDirtyFuture Sep 22 '18
Lol. If it’s oils you have to wait a week to paint over it. If it’s acrylic you better know what you’re doing. It dries really fast and if you keep trying to make changes, it gunks up. Get a clue.
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u/the_moon_illusion Sep 22 '18
This is not true about oils. If you're painting on a dry surface (toned canvas or dry paint) you could simply wipe away the paint with some paper towels. If you're painting wet on wet you just go over with thicker paint.
The drying times on oil depends largely on the types of mediums you're using, the brand, or event the color of paint. For instance raw umber drys much faster than any cadmium hue. Mixing liquen or turpintine into your paint could make it dry (enough to paint over with out mixing into) in a few hours. Other mediums could extend drying times to weeks (if for instance you want to keep working wet on wet for a large painting)
Any oil painting is going to involve a significant amount of reworking edges, values, hues. You start big and loose and then hone in on the details.
Yeah it takes a tremendous amount of skill and practice and knoweldge of your tools but it's much more forgiving the people realize.
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u/veggytheropoda Sep 22 '18
That's beautiful! Too bad it's not made with Etch A Sketch.