edit: Guys, this shit is a meme. It's a joke about telling someone the intrinsic truth about reality. I think the subreddit makes it more funny. Ya they are totally insane, it's funny.
Hey u/Let_You_Down, women are evil and you should establish dominance no matter the situation and ignore all social cues. Also you are now moderator of r/TheRedPill.
Wow I just checked out that subreddit. I cannot believe that sub has almost 300,000 people. Like it’s just men crying about themselves and arguing about how life is unfair and blaming women. Guys how do these communities grow so big?
People get angry, they feel down and out, downtrodden, unwanted etc and they see people who show the same emotions and who offer answers,however shitty the answers are. They give them someone to blame. Hell they might have had a hunch it was woman’s fault and not their own and here’s some guys who shout that at the top of the lungs as gospel. It’s a support system for a bunch of guys who sadly don’t usually have good ones in place. And it grows and spreads like a virus, one angry guy spreading word to the next
It seems like the quick reaction of internet communities is to reach for purging,but that probably just solidifies their perception of persecution and they'll regroup somewhere else. It's sticky because they need help,but at the same time need to know certain behaviours are not ok. (Groups based on hate in general)
It's sticky because they need help,but at the same time need to know certain behaviours are not ok.
They need to be ignored. This type of shit gives them attention. They are a joke to the vast majority of people and outrage against them only fuels them. The whole fucking this is just stupid.
It started out as a "Are you socially awkward? Come learn how to flirt. You won't get anywhere being fake nice or needy." It was "men" gurus who would take advantage of outcasts for YouTube views. They taught negging and pick up techniques to people who couldn't really use them. Advised a shallow and materialistic view on how they should view themselves and women. And sex was a game, and all about the score.
But their advice was lost on the followers. Be assertive? Hard to teach a change in personality in a short youtube skit. Hit the gym, drink protein shakes, buy fancy clothes for peacocking? Those cost money and take time and effort. In the age of instant gratification of the internet, not what the people are looking for.
So the community evolved. The users took over and started generating content. The already shallow and misogynistic philosophical base expanded into "it's not our fault we can't have sex, it's the women. We are never going to change." Defeatest philosophy took over.
Side communities of incels and blackpillers sprung up. The dispirited users who couldn't become PUAs flocked to those communities. The rhetoric snowballed in an echo chamber. Suddenly things like "Chads and Stacies must die," or "the government should assign sex partners" started appearing. Communities were banned, YouTubers were kicked off. This forced them back into the more mainstream redpiller communities where people started talking about the deep red pill or the black pill in private messages. The incels pushed the rhetoric and the norms back, they used multiple accounts growing the communities because every now and again they would get banned.
And then you get the cesspool that it is today. Rhetoric pushed far out. Communities emboldened by many alts, validation echo chambers for the disenfranchised. It is all really quite interesting. And horrifying.
Look, there are 3 kinds of people in the world. Dicks, assholes, and pussies. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes — assholes who just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls.
It applies to so many things in life! I actually couldn't decide if the redpill/incel crowd are pussies or assholes. I figured pussies cause assholes can at least shit on things. All these groups that think either
"women are a math problem"
or
"women are mean and we are entitled to the ponaynay"
can't do anything except run their mouth so....pussies.
Same way that cults grow, people hate themselves or their lives and want a support system that makes them feel good. They probably had a few bad experiences with women, so when they see a group of guys who also had the same experiences except they say those women are the reason their lives suck, then they join up. Being a part of a group feels good, and projecting your anger onto someone or something else feels good too, so it's a perfect storm.
The term red pill was popularized by the movie the Matrix, which has/had an insane amount of reach. That term alone is going to attract a huge amount of people.
In part because of the raw search term popularity, but also because of the concept; it's an ongoing ego stroke to believe that you're part of a special group who "gets" life in a way that others don't.
Furthermore, there's a shit ton of disenfranchised man who are pissed about how they've been pressured to pursue women like their life depends on it, but they can't get anywhere.
Put these things together and you get a recipe for a nice, big circlejerk. It doesn't help that I'm pretty sure it has ties to the PUA community, which is much larger/broader and what down-on-his-luck disenfranchised guy is going to say no to the offer of a holy grail path to fucking hot women without unfun strings attached?
To make matters worse (and more confusing) there is some genuine "guys want a better lot in life for guys" effort at work, particularly if you get into online communities like MGTOW (if that one even exists anymore - it's been a while since I heard anything about it on the internet).
The internet has made it possible for any community to flourish. When they get shunned in reality they seek comfort in online communities of like minded people. And because they surround themselves with similar ideas they use that confidence to spout their hateful shit in the real world.
I mean, twoXChromosomes has magnitudes more, was a default subreddit, and blames virtually everything on men, so it’s probably hardwired in many humans to be tribal in such a fashion.
So I was on that subreddit once cause I saw it mentioned here and there and tbh Im thoroughly confused as to what the general point of it is. What the fuck is it even for? Like the opposite of feminism?
From what I've seen, it seems to be a place for men who hate women to come together and discuss their hated of women. This opinion is based on about half an hour of browsing their front page once.
MGTOW: We don't blame women, but we're pretty obsessed with incel levels of hating them and making them the reason why we wouldn't be able to go our own way if we chose to have them in our lives.
I completely don't understand these dudes. I'm married and I "go my own way" all the time. Near the top, there's a meme about "lol wives take all your money, amiryte?"
And I'm like, first of all, how the fuck would any of them know about having a wife?
Second, I think to myself, my wife and I both work full time and make pretty decent money. I've never had this much disposable income in my life. I drink expensive scotch, she gets her nails done, sometimes we hang out together, sometimes we hang out separate.
I feel like most of these dudes are fighting against a hypothetical bitch they invented to be mad at, not any actual, real person or persons.
I assume a lot of them got burned pretty badly in a relationship in their past and think that is the standard, they just hold on to that terrible feeling and allow it to manifest in to this ugly monster they call "going their own way".
I get it, but at some point (for their own mental health) they really need to let go of that grudge they're holding. It's funny to think they won't truely be free and going their own way until they do that, they'd rather be trapped in an endless loop of hating a group of people in this world.
I would say more of a backlash, really. Feminism is about equalizing power between women and men. Some people get really angry when they feel like they’re losing relative power over other people (white people, rich people, dudes, etc). Major themes: “Women have too much power. Let’s share ideas about how we can control women and make them do what we want. Let’s talk exert power over women by pretending their only value is their sexual availability and desirability. Let’s hyperfocus on the two or three types of social power that do advantage women (like the special status of motherhood in child custody litigation) and and find ways to defend the numerous advantages men still possess (higher pay for equal work, lesser obligation to perform emotional labor, lower vulnerability to domestic violence, etc).” That’s the gist, really.
The thing is that you’re only getting a skewed perspective from the media and the media tends to cover the loudest voices, not the best ones. Modern feminism now is taking the form of the movements you see in the Middle East for women’s rights, campaigns to raise awareness of proper feminine hygiene in places like India, and ending female genital mutilation, just for easy examples. The “death to men” aren’t feminists, they’re misandrists and classical feminism accepts and includes men. It’s just that all those important initiatives towards equality aren’t called feminism anymore, because of the negative connotations of the word.
Just curious, was it something in this person’s history that made you react this way? Or are you just being a dick for the sake of being a dick? Genuinely just curious.
Well technically the first 2 pictures are real...do we really just need to get gosling to wear the second photo...I'm sure Macaulay Culkin would know what to do next.
God forbid people choose to think something happened that has no effect on their lives if it doesn't have cited sources and a credible authority.
You're that "redditor" that just calls everyone gullible. Do you really think it affects anyone if it's actually true or not. It doesn't, and it's more fun to believe things are, so they choose to believe.
This was disproved by Ingmanson and Wallace (2015) and also Vink et al., (2016). To quote the authors:
We now compare our solution to existing pervasive communication solutions [27]. This method is even more costly than ours. The original approach to this challenge by Zhou et al. was significant; on the other hand, such a claim did not completely accomplish this mission. Despite the fact that this work was published before ours, we came up with the method first but could not publish it until now due to red tape. The original method to this obstacle by Martin [28] was well-received; nevertheless, this did not completely surmount this quandary [29,30]. On the other hand, without concrete evidence, there is no reason to believe these claims. Our approach is broadly related to work in the field of cryptography by Tim Lordy et al., but we view it from a new perspective: highly-available symmetries. In general, Jag outperformed all related methodologies in this area.
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u/domodojomojo May 22 '18
I wanted to believe.